Julius Jones, Kevin Jones or Stephen Jackson? Who would you rather have straight up?

[Jack]

Off of what I have seen so far...Kevin Jones.

Anyone who picks Julius over Kevin is being a homer.

That being said, I have a feeling Kevin will not be as durable as Julius and Julius will have a better career.

I want to see what they will do this year.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Off of what I have seen so far...Kevin Jones.

Anyone who picks Julius over Kevin is being a homer.

That being said, I have a feeling Kevin will not be as durable as Julius and Julius will have a better career.

I want to see what they will do this year.

Why do you view this as such?

 

[SultanOfSix]

Homer and proud of it:

Julius to Jones.

Similar to:

Smith to Sanders.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Anyone who picks Julius over Kevin is being a homer.

Nonsense. Taking Julius over Kevin is entirely reasonable, based on their performances last year. Can a reasonable case be made for Kevin, as well? Of course. But that's a far cry from Kevin being the clearly better choice.

 

[Jack]

Why do you view this as such?

From what I have seen of Kevin Jones in college and in the pros, he looks to be the better back. As of now. Julius had a great run at the end of the season, but I want to see him carry that on to this year. (I think he will)

Remember, Kevin was picked before Julius and was graded higher.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

From what I have seen of Kevin Jones in college and in the pros, he looks to be the better back. As of now. Julius had a great run at the end of the season, but I want to see him carry that on to this year. (I think he will)

Remember, Kevin was picked before Julius and was graded higher.

He was picked higher but that is based on the fact that he got more playing time. JJ had some issues while at his time at ND and that hurt him. I think at this point, you have to say that the jury is still out on either one. It's true that KJ was picked first. Does that mean that Kevin is better or that Julius was better value, thus better pick? Jackson was picked ahead of both. At this point, I wouldn't look at that senario and say Jackson is better then either of the Jones boys. I think you gotta step back and let these guys prove themselves over time. Based on last year, I don't think either club can be disapointed with either player. I also don't think either club can make a claim that one is better then the other just yet.

 

[Zaxor]

I am a homer but it does not matter if JJ stays healthy he will be special

 

[jaman4]

I wnt to see more than 3 big games from Julius before i can say im totally happy with the selection. He tore up 3 of the leagues worst run defenses last year, on national TV, so i think he's being hyped up a bit unfairly. Look at how poorly he did against Baltimore (2.7 ypc), Washingon (2.6), Philly (3.2) --- by the way, Steven Jackson had 150 yards on 6.2 yards per carry against Philly.

Kevin on the other hand, finished the season with one game under 4 ypc (Tennessee) and that was at 3.8. KJ nothing special? He busted off runs for 31, 39, 40, 74 yards. Had 4 games with 4 or more catches. JJ's long runs were 23, 33, and 53 yards, and only had one game with more than 4 catches.

If i had my choice though, id go with Jackson. He's definitely a Parcells type back that just gets better as the game goes on. However, i do agree that his career will probably be the shortest due to his style, but ill take 5 dominant years anyday. Once he gets his full time shot in St Louis, he should tear the league apart.

 

[Jack]

He was picked higher but that is based on the fact that he got more playing time. JJ had some issues while at his time at ND and that hurt him. I think at this point, you have to say that the jury is still out on either one. It's true that KJ was picked first. Does that mean that Kevin is better or that Julius was better value, thus better pick? Jackson was picked ahead of both. At this point, I wouldn't look at that senario and say Jackson is better then either of the Jones boys. I think you gotta step back and let these guys prove themselves over time. Based on last year, I don't think either club can be disapointed with either player. I also don't think either club can make a claim that one is better then the other just yet.

I totally agree with you.

But, if I have to pick which one is better right now... I say Kevin Jones.

If I have to pick who will have a better career, I would bet on Julius.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I totally agree with you.

But, if I have to pick which one is better right now... I say Kevin Jones.

If I have to pick who will have a better career, I would bet on Julius.

OK.

Fair enough. One thing is certain. It will be fun watching to see who actually turns out better.

 

[ravidubey]

It's very close between Julius and Kevin and very hard to judge.

IMO, Kevin seemed to be more dependent on the team around him than Julius-- remember how it took several games for him to get going. When Kevin finally started getting carries and they spread the field accordingly, he started producing.

Julius seemed to be more fragile, a much poorer receiver, but a far faster back with better vision. If Julius has a seem, he can go the distance, while I don't feel the same way about Kevin.

Being able to kick a run to the outside is huge in today's NFL, and Julius adds that dimension to Dallas' offense while I'm not sure Kevin does that to Detroit without help from the formation and threats in the passing game.

Everyone knew Julius was getting the ball and he still dropped huge numbers. That has me leaning to Julius Jones, especially since I know how much both Bill Parcells and the Dallas organization value great running backs and are willing to build their franchises around them. With the Cowboys, it borders on unbelievable luck having had Thomas, Harris, Dorsett, Walker, Smith, and now Julius (touch wood) wearing stars on their helmets.

 

[diehard2294]

I feel it is too early to tell, I think all three will be productive backs,for how long is another question. When I heard people last year say JJ had some Barry Sanders in his style I thought," I dont see it" however after looking at more pics,video of him you see some of BS in him. He cuts on a dime,seems like his body is going one way and his feet another. I feel he also makes people miss better then the other 2 at this point. If they all stay healthy I like JJ's outcome the best.

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[MiStar]

It's hard for any back to gash a top defense without stellar play from the offensive line. When defenders are consistently getting into the backfield, there isn't a back in the league that can dominate.

Put Julius behind the KC line, and he'll put up numbers against everyone.

 

[wxcpo]

I wnt to see more than 3 big games from Julius before i can say im totally happy with the selection. He tore up 3 of the leagues worst run defenses last year, on national TV, so i think he's being hyped up a bit unfairly. Look at how poorly he did against Baltimore (2.7 ypc), Washingon (2.6), Philly (3.2) --- by the way, Steven Jackson had 150 yards on 6.2 yards per carry against Philly.

Kevin on the other hand, finished the season with one game under 4 ypc (Tennessee) and that was at 3.8. KJ nothing special? He busted off runs for 31, 39, 40, 74 yards. Had 4 games with 4 or more catches. JJ's long runs were 23, 33, and 53 yards, and only had one game with more than 4 catches.

If i had my choice though, id go with Jackson. He's definitely a Parcells type back that just gets better as the game goes on. However, i do agree that his career will probably be the shortest due to his style, but ill take 5 dominant years anyday. Once he gets his full time shot in St Louis, he should tear the league apart.

Excellent post! This has been my arguement against placing JJ in such lofty positions because he hasn't proven anything yet. He has had 3 very good games and 3 stinkers with 1 so-so (Saints) thrown in. The biggest thing JJ has to prove before he can be placed among the elite is that he is durable. Doesn't matter how good he is if he can only play 6 -8 games per year. Give me a guy who runs for 1100 yards, but plays all 16 games over a guy who runs for 800, but only plays for half the season.

 

[Gaede]

I don't care who JJ played against or how bad they were statistically.

I saw the ability to make anyone miss, the speed to outrun people, the vision to pick the right hole and the smarts to get as many yards possible when there's nothing there and nowhere to go.

I saw unlimited natural ability, stuff that can't be taught, and stuff that shows itself NO MATTER the competition.

And Steven Jackson is not a Parcells back. If he was, Parcells would've drafted him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I don't care who JJ played against or how bad they were statistically.

I saw the ability to make anyone miss, the speed to outrun people, the vision to pick the right hole and the smarts to get as many yards possible when there's nothing there and nowhere to go.

I saw unlimited natural ability, stuff that can't be taught, and stuff that shows itself NO MATTER the competition.

And Steven Jackson is not a Parcells back. If he was, Parcells would've drafted him.

Good post...

 

[Tio]

Off of what I have seen so far...Kevin Jones.

Anyone who picks Julius over Kevin is being a homer.

That being said, I have a feeling Kevin will not be as durable as Julius and Julius will have a better career.

I want to see what they will do this year.

explain. DOn't just make a blanket statement with nothing to back it up and call everyone a homer.

 

[Tio]

I wnt to see more than 3 big games from Julius before i can say im totally happy with the selection. He tore up 3 of the leagues worst run defenses last year, on national TV, so i think he's being hyped up a bit unfairly. Look at how poorly he did against Baltimore (2.7 ypc), Washingon (2.6), Philly (3.2) --- by the way, Steven Jackson had 150 yards on 6.2 yards per carry against Philly.

Kevin on the other hand, finished the season with one game under 4 ypc (Tennessee) and that was at 3.8. KJ nothing special? He busted off runs for 31, 39, 40, 74 yards. Had 4 games with 4 or more catches. JJ's long runs were 23, 33, and 53 yards, and only had one game with more than 4 catches.

If i had my choice though, id go with Jackson. He's definitely a Parcells type back that just gets better as the game goes on. However, i do agree that his career will probably be the shortest due to his style, but ill take 5 dominant years anyday. Once he gets his full time shot in St Louis, he should tear the league apart.

you mean against philly's backups.

 

[Tio]

I wnt to see more than 3 big games from Julius before i can say im totally happy with the selection. He tore up 3 of the leagues worst run defenses last year, on national TV, so i think he's being hyped up a bit unfairly. Look at how poorly he did against Baltimore (2.7 ypc), Washingon (2.6), Philly (3.2) --- by the way, Steven Jackson had 150 yards on 6.2 yards per carry against Philly.

Kevin on the other hand, finished the season with one game under 4 ypc (Tennessee) and that was at 3.8. KJ nothing special? He busted off runs for 31, 39, 40, 74 yards. Had 4 games with 4 or more catches. JJ's long runs were 23, 33, and 53 yards, and only had one game with more than 4 catches.

If i had my choice though, id go with Jackson. He's definitely a Parcells type back that just gets better as the game goes on. However, i do agree that his career will probably be the shortest due to his style, but ill take 5 dominant years anyday. Once he gets his full time shot in St Louis, he should tear the league apart.

I remember kevin struggling against us as well as almost every team in the first 8 games of the season.

 

[jaman4]

I remember kevin struggling against us as well as almost every team in the first 8 games of the season.

He had a high ankle sprain in week 3, and anyone that knows about that injury knows its a 4-6 week recovery. Deuce Mcallister suffered a similar injury last year in week 2, and he wasnt the same until about week 8 or so.