Just a Thought On Romo

[xwalker]

Precisely my point.

I knew that was what you meant all along, but its confusing when you say dead money gets offset because that makes it sound like the dead money goes away. It doesn't; it remains on the books. The only things that goes away is base salary, which offsets the overall cap number (base + bonus) that would have charged had the player not been cut.

OK. If other people didn't understand my original post, then hopefully they do now after reviewing our discussion.

 

[noshame]

They could have gotten David Lee back between the 2012 and 2013 seasons. Romo says that is the guy that he learned the most from in his career.

It's a shame we didn't

 

[xwalker]

Projected to go one and two. Can Dallas get there? Do they intrigue you as franchise QB?

1. http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/images/fball/raidersb_logo.gif Oakland Raiders: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/college/Oregon_logo.gif
   The obvious question regarding this pick: What about Derek Carr? Well, Carr was atrocious in the season opener, failing to go downfield at all until garbage time. If Carr continues to play this way, Oakland will have the worst record in the NFL, and it'll be in position to draft either Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston. We've seen franchises give up on second-round signal-callers after one year, so that's what would happen in this scenario. If, however, Carr improves, it'll be a moot point because Oakland won't be selecting first overall.
   
   It's a close call between Mariota and Winston in terms of talent, but the former has a slight edge right now. With most things being equal, Mariota is clean off the field. Winston, meanwhile, has several off-the-field issues that could scare some teams away.
   
   Follow @walterfootball for updates.
   
   Pick change; previously Andrus Peat, OT
   
2. http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/images/fball/giantsb_logo.gif New York Giants: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/college/FloridaState_logo.gif
   As CoryCurren from the forums put it, "Winless for Winston." The Giants, like the Raiders, are an abomination right now. It all starts with Eli Manning. I don't know what happened to him, but he has somehow aged a decade in an entire offseason. Being unable to complete routine passes, Manning resembles a rotting carcass right now. He's done, and the Giants need to start over.
   
   Jameis Winston has the talent to go No. 1 overall, but character issues could drop him. I believe talent will win out, however, and that Winston will be a top-five pick. We've even had one NFL GM tell us that Jameis Winston is the real deal.

If Romo continues playing like he did against the Niners, then yes, they will probably be #1 or #2.

I have not really studied the 2015 draft and the projected #1 and #2 at this time of year are rarely the actual #1 and #2 on draft day.

 

[SHAMSzy]

Lol you guys have become so unappreciative of what Romo has done for this franchise based on one week, it's **** sad. Worst part is if he throws 300 yds 3 tds 0 ints a couple games in a row you'll all be claiming BSPN is underrating him. Quit being so reactionary.

Please, I have been watched every snap he has ever played. Welcome to reality pal. Put a fork in him, he is done.

Clearly you haven't if you think replacing him with Alex Smith would end up winning the same amount of games.

Did I ever say he isn't done? I don't know if he is or not, I'll wait to see.. Not claim that Alex Smith is an equal QB the past four years.

 

[xwalker]

So there's no way a player and team can just part ways and void the future of the contract while leaving the past part of the contract untouched?

That's crazy. Is there a reason behind that? Is there some way a team could abuse that?

Even if they cut Romo, he would still retire as a Cowboy because it's not as if he's going to go play for another team.

I don't know how the team would abuse it. They wouldn't keep a player around that couldn't or wouldn't compete at a high level in practice.

The abuse that we've seen is on the player's side. Ratliff and Orton abused the system. Ratliff faked the severity of his injury. Orton put himself into a position of telling them he would report to training camp but had no off-season contact with them or the new Offensive coordinator. They didn't have much choice. If he didn't want to be here they can't really force him. It takes a lot of effort to be good enough in training camp to make a 53 man roster. It wouldn't take much for a guy to not be good enough which would force the team to cut him. I'm sure that's what the Cowboys decided that Orton would do if he came to camp.

 

[KJJ]

You're taking the quote from Wade Wilson out of context. He said that the deep ball was lacking because Romo was holding back - reluctant to let it go and test his back. He also said, in the very next sentence, that he was throwing better than he had been at the beginning of camp, and that he expected that he would get stronger with time.

As for the INT intended for Dez, it was short, but still traveled 57 yards in the air.

My response wasn't to a "quote" by Wilson it was in response to what was "reported" Wilson had said. We had a discussion about it on the board during camp. Here's a couple of articles.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000374567/article/tony-romos-back-surgery-affecting-deep-ball

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...omos-deep-throws-inconsistent-due-to-his-back

 

[TwoDeep3]

Lol you guys have become so unappreciative of what Romo has done for this franchise based on one week, it's **** sad. Worst part is if he throws 300 yds 3 tds 0 ints a couple games in a row you'll all be claiming BSPN is underrating him. Quit being so reactionary.

So this is merely a topic of discussion. If the worst case scenario were to happen with Romo.

So let me ask you a question.

Do you use a seatbelt? If so, are you being reactionary, or thoughtful?

 

[rpntex]

My response wasn't to a "quote" by Wilson it was in response to what was "reported" Wilson had said. We had a discussion about it on the board during camp. Here's a couple of articles.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000374567/article/tony-romos-back-surgery-affecting-deep-ball

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...omos-deep-throws-inconsistent-due-to-his-back

It's still out of context.

"Regardless of the play call, Wilson sounds unconcerned about Romo's ability to throw deep."

 

[SHAMSzy]

So this is merely a topic of discussion. If the worst case scenario were to happen with Romo.

So let me ask you a question.

Do you use a seatbelt? If so, are you being reactionary, or thoughtful?

The guy I quoted compared Romo to Alex Smith for the past four years, that's not reactionary? Okay.

 

[blumayne38]

Honestley football in the NFL is week 2 week

A more frightening thought is if they are bottom feeders WITH Tony.

He said he's good to go for several more years. That we will see his best in the future.

I sure hope that is true. I just don't know what to think anymore. Whether to believe all the spin or to believe last week was just a fluke.

 

[lane]

here's my thought on romo..

an undrafted qb who was thrust into a starting role because bill had seen enough of drew.

gave us some exciting plays and very stupid plays and mishaps along the way.

he does just enough to keep it interesting.

he is a poor man's brett favre...a very poor man's brett.

nothing personal mind you...but his strength is between the 20's...which by the way is where a whole hell of alot of his stats are from.

i'm so tired of watching him as our qb....throwing hands,,sulking..looking all dejected...that's not what i want to see from a qb.

anyone that can still defend him is just blind.

i'm sure he will play a good game sunday and the supporters will come out full force...but ..seriously it's time to move on.

 

[KJJ]

It's still out of context.

"Regardless of the play call, Wilson sounds unconcerned about Romo's ability to throw deep."

Nothing was taken out of context his inaccurate deep throws are due to his back it's affected his arm strength. Romo wasn't holding back on the two deep throws last Sunday and they were fluttering.

 

[Zman5]

Physically, I doubt Romo is done. Due to his surgery, he probably hasn't worked out his lower body as heavy as he usually does. . Lower body strength is where most of the power is generated when throwing the football. With time and proper training, he can get that back.

 

[Szczepanik]

I was watching First Take earlier * don't shoot me* when they had Jay Feely on, and they asked him about Rodgers and Brady.. who being the better of the two.

Feely goes with Brady, and argued that Rodgers probably didn't target Sherman last week due to gameplanning away from him. It then was said , by SAS " You don't think Rodgers has the reputation to over rule the game plan?"

Feely: "Great QB's always listen to their coaches, if they go out and need to run the ball, then they run the ball. The great QB's go out and execute their game plans."

Thanks Romo for checking out of our run and goals last week.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wade Wilson said during camp Romo lost something on his deep balls and you could see that last Sunday. The deep pass to Dez that was picked off was short and fluttering and the lucky completion to Harris was also a duck that was short but Harris was able to make a play on it.

Wilson did not say that.

 

[KJJ]

Wilson did not say that.

That's already been addressed. Wilson's "quote' was "I think the deeper the ball goes down the field, it's a little bit more inconsistent." Wilson went on to say "I think that's all due to his back." Wilson then said "He can get the ball down the field that's not an issue. As camp goes on, he'll just get nothing but stronger and more confident in his throws." Those comments by Wilson were made the first week in Aug. It's obvious by his comments he thought Romo's back surgery had affected his deep throws.

Last Sunday was a month since those comments and Romo was still inconsistent on his deep throws and he clearly hadn't gotten more confident in his throws. Wilson said 5 weeks ago "Hopefully with four days of complete rehab, he can come back on Saturday and start to look like his old self completely." Well it's been several weeks and Romo has yet to look like his old self completely.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's already been addressed. Wilson's "quote' was "I think the deeper the ball goes down the field, it's a little bit more inconsistent." Wilson went on to say "I think that's all due to his back." Wilson then said "He can get the ball down the field that's not an issue. As camp goes on, he'll just get nothing but stronger and more confident in his throws." Those comments by Wilson were made the first week in Aug. It's obvious by his comments he thought Romo's back surgery had affected his deep throws.

Last Sunday was a month since those comments and Romo was still inconsistent on his deep throws and he clearly hadn't gotten more confident in his throws. Wilson said 5 weeks ago "Hopefully with four days of complete rehab, he can come back on Saturday and start to look like his old self completely." Well it's been several weeks and Romo has yet to look like his old self completely.

Still not seeing the 'lost something' part.

 

[CCBoy]

The guy I quoted compared Romo to Alex Smith for the past four years, that's not reactionary? Okay.

Again, you didn't answer his questions...and that is cherry picking as to perspective, huh?

Here, I'll introduce some humor...

Hmmmm, hmmmm, hmmmm, hmm, hmmm....your Mommy says hike.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Lol you guys have become so unappreciative of what Romo has done for this franchise based on one week, it's **** sad. Worst part is if he throws 300 yds 3 tds 0 ints a couple games in a row you'll all be claiming BSPN is underrating him. Quit being so reactionary.

The guy I quoted compared Romo to Alex Smith for the past four years, that's not reactionary? Okay.

While you did quote one poster, your post began, as illustrated above, with: Lol you guys...

Kinda implies you meant more than this guy.

 

[Risen Star]

As much as some think I don't like Romo, this notion of him not being under center, and the resultant cap hit scares the drizzling pequot out of me.

Not me. How much farther can this team fall? It's already a joke. They already can't compete. Losing Romo costs the team nothing really. Maybe it makes the games less entertaining but the end result in January remains the same. We watch, other teams play.

I'm for anything it takes for real change.