Just Curious Your Take On Our Coach?

[Stautner]

Hmmm...quick slant to TO....how many of those did we try yesterday?

Now, you don't have to turn blue in the face.

How do you know it's an offensive strength if we haven't done it?

How can you say we could be successful with it even if the opposing team knew about it? What basis is there for that determination?

I'm not saying that a slant to TO won't work - seems like a reasonable play to run with TO. What I am saying is that we don't know everything sitting in front of the TV.

Perhaps TO was double covered in situations where a slant may have been appropriate. Maybe it was called, but Bledsoe chose another option. Maybe the timing between Bledsoe and TO was off when they ran it in practice.

And maybe it was just a call that should have been made that wasn't - the point is that armchair coaches don't know.

There is no doubt that there are individual plays that just don't make any sense, but that doesn't mean entire game plans or the entirety of the play calling in a game was flawed.

 

[Juke99]

Your right and by BP own words you are right. Your also right the mess he took over did make the playoffs with a 5-11 last place schedule and some good breaks along the way. This is BP 4th season in Dallas and I expect this team to be there in the end and I don't think your 4th year as coach is taking too long. Will see, I'll go down with the ship supporting Parcells but I'm not going to bail on him or this team.

Oh, I can criticize without bailing. You should see some of the stuff I say about Winicki...and I love the guy.

I'll be rooting. I've been for 40 years, I'm not gonna stop now.

 

[TtownCowboy]

I thought the gameplan sucked - badly.

They go into a hostile environment against a blitzing team and go empty backfield?

Bad gameplanning

The running game is working great early on and they fail to stick with it?

Bad gameplanning.
Their line can't handle the blitz yet they don't throw a quick slant or screen to beat it?

Bad gameplanning.

They spend their second round draft choice on a blocker who isn't involved in the passing game?

Bad gameplanning.

Sending a corner to blitz while keeping "cover guys" like Brady James and Akin Ayodele back all game?

Bad gameplanning.

I thought they made one bad move after another.

This is from another thread and part of my original point. I think we got a quick slant in here somewhere.

 

[tommyboy10]

How do you know it's an offensive strength if we haven't done it?

How can you say we could be successful with it even if the opposing team knew about it? What basis is there for that determination?

I'm not saying that a slant to TO won't work - seems like a reasonable play to run with TO. What I am saying is that we don't know everything sitting in front of the TV.

Perhaps TO was double covered in situations where a slant may have been appropriate. Maybe it was called, but Bledsoe chose another option. Maybe the timing between Bledsoe and TO was off when they ran it in practice.

And maybe it was just a call that should have been made that wasn't - the point is that armchair coaches don't know.

There is no doubt that there are individual plays that just don't make any sense, but that doesn't mean entire game plans or the entirety of the play calling in a game was flawed.

You asked for me to name something we could call a strength that we didn't use...I did...The reason I know it works with him is because he has had years of success with it. TO has the strength of using his big body to get position and then break free...How about using even the threat of it and doing a double move? Hmmm...I also said earlier that I am not qualified to coach...If you would like me to humble myself in that way again, fine....Listen here: I am not qualified to coach.

Look at what is asked and what is said before you throw it back.

Perhaps if TO is double covered as you stated, and as he was alot, then Terry Glenn is really fast, and maybe he could get past someone, as he did to get us n position to score just before we blew the game. Perhaps if TO is double covered we could get him out and further down the field, and keep running, which is a strength, which we went away from.

Hey, here you go, just for clarity----I am not a coach, nor am I more qualified than Bill....If you look back, you'll see that's the third time I stated that.

 

[Hostile]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

 

[tommyboy10]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

Yeah, I really think this is his last hurrah...No doubt in my mind.

 

[Rampage]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

agree he has been a failure

 

[The Fonz]

I never liked BP play calling since his NY time give me Norv anytime

 

[tommyboy10]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

You are right on with this...I appreciate the attempt on his part, but it's time to roll on....Just like it was with Landry. It's sad sometimes, but the truth. Nature of the game.

 

[TtownCowboy]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

True true. Sad part is if Jones were to even consider getting rid of him the media would toast him. I think in this case only the local media may be more on than the national. Parcells gets a pass cause he's an east coaster.

It's time for a change. IMHO

 

[Dave_in-NC]

True true. Sad part is if Jones were to even consider getting rid of him the media would toast him. I think in this case only the local media may be more on than the national. Parcells gets a pass cause he's an east coaster.
It's time for a change. IMHO

Thats the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

 

[tommyboy10]

Thats the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

I don't know...there might be alot of truth in that...alot of folks up that way worship him. Old media relationships, etc. I think it would be better received than not if they let him go. Especially around Dallas. But yeah, I think there is some truth there.

 

[Cbz40]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

I could not agree more.

The busdriver attitude,mentality,philosophy, whatever the heck you want to call it, stinks ... period and it's know mystery whose philosophy that is.

 

[TtownCowboy]

Thats the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

So do you ever hear the ESPNs giving any of the blame toParcells? Nope that's what I mean. North East Coast if that helps. He's gotten a pass w/the National media, which for sports is based out of the North East Coast, ever since he came back.

 

[Stautner]

You asked for me to name something we could call a strength that we didn't use...I did...The reason I know it works with him is because he has had years of success with it. TO has the strength of using his big body to get position and then break free...How about using even the threat of it and doing a double move? Hmmm...I also said earlier that I am not qualified to coach...If you would like me to humble myself in that way again, fine....Listen here: I am not qualified to coach.

Look at what is asked and what is said before you throw it back.

Perhaps if TO is double covered as you stated, and as he was alot, then Terry Glenn is really fast, and maybe he could get past someone, as he did to get us n position to score just before we blew the game. Perhaps if TO is double covered we could get him out and further down the field, and keep running, which is a strength, which we went away from.

Hey, here you go, just for clarity----I am not a coach, nor am I more qualified than Bill....If you look back, you'll see that's the third time I stated that.

There's some logic - the slant to TO is certain to be an unstoppable play with Dallas because it worked with Steve Young in San Francisco ......

As for your idea about the double move or more deep routes ...... we could barely hold back blitzers long enough for a 5 yard curl - do you really think plays that take a long time to develop were the answer?

Besides, if you will notice, 2 of the 3 plays that Bledsoe was intercepted on, as well as on one that should have been intercepted, were designed to be downfield passes - it just that in each case either the protection wasn't there or Bledsoe made stupid decisions.

That's an execution issue.

As I said, I'm not saying the coaches are immune from mistakes, but execution is the key - like with the 1990's Cowboys.

 

[5Stars]

I want him to retire at the end of this year. I want to go with a young, hungry coach. Parcells doesn't seem hungry to me. He seems to be resting on his Hall of Fame credentials.

I want a coach who's top priority is to fix the QB position and protect him.
I don't ever want to here a case made for a bus driver QB again. I just can't stomach that philosophy at all.

I appreciate that the team is better talent wise than what he inherited, but he's not done enough with the talent IMO. In some cases he's failed miserably.

If only he would retire....

One thing to remember is that he is a defensive minded coach, and that is why he uses terms about "bus drivers", and the "keep it close, win at the end" type of offense...I absoutely hate it!

Oh well, he's done some good here, but, what coach is out there that could be brought in next year? I would want a coach that wants the 3/4 defense because it's already in place, but, I would prefer an offensive minded young coach...but who? Who's out there that fits that description?

Not Zimmer! He's also a defensive minded coach...

 

[tommyboy10]

There's some logic - the slant to TO is certain to be an unstoppable play with Dallas because it worked with Steve Young in San Francisco ......

As for your idea about the double move or more deep routes ...... we could barely hold back blitzers long enough for a 5 yard curl - do you really think plays that take a long time to develop were the answer?

Besides, if you will notice, 2 of the 3 plays that Bledsoe was intercepted on, as well as on one that should have been intercepted, were designed to be downfield passes - it just that in each case either the protection wasn't there or Bledsoe made stupid decisions.

That's an execution issue.

As I said, I'm not saying the coaches are immune from mistakes, but execution is the key - like with the 1990's Cowboys.

I respect that, and that is fine, but what I am saying is that the coaches should give them something better to work with to execute. You don't think the playcalling and coverages, etc, could've been called better...Why did we go away from the run?

You answered my whole point....If we saw all game that we didn't have time, run more two tight end, put an extra back in the backfield.....we shot ourselves in the foot all freakin day. Bledsoe COULD'VE had more time. He COULD'VE been put in a better position to execute. Yeah, he still has to actually execute, but he should have been put in a better position. Why is everyone else able to throw the ball so well against them and we can't? Are their players better players or executers than our players? No.

 

[tommyboy10]

There's some logic - the slant to TO is certain to be an unstoppable play with Dallas because it worked with Steve Young in San Francisco ......

As for your idea about the double move or more deep routes ...... we could barely hold back blitzers long enough for a 5 yard curl - do you really think plays that take a long time to develop were the answer?

Besides, if you will notice, 2 of the 3 plays that Bledsoe was intercepted on, as well as on one that should have been intercepted, were designed to be downfield passes - it just that in each case either the protection wasn't there or Bledsoe made stupid decisions.

That's an execution issue.

As I said, I'm not saying the coaches are immune from mistakes, but execution is the key - like with the 1990's Cowboys.

If we knew they were blitzing so much, how about more screens or dump offs after we let a few through? We could've executed that. There are tons of things...I know it is the day after, and that is easy for me to say here, but we watched the same dang plays over and over all day. ADJUSTMENTS are a huge part of the game too...Who makes adjustments? Players?

 

[TtownCowboy]

If only he would retire....

One thing to remember is that he is a defensive minded coach, and that is why he uses terms about "bus drivers", and the "keep it close, win at the end" type of offense...I absoutely hate it!

Oh well, he's done some good here, but, what coach is out there that could be brought in next year? I would want a coach that wants the 3/4 defense because it's already in place, but, I would prefer an offensive minded young coach...but who? Who's out there that fits that description?

Not Zimmer! He's also a defensive minded coach...

At this point would it actually be that hard to go back to the 4-3. I'm probably just dreamin but how about:

DE-Ware, Ellis, Ratliff, Hatcher
DT-Spears, Canty, Ferguson

Trade off some of our LBs folks would want anyway

 

[TtownCowboy]

If we knew they were blitzing so much, how about more screens or dump offs after we let a few through? We could've executed that. There are tons of things...I know it is the day after, and that is easy for me to say here, but we watched the same dang plays over and over all day. ADJUSTMENTS are a huge part of the game too...Who makes adjustments? Players?

Great point. I was yelling at the screen the whole game. Screen pass, HB delay, Slant w/TO, move him around, How about some more Shotgun to give Dreadsoe some more time. This is what I'm saying about BP and game day coaching.