CFZ Just for fun whose fault were Dak's 15 picks

[noshame]

The amount of INTs that were dropped by the defense more than makes up for the ones that are considered not Dak's fault.

So in the end it all evens itself out.

Yeah like Detroit where he hit defenders in the chest twice and both dropped.
Go through any quarterbacks interceptions and you'll find the same thing. Unfortunately when you throw a lot of pics you throw a lot of pics.
But keep putting lipstick on that pig.

 

[jazzcat22]

Rather Dak's fault or not, or a dropped INT by a defense, or whatever. It is all subjective.
Look at the tipped INT in the Jaguars game. That has many different opinions as to who was at fault.

Some blame Dak and some blame Brown, heck some probably blame Moore for the play call, or MM for not calling a TO, if they had one, to take they time on setting up the right play.

It was most likely a combination of things. Dak could have been more accurate on the throw, putting it to where Brown could have caught it instead it hit off of his arm or hands or wherever.
Should Brown have adjusted better on a quick pass. If a defender was not in Dak's face, would the pass have been more on target.
Then the bounce itself. How many times has Dallas been unfortunate with these bounces. How many times does the Dallas defense get those deflected passes. It was a very unlucky bounce.

I know one person hated Brown so much, it was always his fault. Others do the same, hate Dak so it is his fault, others love Dak so it was Browns fault. A few like Brown so it was Dak's fault.
It just happened. No use to go on and on about it.

All I know is that we are going into the 2023 season, and things do not look worse than the 2022 season roster wise, and we have a new system in place that should help Dak as he will not be any worse.
The other thing I know. Dak throws his 1st pass, completion, incompletion, INT, it will be over analyzed for 20 pages.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Still to me you dont make that throw.

That, for me, sums up the whole issue (which is probably directed towards Kellen). I always got that he designed most EVERYONE to get at least 'partially' open and for Dak to go through progressions.....this failed as it didnt favor Dak having to ponder (with increasing anxiety) waiting for the routes to develop and the receivers who werent great at separating.......Dak ends up throwing to the LEAST WORSE option, which could still be risky throw.

Make it simple, a design fewer (quick) options, with a decent checkdown (Pollard or one of the RB's/TE's in the first couple of rounds in the draft).

The scheme should benefit the roster, not the OC.

 

[Typhus]

I like Dak and Brown at about the same level, they are/were slightly worthy of starting status.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Rather Dak's fault or not, or a dropped INT by a defense, or whatever. It is all subjective.
Look at the tipped INT in the Jaguars game. That has many different opinions as to who was at fault.

Some blame Dak and some blame Brown, heck some probably blame Moore for the play call, or MM for not calling a TO, if they had one, to take they time on setting up the right play.

It was most likely a combination of things. Dak could have been more accurate on the throw, putting it to where Brown could have caught it instead it hit off of his arm or hands or wherever.
Should Brown have adjusted better on a quick pass. If a defender was not in Dak's face, would the pass have been more on target.
Then the bounce itself. How many times has Dallas been unfortunate with these bounces. How many times does the Dallas defense get those deflected passes. It was a very unlucky bounce.

I know one person hated Brown so much, it was always his fault. Others do the same, hate Dak so it is his fault, others love Dak so it was Browns fault. A few like Brown so it was Dak's fault.
It just happened. No use to go on and on about it.

All I know is that we are going into the 2023 season, and things do not look worse than the 2022 season roster wise, and we have a new system in place that should help Dak as he will not be any worse.
The other thing I know. Dak throws his 1st pass, completion, incompletion, INT, it will be over analyzed for 20 pages.

Good post....(agree about a system that favors Dak and having receivers that he can trust and dont have hand's like feet). As for that last sentence, yep there will be that thread, INT's happen, but for me and I hope most rational fans it's the effects upon Dak's subsequent game, whether he's able to brush it off, that'll be determining factor on the improvement in his game.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So here are all 15 of Dak's regular season picks. I tried to be as judicious as possible with whos fault they were. I used the following angles of fault:

1. Dak=Daks fault, terrible pass or decision
2. M=Miscommunication with the WR running wrong route or going behind back instead of rounding in front of the DB
3. WR=Wr's fault. Ball bounced off his hands and into the DB
4. Def=Defense simply made an incredible play or got a lucky tip for a pick

Picks
1. Dak
2. M
3. Dak
4. M/WR
5. Dak
6. Def
7. M Lamb fell down great play by Gilmore to step in front
8. Def
9. Dak
10. Dak
11. WR
12. Dak Sweat made a great play, but Ill give this one to Dak
13. WR
14. Dak
15. Dak

Some of these were easy to see it was Dak or the WR. Some were more difficult. Definitely 2 that were Lambs fault going behind the DB

So the finally tally is:

Dak=8
M/WR=5
Def=2

Not sure what this proves or disproves just interesting to see the results.

the two that stick out in my mind, the ball that bounced up when it hit hendershot in the hand, that was clearly Dak's fault as it should have been 3 inches to the right. and the throw to Brown against Jaguars in overtime, that should have been 2 inches higher and 3 inches to the left. better ball placement and those two don't happen

 

[dfense]

Hey look! More prop up Dak posts.

 

[Ken]

It's a pointless exercise. Every QB will have miscommunications, WRs screw up, or defenses make great plays against them. Not every QB threw as many as Dak.

When you boil it all down, he still threw more than anyone not named Davis Mills.

Yes every qb has them but Dak led the league Ints that were not his fault.

That means a hell of a lot.

But I will let the usual gaggle keep spouting their nonsense.

 

[gtb1943]

Yes every qb has them but Dak led the league Ints that were not his fault.

That means a hell of a lot.

But I will let the usual gaggle keep spouting their nonsense.

So do you have some proof of that or is is just more Jerry spin?

 

[glimmerman]

I think even if a receiver runs a wrong route, gets bumped...or "runs behind the db" or "coached told him to throw that"..

QB has to have the awareness and intellect to NOT...throw it!

Yes I am aware of "timing routes". There are some subtilties laypersons are not aware of. These are the kind of things an elite QB KNOWS...and an average QB does anyway.

Well anyway...um er....we ARE gonna see if HC can get a hold of this and straighten it out. Fix the o line coach! It broke.

He tried to hire his buddy first to be the O-Line coach and he wasn’t a good fit. The new staff is power blocking coaching. Allows these guys up front to be aggressive. Dak needs to use his feet more this year. He don’t have to always take off with it, he and the rest of us know running QBs don’t last long. Daks injury was kind of a fluke but the more you run it the more plays like that can happen. He needs to take off when it’s there and get down. But can also use it to buy time on longer routes. He is good at throwing on the run. Move him around. If we play to his strengths we can win it all. I know some don’t believe it or want him to fail. We should draft a QB every year or every other year to bring up.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He tried to hire his buddy first to be the O-Line coach and he wasn’t a good fit. The new staff is power blocking coaching. Allows these guys up front to be aggressive. Dak needs to use his feet more this year. He don’t have to always take off with it, he and the rest of us know running QBs don’t last long. Daks injury was kind of a fluke but the more you run it the more plays like that can happen. He needs to take off when it’s there and get down. But can also use it to buy time on longer routes. He is good at throwing on the run. Move him around. If we play to his strengths we can win it all. I know some don’t believe it or want him to fail. We should draft a QB every year or every other year to bring up.

Agreed...."using his feet" doesn't necessary mean a qb run.

I also agree we certainly can win with him. Play to his strengths and don;t make him something he isn't.

 

[McKDaddy]

No matter how each individual play is judged as far as fault, bad break, whatever, it's not a good situation when your best course of action is to remove the QB from the equation as much as possible.

 

[Ken]

So do you have some proof of that or is is just more Jerry spin?

His 8th was the game ending int that Brown flailed...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Got ‘em!!!!!!

 

[MikeT22]

I dont have a point really. Just wanted to see the reality of the picks. AS far as the picks, yah they need to be reduced. But Dak isnt known for picks so Im really not worried about it. Up until this year, he was great with the lack of picks.

But if we are looking for a reason as to why I think it makes some sense. Cooper gone. Gallup had no preseason or offseason with Dak. Brown was new to the increased roll. Gallup was out the first 5 games and Shultz was out for 4 of the first 5. I think it makes sense he was not on the same page with some of these guys as he should be and now he is forcing things into Lamb with a new role as the true #1. There was a lot of turnover at the WR position.

There was a lot of turnovers at the QB position.

 

[DFWJC]

well, another pointless Dak thread, another melee

 

[glimmerman]

Agreed...."using his feet" doesn't necessary mean a qb run.

I also agree we certainly can win with him. Play to his strengths and don;t make him something he isn't.

I think MM has seen enough to know what Dak is and how to use him. Give him the run game and WR with quick routes and not come back routes.. That with a really good Defense and descent ST and we go far.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I counted 10 that were on Dak. But honestly I may have lost count. It's hard to watch that. It's also an exercise in futility because every QB has interceptions that are caused by there receivers/tipped balls.

 

[Beaker42]

I would say a mix. Some were bad reads/ decisions/ throws. Some bricked off the receivers hands. Some were bad routes. Some were good plays by the defense.

Like I said in a previous post - he should’ve had about 6 more. He tried to give the Niners another one in the red zone and the guy just dropped it. It was right to him.

 

[Beaker42]

I counted 10 that were on Dak. But honestly I may have lost count. It's hard to watch that. It's also an exercise in futility because every QB has interceptions that are caused by there receivers/tipped balls.

Most of Dak’s aren’t that issue - he simply stares his guys down and then makes an inaccurate throw on top of that.