Just a Thought On Romo

[CCBoy]

Now, some more meat onto the grill...

Away we go:

@toddarcher: The Cowboys are moving Dez Bryant around more with Scott Linehan. There is a balance they have to strike between taking smart chances when he's doubled and forcing the ball to him. The coaches don't want Tony Romo forcing the ball to Bryant. Bad things happen when that happens. Now, this week, I don't know you will see the Cowboys try to press the ball down the field as much. The Titans bring a lot of pressure and the ball will have to get out of Romo's hands. Getting the ball to Bryant early is always a staple with this offense with smokes or stop routes. I was surprised the Cowboys weren't able to get Bryant more involved last week, especially after the Niners lost their starting corners. That is a little concerning, but I want to see more evidence of a Linehan offense before I get carried away.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think all QB's make mistakes and Romo was a risk taker so his mistakes were glaring.
About four years ago Romo curtailed his cavalier ways and his interceptions dropped.
He'll always throw interceptions . Romo isn't a top five QB. The next several games are going to
tell a lot.

Agreed. All QBs will throw ints.

Problem. Hand off more and cut down on int chances.

Its just smart!

 

[Mr Cowboy]

A couple of things:

Romo is running plays like he practices. In practice those plays where he threw the Interceptions were wide open every time. He practices against freshmen high school level safeties who get sucked in with playaction. Teams with NFL caliber safeties know better thru film study. Same with Tyron, he practices against dumpster diamonds, so he looks bad when he plays against NFL caliber players. Tyron was sharp when he practiced against Ware.

As long as Jerry is calling the shots, he will not draft a QB early in the first round. I look for him to try to develop Vaughn, at all cost, to prove that he is an NFL man, and can find QBs and develop them in the udfa pool. if this team ends up with an early first round pick, the will probably trade out of there, get the short of the stick anond up with the next greatest CB since Deion.

 

[noshame]

I was watching Billick breaking down Tony's int's last week and you could not help but notice Tony was trying to go deep without following through(throwing off his back foot.) It was obvious Tony is feeling pain and cannot throw normally, I hope they can re-design the offense and go back to the horizontal routes (last year) and accentuate run game as it might be enough to get it done. The Cowboys must be aware of Tony's condition and I would ne be surprised to see Weeden if Tony starts off badly.

 

[Idgit]

I was watching Billick breaking down Tony's int's last week and you could not help but notice Tony was trying to go deep without following through(throwing off his back foot.) It was obvious Tony is feeling pain and cannot throw normally, I hope they can re-design the offense and go back to the horizontal routes (last year) and accentuate run game as it might be enough to get it done. The Cowboys must be aware of Tony's condition and I would ne be surprised to see Weeden if Tony starts off badly.

Hard to tell which of this was Billick, and which your own editorial. Billick said Tony had bad mechanics because of back pain in his break down?

 

[KJJ]

Still not seeing the 'lost something' part.

It was "reported" during camp Romo "lost something" on his deep balls. It was stated in the article I posted that Romo had a weakened deep ball which means he "lost something." Wade Wilson was quoted as saying "I think the deeper the ball goes down the field, it's a little more inconsistent." Translated that means Romo "lost something." Wilson said during camp Romo should get stronger as camp goes on in regards to his deep throws which means he lost something on them. Last Sunday Romo's 2 deep throws to Dez and Harris were under thrown ducks which pointed to him losing something. Wilson said he "thinks" it's Romo's back that's causing the issue...duh! He claimed Romo would get stronger as camp went on and that didn't happen.

He claimed he wasn't concern but there was concern which is why Romo was held out of practices and some preseason action. There's more concern after Romo's dismal performance last week. Wilson isn't good for Romo he doesn't have a clue what's going on and will be one of the coaches looking for work after the season. I said in March Romo's back surgery could affect his arm strength and mentioned that Troy Aikman said he lost 10-15 yards on his deep ball after his back surgery. If Romo has another bad game tomorrow there's going to be some real concern because his history has been to bounce back after a bad performance.

 

[CCBoy]

It was "reported" during camp Romo "lost something" on his deep balls. It was stated in the article I posted that Romo had a weakened deep ball which means he "lost something." Wade Wilson was quoted as saying "I think the deeper the ball goes down the field, it's a little more inconsistent." Translated that means Romo "lost something." Wilson said during camp Romo should get stronger as camp goes on in regards to his deep throws which means he lost something on them. Last Sunday Romo's 2 deep throws to Dez and Harris were under thrown ducks which pointed to him losing something. Wilson said he "thinks" it's Romo's back that's causing the issue...duh! He claimed Romo would get stronger as camp went on and that didn't happen.

He claimed he wasn't concern but there was concern which is why Romo was held out of practices and some preseason action. There's more concern after Romo's dismal performance last week. Wilson isn't good for Romo he doesn't have a clue what's going on and will be one of the coaches looking for work after the season. I said in March Romo's back surgery could affect his arm strength and mentioned that Troy Aikman said he lost 10-15 yards on his deep ball after his back surgery. If Romo has another bad game tomorrow there's going to be some real concern because his history has been to bounce back after a bad performance.

I think the line referred to by Fuzzy, was - although it was noticed that horizontal distance was being affected early on...that didn't also mean that the ability to do so was lost beyond the immediate affects in throwing. Not the long termed ability...being defined.

 

[DandyDon1722]

It was "reported" during camp Romo "lost something" on his deep balls. It was stated in the article I posted that Romo had a weakened deep ball which means he "lost something." Wade Wilson was quoted as saying "I think the deeper the ball goes down the field, it's a little more inconsistent." Translated that means Romo "lost something." Wilson said during camp Romo should get stronger as camp goes on in regards to his deep throws which means he lost something on them. Last Sunday Romo's 2 deep throws to Dez and Harris were under thrown ducks which pointed to him losing something. Wilson said he "thinks" it's Romo's back that's causing the issue...duh! He claimed Romo would get stronger as camp went on and that didn't happen.

He claimed he wasn't concern but there was concern which is why Romo was held out of practices and some preseason action. There's more concern after Romo's dismal performance last week. Wilson isn't good for Romo he doesn't have a clue what's going on and will be one of the coaches looking for work after the season. I said in March Romo's back surgery could affect his arm strength and mentioned that Troy Aikman said he lost 10-15 yards on his deep ball after his back surgery. If Romo has another bad game tomorrow there's going to be some real concern because his history has been to bounce back after a bad performance.

I'm not saying you're wrong because the eye test certainly says the balls floated, but he did throw one 59 yards and with bad mechanics so I'm not going to bury his arm yet. I would like to see less air under the ball. I just get the feeling he has such great confidence in Dez gong up and getting it that it's more of a "run under it" type of throw. I've said this before but I'm sticking to it--

Once is a mistake
Twice is a trend
Three times is a problem.

I think after the Rams game a fair assessment can be made - good or bad.

 

[noshame]

Hard to tell which of this was Billick, and which your own editorial. Billick said Tony had bad mechanics because of back pain in his break down?

He said it "could be" which is all he can say. But if you watch, there is no step following the throw. It looks like a boxer pulling a punch, or a baseball player just tossing a ball instead of stepping into his throw. Which tells you he's trying to use as little torque as possible, it's not natural.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It was "reported" during camp Romo "lost something" on his deep balls. It was stated in the article I posted that Romo had a weakened deep ball which means he "lost something." Wade Wilson was quoted as saying "I think the deeper the ball goes down the field, it's a little more inconsistent." Translated that means Romo "lost something." Wilson said during camp Romo should get stronger as camp goes on in regards to his deep throws which means he lost something on them. Last Sunday Romo's 2 deep throws to Dez and Harris were under thrown ducks which pointed to him losing something. Wilson said he "thinks" it's Romo's back that's causing the issue...duh! He claimed Romo would get stronger as camp went on and that didn't happen.

He claimed he wasn't concern but there was concern which is why Romo was held out of practices and some preseason action. There's more concern after Romo's dismal performance last week. Wilson isn't good for Romo he doesn't have a clue what's going on and will be one of the coaches looking for work after the season. I said in March Romo's back surgery could affect his arm strength and mentioned that Troy Aikman said he lost 10-15 yards on his deep ball after his back surgery. If Romo has another bad game tomorrow there's going to be some real concern because his history has been to bounce back after a bad performance.

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word lost. I will help: it doesn't mean inconsistent. Lost implies that it is gone and you don't know where to look.

 

[KJJ]

I'm not saying you're wrong because the eye test certainly says the balls floated, but he did throw one 59 yards and with bad mechanics so I'm not going to bury his arm yet. I would like to see less air under the ball. I just get the feeling he has such great confidence in Dez gong up and getting it that it's more of a "run under it" type of throw. I've said this before but I'm sticking to it--

Once is a mistake
Twice is a trend
Three times is a problem.

I think after the Rams game a fair assessment can be made - good or bad.

He has confidence in Dez but I doubt he has the same confidence in Harris and the heave to Harris was also a duck that was under thrown. Even on Romo's shorter throws he doesn't seem to have the same zip on the ball and all it takes is a pass arriving a fraction late to lead to a pick. What we saw in the game last Sunday is what we heard in training camp. The weakened deep throws all stem from his back and not his arm but it affects his arm strength. When a QB throws the ball there's a torqueing motion similar to a golfer performing a golf swing. That's where they get their power and if a QB or golfer is having to compensate for an injury during that torqueing motion it can affect how far a pass or golf ball goes.

If they continue to have to compensate it can screw up their mechanics. I know that Tiger Woods after returning from his back surgery this summer said he lost some distance on his tee balls. We'll just have to see how Romo looks tomorrow and if he still doesn't look right this season could go to pot real soon. Now that the season has started the Cowboys can't hold Romo back he needs the work and hopefully it doesn't take it's toll on his back as the season goes on.

 

[KJJ]

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word lost. I will help: it doesn't mean inconsistent. Lost implies that it is gone and you don't know where to look.

You're the one who needs to start looking up the meaning of words. The word "lost" means something that has been taken away as in diminished. "Lost" doesn't mean something is gone and can't be recovered. The word "gone' means no longer present and that doesn't apply to Romo's arm strength. He can still get the ball down the field but his deep balls have diminished some as in "lost something." If you want to keep arguing better be prepared for a pop test.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The word "lost" means something that has been taken away as in diminished. "Lost" doesn't mean something can't be recovered. The word "gone' means no longer present and that doesn't apply to Romo's arm strength. He can still get the ball down the field but his deep balls have diminished some as in "lost something." If you want to keep arguing better be prepared for a pop test.

He never said it could or couldn't be recovered. He clearly said inconsistent. Diminished is your word which is not accurate.

 

[KJJ]

He never said it could or couldn't be recovered. He clearly said inconsistent. Diminished is your word which is not accurate.

I never said Wilson said it could or couldn't be recovered and I never said it was reported he said that. Try again! lol He used the word "inconsistent" describing the deeper the ball goes the more inconsistent Romo's passes are. What do you think would cause his deeper balls to become more inconsistent than his shorter throws? Common sense would tell you that Romo isn't able to get as much into deeper throws which causes them to tail off and become more inaccurate. It's like hitting a golf ball if you don't get enough into the shot it's weak and ends up missing it's target. All it takes is the ability to read between the lines on these comments. I used the word "diminished" to help give you the definition of "lost something."

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I never said Wilson said it could or couldn't be recovered and I never said it was reported he said that. Try again! lol He used the word "inconsistent" describing the deeper the ball goes the more inconsistent Romo's passes are. What do you think would cause his deeper balls to become more inconsistent than his shorter throws? Common sense would tell you that Romo isn't able to get as much into deeper throws which causes them to tail off and become more inaccurate. It's like hitting a golf ball if you don't get enough into the shot it's weak and ends up missing it's target. All it takes is the ability to read between the lines on these comments. I used the word "diminished" to help give you the definition of "lost something."

intermittent is not the same as diminished. you are inserting new words for wilson again and again.

 

[slomoxn]

They went through a lot of QBs before Peyton found Romo. Can't imagine how long it would take them this time.

Without Peyton doing the searching...

 

[KJJ]

intermittent is not the same as diminished. you are inserting new words for wilson again and again.

I never used the word "intermittent" in describing "diminished" you're the one who inserted that. The word "gone" means "dead" as in it's never coming back and the word "lost" doesn't mean it can never be found again. I can do this to you all day. lol

 

[KJJ]

I think the line referred to by Fuzzy, was - although it was noticed that horizontal distance was being affected early on...that didn't also mean that the ability to do so was lost beyond the immediate affects in throwing. Not the long termed ability...being defined.

That actually makes a lot more sense than the word definitions he's come up with. lol

 

[SHAMSzy]

While you did quote one poster, your post began, as illustrated above, with: Lol you guys...

Kinda implies you meant more than this guy.

Yeah I am talking about more than this guy but not you. Your original post is completely rational.

 

[Dodger12]

I don't even know how someone can argue that Romo hasn't lost some velocity and lost arm strength on his deep balls. It's plain as day.