Julius Jones Can Be Easily Replaced In The Draft

[philo beddoe]

Getting back to Julius Jones, to me, the guy has been a dissapointment. I think we can upgrade at that position as Jones is nothing special. If he's not traded prior to or during the draft, I'll watch with interest to see how he does under a new coaching staff. That said, I say he don't reward this guy with a new big contract. Why not get something for him now?

 

[Hostile]

Getting back to Julius Jones, to me, the guy has been a dissapointment. I think we can upgrade at that position as Jones is nothing special. If he's not traded prior to or during the draft, I'll watch with interest to see how he does under a new coaching staff. That said, I say he don't reward this guy with a new big contract. Why not get something for him now?

I'll ask you since your cowardly friend couldn't answer. Get what for him and replace him with who? Outline a plan, don't just piss and moan.

Again...if you can. You've already stated this is "easy." Impress me.

 

[DallasEast]

Seven hours ago...

Let's all face facts. Julius Jones is NOTHING SPECIAL. He can be replaced in the draft with relative ease. He will never be much more than adequate. This guy will never come close to ES or TD, he'll never be one of the greats---plus his contract is up. Time to move the guy in my opinion. One good run every 4 games or so, ain't cuttin' it. Plus he's dinged up far to often. Time to upgrade at the RB position. Dump JuJones now. Thoughts?

Now...

Getting back to Julius Jones, to me, the guy has been a dissapointment. I think we can upgrade at that position as Jones is nothing special. If he's not traded prior to or during the draft, I'll watch with interest to see how he does under a new coaching staff. That said, I say he don't reward this guy with a new big contract. Why not get something for him now?

 

[Stash]

Getting back to Julius Jones, to me, the guy has been a dissapointment. I think we can upgrade at that position as Jones is nothing special. If he's not traded prior to or during the draft, I'll watch with interest to see how he does under a new coaching staff. That said, I say he don't reward this guy with a new big contract. Why not get something for him now?

"Upgrading" is speculative. There's no way of knowing whether any replacement will be better or worse.

Define your scenario of "getting something" for him. You need to be more specific with your point.

What would the team get that's better than Jones?

 

[TDH]

For those of you asking for a "plan." The common theme with all these propositions is that we will lose julius after this year anyway and get nothing in return. Keep that in mind.

We trade julius for that 3rd rd pick. Package that 3rd with our 3rd (or our late 2nd) to move up in 2nd and take M Bush

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/michael_bush.html

We trade JJ for that 3rd. Take Kenny Irons in 3rd.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/kenny_irons.html

We trade for that 3rd. Take L Booker in later rds. MBIII becomes primary back with Booker being "3rd down" back.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/kenny_irons.html

These are just a few suggestions. There are of course risks associated with each. However, the point is that we know what JJ is and what he's not. I can understand the line of thinking that says we are so Super Bowl close that we should just take what we know we have (a pretty good overall rushing attack) and roll the dice with it, not have any major changes b/c we are so close.

I disagree with that. My opinion of JJ is that he is holding this team back by putting us in 3rd and longs b/c he doesnt hit the hole hard enough. He doesnt play with consistent intensity. (Remember the, well i cant remember who we were playing late in the year when one of their linebackers was shown punching JJ in the groin. He was pissed, and he played like a man possesed after that...fighting for every inch.) I wanna know why I cant get that same intensity on every darn play. Frankly, i think he owes us that intensity. I could go on about how he runs towards defenders and not away, cant make people miss, accepts a nice 12 yd gain when back with just a little vision or wiggle might get 30, or take it to the house. Anyone we can get in here...IMHO...will better our chances, and at least we will have something to show for JJ's time here.

 

[Hostile]

For those of you asking for a "plan." The common theme with all these propositions is that we will lose julius after this year anyway and get nothing in return. Keep that in mind.

We trade julius for that 3rd rd pick. Package that 3rd with our 3rd (or our late 2nd) to move up in 2nd and take M Bush

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/michael_bush.html

We trade JJ for that 3rd. Take Kenny Irons in 3rd.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/kenny_irons.html

We trade for that 3rd. Take L Booker in later rds. MBIII becomes primary back with Booker being "3rd down" back.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/kenny_irons.html

These are just a few suggestions. There are of course risks associated with each. However, the point is that we know what JJ is and what he's not. I can understand the line of thinking that says we are so Super Bowl close that we should just take what we know we have (a pretty good overall rushing attack) and roll the dice with it, not have any major changes b/c we are so close.

I disagree with that. My opinion of JJ is that he is holding this team back by putting us in 3rd and longs b/c he doesnt hit the hole hard enough. He doesnt play with consistent intensity. (Remember the, well i cant remember who we were playing late in the year when one of their linebackers was shown punching JJ in the groin. He was pissed, and he played like a man possesed after that...fighting for every inch.) I wanna know why I cant get that same intensity on every darn play. Frankly, i think he owes us that intensity. I could go on about how he runs towards defenders and not away, cant make people miss, accepts a nice 12 yd gain when back with just a little vision or wiggle might get 30, or take it to the house. Anyone we can get in here...IMHO...will better our chances, and at least we will have something to show for JJ's time here.

Now this kind of response I respect and pay attention to. He not only provided names, he listed realistic scenarios for doing it. I think I'll simply leave it at that.

 

[Crown Royal]

I'll ask you since your cowardly friend couldn't answer. Get what for him and replace him with who? Outline a plan, don't just piss and moan.

Again...if you can. You've already stated this is "easy." Impress me.

It's EAAAAAAASY hos.

You trade him away. Trade him now or at the draft, just let people know it can be done, and do it. If we get a third, that's gravy, because let's be honest, any RB in the third round can do what Jones does (you know, earn over 1k yards and carry a 4.1 average).

As for who to take - it's EAAAAAAAAAAAAASY. But I'm not going to say who. That's why we have scouts that can do that sort of thing.

Just take it from me on faith, it isn't hard to upgrade Jones, who did what any decent RB drafted in the mid rounds can do. Just grab one and we will get at least the same production, with a chance at more.

 

[JonJon]

get ray rice by any means necessary next year. hows that plan hos?

Oh, you mean how the Saints traded away their entire draft for Ricky Williams? Wasn't he the guy that everyone just knew was going to be the next Emmit Smith and Jim Brown combined into one Super-Human back, but then got hurt in his rookie season and remained injury-prone for the remainder of his stint with the Saints before getting sent to the Miami Dolphins where he ultimately quit and ended of being a weed-head with no desire for football and is now a bum? Sounds great to me. So in case any of you missed the plan, he it is again:

How to improve our running game:
Trade away Julius Jones, our entire stock of draft picks, Dexter Coakley, even Tony Romo and Newman, if it comes to that, to the Detroit Lions so that we can draft Adrian Peterson, because despite his durability concerns throughout college, he is sure to come to Dallas and dominate all by him self because he tore them college kids up. Or we get Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bush, or just wait for Ray Rice, thus compromising our chances of getting to the Super Bowl next season by giving away a 1000+ yard back and gambling on an unknown commodity. That there sounds like a solid plan to me.




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[Stash]

For those of you asking for a "plan." The common theme with all these propositions is that we will lose julius after this year anyway and get nothing in return. Keep that in mind.

We trade julius for that 3rd rd pick. Package that 3rd with our 3rd (or our late 2nd) to move up in 2nd and take M Bush

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/michael_bush.html

We trade JJ for that 3rd. Take Kenny Irons in 3rd.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/kenny_irons.html

We trade for that 3rd. Take L Booker in later rds. MBIII becomes primary back with Booker being "3rd down" back.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/kenny_irons.html

These are just a few suggestions. There are of course risks associated with each. However, the point is that we know what JJ is and what he's not. I can understand the line of thinking that says we are so Super Bowl close that we should just take what we know we have (a pretty good overall rushing attack) and roll the dice with it, not have any major changes b/c we are so close.

I disagree with that. My opinion of JJ is that he is holding this team back by putting us in 3rd and longs b/c he doesnt hit the hole hard enough. He doesnt play with consistent intensity. (Remember the, well i cant remember who we were playing late in the year when one of their linebackers was shown punching JJ in the groin. He was pissed, and he played like a man possesed after that...fighting for every inch.) I wanna know why I cant get that same intensity on every darn play. Frankly, i think he owes us that intensity. I could go on about how he runs towards defenders and not away, cant make people miss, accepts a nice 12 yd gain when back with just a little vision or wiggle might get 30, or take it to the house. Anyone we can get in here...IMHO...will better our chances, and at least we will have something to show for JJ's time here.

Kudos on a solid post.

Our opinions differ, but I can respect where you're coming from. You listed your choices and provided several scenarios. That's the type of reasoning I couldn't get out of "Dumb and Dumber".

 

[Crown Royal]

BTW - for everyone saying we get lost him and get nothing in return - that isn't true.

We still get another season at a 1000 + rusher, whether he is average or not. He will still produce us something. Plus, it isn't like it is out of the question that he produces higher and earns a new contract.

 

[Hostile]

It's EAAAAAAASY hos.

You trade him away. Trade him now or at the draft, just let people know it can be done, and do it. If we get a third, that's gravy, because let's be honest, any RB in the third round can do what Jones does (you know, earn over 1k yards and carry a 4.1 average).

As for who to take - it's EAAAAAAAAAAAAASY. But I'm not going to say who. That's why we have scouts that can do that sort of thing.

Just take it from me on faith, it isn't hard to upgrade Jones, who did what any decent RB drafted in the mid rounds can do. Just grab one and we will get at least the same production, with a chance at more.

I think I understand. Translation, throw some crap against the wall, see what sticks.

Am I close?

 

[joseephuss]

I think we should trade Terry Glenn. He is easily replaceable. He hasn't been in the top ten in receptions, receiving yards or receiving TDs since being a Cowboy. Heck, he has only finished in the top ten in any of those categories once in his career and that was in receptions his rookie season. We could draft a receiver to finish outside of the top ten very easily.

 

[philo beddoe]

I'll ask you since your cowardly friend couldn't answer. Get what for him and replace him with who? Outline a plan, don't just piss and moan.

Again...if you can. You've already stated this is "easy." Impress me.

Whoah nelly. Prophet is no coward, my friend. I'm afraid the planning is up to Jeff Ireland & "The Gang", not me. What I've simply said is that JuJones can be replaced through the draft. We're not talking about replacing a Hall of Famer here. He was a second round pick, we should have drafted S. Jackson or Kevin Jones that year, Jones was a leftover. He flashes potential and is a tease, but little more. I'll leave the draft planning to the professionals, which I am not. I don't think the Cowboys are at all high on Jones, where there's smoke, there's fire. I'm sure the "braintrust" has something cooking, I'm eager to see what it is. If Jones stays--fine, he's decent, but he doesn't deserve a huge contract for what he's done thus far. My OPINION is that we wouldn't miss him all that much if we draft well. Who exactly the RB would be at this point is impossible to say--too many variables.

 

[Crown Royal]

I think I understand. Translation, throw some crap against the wall, see what sticks.

Am I close?

See!? You got it!!!

We'll learn you some football yet!

 

[Stash]

Whoah nelly. Prophet is no coward, my friend. I'm afraid the planning is up to Jeff Ireland & "The Gang", not me. What I've simply said is that JuJones can be replaced through the draft. We're not talking about replacing a Hall of Famer here. He was a second round pick, we should have drafted S. Jackson or Kevin Jones that year, Jones was a leftover. He flashes potential and is a tease, but little more. I'll leave the draft planning to the professionals, which I am not. I don't think the Cowboys are at all high on Jones, where there's smoke, there's fire. I'm sure the "braintrust" has something cooking, I'm eager to see what it is. If Jones stays--fine, he's decent, but he doesn't deserve a huge contract for what he's done thus far. My OPINION is that we wouldn't miss him all that much if we draft well. Who exactly the RB would be at this point is impossible to say--too many variables.

Translation - I'm just here to complain.

 

[Crown Royal]

Whoah nelly. Prophet is no coward, my friend. I'm afraid the planning is up to Jeff Ireland & "The Gang", not me. What I've simply said is that JuJones can be replaced through the draft. We're not talking about replacing a Hall of Famer here. He was a second round pick, we should have drafted S. Jackson or Kevin Jones that year, Jones was a leftover. He flashes potential and is a tease, but little more. I'll leave the draft planning to the professionals, which I am not. I don't think the Cowboys are at all high on Jones, where there's smoke, there's fire. I'm sure the "braintrust" has something cooking, I'm eager to see what it is. If Jones stays--fine, he's decent, but he doesn't deserve a huge contract for what he's done thus far. My OPINION is that we wouldn't miss him all that much if we draft well. Who exactly the RB would be at this point is impossible to say--too many variables.

OMG I'M PSYCHIC!

 

[Hostile]

Whoah nelly. Prophet is no coward, my friend. I'm afraid the planning is up to Jeff Ireland & "The Gang", not me. What I've simply said is that JuJones can be replaced through the draft. We're not talking about replacing a Hall of Famer here. He was a second round pick, we should have drafted S. Jackson or Kevin Jones that year, Jones was a leftover. He flashes potential and is a tease, but little more. I'll leave the draft planning to the professionals, which I am not. I don't think the Cowboys are at all high on Jones, where there's smoke, there's fire. I'm sure the "braintrust" has something cooking, I'm eager to see what it is. If Jones stays--fine, he's decent, but he doesn't deserve a huge contract for what he's done thus far. My OPINION is that we wouldn't miss him all that much if we draft well. Who exactly the RB would be at this point is impossible to say--too many variables.

What a cop out. I mean a complete and total lack of testicular fortitude.

Thanks for the input. I'll print it out and line a bird cage with it.

If you have an opinion it pays to be able to back it up. The sooner you two realize that the quicker you'll get the respect you demand but haven't earned.

 

[Yeagermeister]

What a cop out. I mean a complete and total lack of testicular fortitude.

Thanks for the input. I'll print it out and line a bird cage with it.

If you have an opinion it pays to be able to back it up. The sooner you two realize that the quicker you'll get the respect you demand but haven't earned.

why subject some poor bird to that? What has it ever done to you? :laugh1:

 

[Hostile]

See!? You got it!!!

We'll learn you some football yet!

I don't know what to say. I love everybody. Whoo. Whoo. Thank you. Thank you. Whoo.

Crown Royal you are my ambassador of qwan man.

Whoo.

 

[superpunk]

When you break out Kevin Jones, you know you're lost. If anything, Detroit fans are bemoaning that they passed on Julius for Kevin Jones.

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