Julius Jones is not an Ace...

burmafrd

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Why don't the mods ban morons like that?
They are not fans; they are trolls. isn't this board for fans? Even the Commanders that frequent here usually have something constructive or interesting to say. THese two IDIOTS are pathetic.
 

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I keep thinking of that draft day rumor that if Carp wasn't available, we were gonna trade JJ to the Jets and pick up Malroney. Malroney is the perfect back for Parcells offense.
 

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All indications are that the draft rumor was from outside the war room. In other words- we got some inquiries about JJ; we did not make the calls.
 

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And as the saying goes if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.
 

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burmafrd;1149498 said:
And as the saying goes if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.

Well to me I would let Barber have some starts....Or just flat out play more than he does...start or no start. Speed isn't that big a deal to me. But to a lot of people...Speed is very important so they wouldn't want him to start just because of that. Because he wouldn't be the so called " Home run Threat" that Jones supposedly is.
 

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JJ is a home run threat. Proven. MB is not. Proven. MB has never taken over a game like JJ has done several times. Proven. JJ right now is top 10 in NFL in yds, yds per game, etc. How long would MB last with his style getting 20+ carries a game? He takes a lot of punishment. He would get worn down faster.
 

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this guy just cant win with some of the clods in this forum

in his 1st yr it was he had a 3 huge games and broke off alot of long runs...

now he is consistent on a down to down basis and "he doesnt break off enough long runs!!!!"

the guy is a good back...he's the starting RB and gets most of the carries here for a reason...Barber is a great change of pace guy...its awesome we have both of them...some teams dont even have one good back, let alone two

David
 

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Bob Gray;1149538 said:
I'm still pissed they didn't take Stephen Jackson.

why? Jones has been better than him since they came in the league

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dbair1967;1149544 said:
this guy just cant win with some of the clods in this forum

in his 1st yr it was he had a 3 huge games and broke off alot of long runs...

now he is consistent on a down to down basis and "he doesnt break off enough long runs!!!!"

the guy is a good back...he's the starting RB and gets most of the carries here for a reason...Barber is a great change of pace guy...its awesome we have both of them...some teams dont even have one good back, let alone two

David

I'm with you. I have no idea where this 'oh he goes down and doesn't break tackles' nonsense is coming from. I consistently see him driving, breaking a tackle or two and falling forward. He isn't the battering ram that Barber is, but no RB the size of either of those guys can run that way.

Our tandem is perfect the way it is. Jones consistently gets about 4.5 yards, and paces himself so that he can play the whole game. Barber comes in as a FRESH player on a WORN OUT DEFENSE and pops them with his injury.

Honestly, I'm shocked that after the debacle on Sunday we are talking about offense AT ALL, other than the drop of the easiest TD you will ever get. Our offense was excellent, and is playing better than it has in almost a decade.
 

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I know one thing. Sometimes the key to getting on somebody's crap list around here is to be one of the best and most consistent performers on the team.
 

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Crown Royal;1149580 said:
I'm with you. I have no idea where this 'oh he goes down and doesn't break tackles' nonsense is coming from. I consistently see him driving, breaking a tackle or two and falling forward. He isn't the battering ram that Barber is, but no RB the size of either of those guys can run that way.

Our tandem is perfect the way it is. Jones consistently gets about 4.5 yards, and paces himself so that he can play the whole game. Barber comes in as a FRESH player on a WORN OUT DEFENSE and pops them with his injury.

Honestly, I'm shocked that after the debacle on Sunday we are talking about offense AT ALL, other than the drop of the easiest TD you will ever get. Our offense was excellent, and is playing better than it has in almost a decade.

The way some describe JJ I am surprised he is even on an NFL roster. He doesn't hit the hole and never breaks tackles. How does he gain yards? You would think he would be averaging 2.6 yards per carry and 0 TDs.

I do agree that he is not an ACE back. There are only a handful of those in the NFL. He is not Tomlinson. So? He is still a pretty good back. Good enough to help a team win. He also has a pretty good back up. Jones and Barber are not the problem in Dallas. They are a tandem that does well.

I read the several posts relating number of carries with being an ACE back. The number 30 kept popping up as the standard for the number of carries a running back needed to have to be considered an ACE back. That just doesn't work.

The record for most rushing attempts in a single season is 410 by Jamal Anderson. That equals 25.6 carries per game.

Emmitt's highest season total was 377 attempts or 23.6 per game. During the 3 SBs in 4 years, he averaged 23.0 carries per game. For his full carrer he averaged 19.5 carries per game. He was an ACE back, but doesn't come close to 30 carries per game. I would not compare Julius to Emmitt and if I did I wouldn't use the number of carries to make that comparison.

Julius has not taken over a game this year. I don't think he has been given the opportunity to take over a game. Turnovers, penalities and big plays given up by the defense have put Dallas in positions where they can't just lean on their running game.
 

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ConcordCowboy;1149492 said:
If Barber had Jones' speed...Jones would be the backup.

I'f Barber had Jones speed and agilty, our rb would be the next Walter
 

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Interesting.
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Kinda boring. Well, your bong water needs changing. Your team (whowever that might be) needs you. So go. Now. yuck-yuck.

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