CFZ Just for fun whose fault were Dak's 15 picks

starfan1

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I understand it perfectly.

I also understand that people like to look at other teams "failure" to cope with what they're stuck with.

That ain't me though. I'll let Falcons/Chiefs worry about those dropped INTs 2 seasons ago. If it makes you feel better about Dak then more power to ya, bro.
When they took place don’t matter it’s the fact that they took place.You post troll comments you get appropriate response

We know it ain’t you. You make a habit of doing nothing but trolling it’s your schtick

If you understood perfectly you wouldn’t make the comment unless you’re just trying to get a reaction
 

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About half are Daks fault. But he threw them so he gets the wrap. Whose fault was his TDs. Or the wins. 2 loses our Defense blew big leads. We will see this year if Moores playcalling had anything to do with it. MM is gonna go with a 2016 short pass game with a better WR corps. We gonna see.
 

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Still to me you dont make that throw.
Maybe Gallup was like the fourth read and wasn’t expecting it. Can’t say.

If your point is interceptions aren’t always 100% on the QB, I hear you.

But whatever it is, while eliminating them isn’t gonna happen, cutting down on them is a must, and I think that’s what MM is trying to do.
 

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Well, it's a good thing Dak and Mccarthy are going over film of all the interceptions and bad throws. Just in time before he throws 16 interceptions in a short amount of games. Wait..........what...........what are they doing when the season ended?
 

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So here are all 15 of Dak's regular season picks. I tried to be as judicious as possible with whos fault they were. I used the following angles of fault:

1. Dak=Daks fault, terrible pass or decision
2. M=Miscommunication with the WR running wrong route or going behind back instead of rounding in front of the DB
3. WR=Wr's fault. Ball bounced off his hands and into the DB
4. Def=Defense simply made an incredible play or got a lucky tip for a pick

Picks
1. Dak
2. M
3. Dak
4. M/WR
5. Dak
6. Def
7. M Lamb fell down great play by Gilmore to step in front
8. Def
9. Dak
10. Dak
11. WR
12. Dak Sweat made a great play, but Ill give this one to Dak
13. WR
14. Dak
15. Dak

Some of these were easy to see it was Dak or the WR. Some were more difficult. Definitely 2 that were Lambs fault going behind the DB

So the finally tally is:

Dak=8
M/WR=5
Def=2

Not sure what this proves or disproves just interesting to see the results.

Rocky
 

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Maybe Gallup was like the fourth read and wasn’t expecting it. Can’t say.

If your point is interceptions aren’t always 100% on the QB, I hear you.

But whatever it is, while eliminating them isn’t gonna happen, cutting down on them is a must, and I think that’s what MM is trying to do.
I dont have a point really. Just wanted to see the reality of the picks. AS far as the picks, yah they need to be reduced. But Dak isnt known for picks so Im really not worried about it. Up until this year, he was great with the lack of picks.

But if we are looking for a reason as to why I think it makes some sense. Cooper gone. Gallup had no preseason or offseason with Dak. Brown was new to the increased roll. Gallup was out the first 5 games and Shultz was out for 4 of the first 5. I think it makes sense he was not on the same page with some of these guys as he should be and now he is forcing things into Lamb with a new role as the true #1. There was a lot of turnover at the WR position.
 

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When they took place don’t matter it’s the fact that they took place.You post troll comments you get appropriate response

We know it ain’t you. You make a habit of doing nothing but trolling it’s your schtick

If you understood perfectly you wouldn’t make the comment unless you’re just trying to get a reaction
Whatever helps you cope with Dak, bro.

We all have our ways.
 

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About half are Daks fault. But he threw them so he gets the wrap. Whose fault was his TDs. Or the wins. 2 loses our Defense blew big leads. We will see this year if Moores playcalling had anything to do with it. MM is gonna go with a 2016 short pass game with a better WR corps. We gonna see.
I think even if a receiver runs a wrong route, gets bumped...or "runs behind the db" or "coached told him to throw that"..

QB has to have the awareness and intellect to NOT...throw it!

Yes I am aware of "timing routes". There are some subtilties laypersons are not aware of. These are the kind of things an elite QB KNOWS...and an average QB does anyway.

Well anyway...um er....we ARE gonna see if HC can get a hold of this and straighten it out. Fix the o line coach! It broke.
 

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So here are all 15 of Dak's regular season picks. I tried to be as judicious as possible with whos fault they were. I used the following angles of fault:

1. Dak=Daks fault, terrible pass or decision
2. M=Miscommunication with the WR running wrong route or going behind back instead of rounding in front of the DB
3. WR=Wr's fault. Ball bounced off his hands and into the DB
4. Def=Defense simply made an incredible play or got a lucky tip for a pick

Picks
1. Dak
2. M
3. Dak
4. M/WR
5. Dak
6. Def
7. M Lamb fell down great play by Gilmore to step in front
8. Def
9. Dak
10. Dak
11. WR
12. Dak Sweat made a great play, but Ill give this one to Dak
13. WR
14. Dak
15. Dak

Some of these were easy to see it was Dak or the WR. Some were more difficult. Definitely 2 that were Lambs fault going behind the DB

So the finally tally is:

Dak=8
M/WR=5
Def=2

Not sure what this proves or disproves just interesting to see the results.

Great analysis but Dak lost a few notches in my eyes this year. I don't hate the guy like a lot of the clowns, he had to deal with losing Amari and relying on Clifford Franklin (aka Noah Brown) as his #2 but he threw a lot of unbelievably idiotic passes and played a Quincy Carter level game against the 49ers. I know it is the 49ers BUT he sucked worse than most of the other players on the team besides Zeke when the chips were down.

With that said, I think next year will be a rebound year for Dak. The FO as stupid as they are realized they didn't replace Cooper properly and with the Cooks trade they are at least back where they were on Offense. I want them to add a future piece on the Oline and draft a RB in the later rounds. There are like 10 RB's this year that can upgrade Zeke after round 2. I like the idea of Mayer at TE too but honestly build the Oline.
 

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Maybe Gallup was like the fourth read and wasn’t expecting it. Can’t say.

If your point is interceptions aren’t always 100% on the QB, I hear you.

But whatever it is, while eliminating them isn’t gonna happen, cutting down on them is a must, and I think that’s what MM is trying to do.
Thats the master plan and its basically the most appropriate approach.
A more dialed down, TOP controlled game with the ability to make well timed plays is execution.
Moore tried to make this offense what it wasn't, and ultimately failed.
Im willing to give MM a shot to improve this offense with the tools he and has, and we are stuck with Dak rather you like him or not, its just reality.
If MM can successfully dial this back, and we can establish a solid ground game, this offense could come together and be enough, just limiting Daks fatal flaws.
 

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Not really sure what's any fun about going over Daks interceptions unless you feel like you need to assign blame to someone other than DAk which is fine I guess if it floats your boat.

Sure there were some interceptions that weren't dax fault but there were too many that were his fault and if we expect any postseason success you can't have that happen.

That said you can throw some pics in the regular season and still win 12 games you can overcome those mistakes against bad teams.

At the end of the day all the justification in the world isn't going to take you deep into the postseason with a quarterback that throws interceptions in the playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see if McCarthy can come up with a game plan that saves Dak from himself I'm figuring this is going to center around beefing up the offensive line and getting a good young running back out of the draft.
 

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So here are all 15 of Dak's regular season picks. I tried to be as judicious as possible with whos fault they were. I used the following angles of fault:

1. Dak=Daks fault, terrible pass or decision
2. M=Miscommunication with the WR running wrong route or going behind back instead of rounding in front of the DB
3. WR=Wr's fault. Ball bounced off his hands and into the DB
4. Def=Defense simply made an incredible play or got a lucky tip for a pick

Picks
1. Dak
2. M
3. Dak
4. M/WR
5. Dak
6. Def
7. M Lamb fell down great play by Gilmore to step in front
8. Def
9. Dak
10. Dak
11. WR
12. Dak Sweat made a great play, but Ill give this one to Dak
13. WR
14. Dak
15. Dak

Some of these were easy to see it was Dak or the WR. Some were more difficult. Definitely 2 that were Lambs fault going behind the DB

So the finally tally is:

Dak=8
M/WR=5
Def=2

Not sure what this proves or disproves just interesting to see the results.

That's a fair and balanced appraisal.... many on here would agree with, it's not a blame on one aspect, it's finding a system that suites the Offensive roster, something that Dak's comfortable with.....Cooks separation and maybe a 'wildcard' addition in the TE/RB.

Im sure scheme's designed to open up 1 or 2 receivers quickly and off the line and more suited to everyone involved (less Anxiety on Dak as he waits for routes to develop and also CeeDee and Cooks get to do what they specialize in YAC). This @Whyjerry is what I meant about a more simplified Offense.

Dak: not having to wait for routes to develop and reducing the number of progressions as only 1 or 2 should be getting
 

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Not really sure what's any fun about going over Daks interceptions unless you feel like you need to assign blame to someone other than DAk which is fine I guess if it floats your boat.

Sure there were some interceptions that weren't dax fault but there were too many that were his fault and if we expect any postseason success you can't have that happen.

That said you can throw some pics in the regular season and still win 12 games you can overcome those mistakes against bad teams.

At the end of the day all the justification in the world isn't going to take you deep into the postseason with a quarterback that throws interceptions in the playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see if McCarthy can come up with a game plan that saves Dak from himself I'm figuring this is going to center around beefing up the offensive line and getting a good young running back out of the draft.
If this a was an "Extreme Dak Hater" that posted this then if could be a lets find the scapegoat.... however it was a fair appraisal from a poster that's is more of a Dak Fan. It's not one thing and Im with you on MM finding a scheme that benefits the players (not the OC) (as mentioned above).
 

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Silly exercise just meant to stir the pot Roy.

How many were dropped by the other team?

You could do this with any QB in the league.
 

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Not really sure what's any fun about going over Daks interceptions unless you feel like you need to assign blame to someone other than DAk which is fine I guess if it floats your boat.

Sure there were some interceptions that weren't dax fault but there were too many that were his fault and if we expect any postseason success you can't have that happen.

That said you can throw some pics in the regular season and still win 12 games you can overcome those mistakes against bad teams.

At the end of the day all the justification in the world isn't going to take you deep into the postseason with a quarterback that throws interceptions in the playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see if McCarthy can come up with a game plan that saves Dak from himself I'm figuring this is going to center around beefing up the offensive line and getting a good young running back out of the draft.
In a nutshell totally agree that MM at least recognizes and utilizes the level of talent and if he is worth his salt than goes in that exact direction
Invest in OL/RB/TE in this draft, fairly deep at RB/TE in this draft, several really good prospects that would be good fits.
Would love to see a Charbonett in this backfield if we pass on Gibbs, several other solid RBs after the top 3.
Tajae Spears doesn't get much talk, but he runs routes better than most WRs out of the backfield, and top receiving skills from your RBs will be vital in MMs scheme.
Roschon Johnson later rounds at least, and thats an easy pick thats going to be hanging around.
My point being that RBs are plentiful in this draft, so good value there if they play their cards right.
OL and TE are probably going to be the vital picks that we look at with the first selection, Jerry gave MM control, so this will be an MM draft.
 
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