Just say no if he's there at 26

[Carter]

There is not a chance he makes it Past 15 let alone 20

 

[Manster_Mash]

So what if he doesn't get a 2nd contract! So what??

If your scouts think he's the best player, then you take him. Plain and simple. Give me a Pro-bowl player for 4 or 5 years and then a 4th round comp when you let him walk. In this day and age in the NFL, your goal should not be to give out 2nd contracts in the first place.

Jaylon Smith got a 2nd contract, was he a better pick in the 2nd round than Elliott??

 

[jnday]

I have no idea why anyone would want to draft a running back in the first round? In today's NFL you want longevity with your first pick and drafting a running back isn't it. It's very rare that an NFL running back is going to have the same impact and effectiveness during his second contract (if he even gets one) like he did in his first. There are so many better options there so if the Cowboys were smart in the first round (they've done very well here btw) they will pass on Bijan Robinson, who is a very good running back but the Cowboys will do so much better in the long run with an offensive lineman. Connor McGovern's spot hasn't been filled so an O-line at 26 would make a lot of sense, especially with all the good O-lineman that they've drafted in the past in the first round then maybe take a running back on day two or three.

If the team had a top 15 pick, you would have a point. Usually the team only has first round grades on 20 or so players. If the top RB is still on the board towards the end of the first round, they should draft him. Zeke soured a lot of fans after they saw his production decline these last few years, but there are RBs that are well worth drafting in the late first round. Any and all players that are drafted in the first round are a risk . That just comes with the job.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

probably not but i can listen to the argument that the following do the same or similar.
Gibbs
Charbonett
Achenae
We could use the trenches for sure but if we can get those in 2,3 and 4 and pick up Bijon in 1 Ill be happy

Gibbs would be a nice addition but his size worries me. I've said I'm not opposed to drafting a RB in the first round, but it would need to be a complete player, ie pass blocking, route running, exceptional hands, etc. Bijon checks the boxes, not sure I can say the same about Gibbs. Doubt he lasts till the end of the second.

Achane is an interesting prospect and watching his film, I couldn't help but think Darren McFadden. Not overly elusive, but deceptively nimble, fast, exceptional balance, field awareness, and I like his power. Plays bigger than his size. Wouldn't put him in the same category as Robinson, but wouldn't be upset if they brought him in after early additions to the interior line.

I'm going back and forth on Charbonnet. On one hand I see a guy with good speed and power, good size, and the ability to do it all. On the other I'm seeing a guy with stiff hips and a not so great initial burst. Not as fast as the other guys listed, and doesn't bring as much of the wow factor. Much of his highlight reel consists of running through wide open holes against inferior pac defenses and making a single cut to daylight. He could be a great player, but I'm not sure how his game translates to the NFL, where defenders are bigger, faster, and stronger than he is.

Another guy I'm starting to really like is Israel Abanakanda. Haven't watched much film on him buy may do so this weekend. The kid is smooth as silk. Playing for Pitt, he received comparisons to Tony Dorsett, and it seems they are well deserved. It wouldn't break my heart at all if he's the pick.

 

[cowboyec]

i want a helluva player regardless of position.
bijan robinson is a helluva player.
i'd have 0 problem if he is the pick.

 

[CCBoy]

kskboy posted this jewel:

Find a starting RB in later rounds. 26 of 32 teams found their starting RB in rounds 1-3. 20 of 32 came from rounds 1 and 2.

This idea that RBs can easily be found in rounds 4-7 is quite incorrect. Most RBs taken there bust.

Come out of thee 1st with at least Gibbs.



Next...At the end of the day, you can never have too much CB depth, and signing Brown for the veteran minimum would give Quinn five dependable corners, including Trevon Diggs, Stephon Gilmore, DaRon Bland and Jourdan Lewis.

thelandryhat.com/posts/3-bargain-free-agents-cowboys-sign-before-nfl-draft--fleming-brown-evans-01gycy7vd8kt/3?dicbo=v2-bdOUfKA


Dallas has $13.14 million in cap space with days remaining before the NFL Draft, according to Over the Cap. Some $8 million of that will be used to sign their incoming draft class, which gives them a shade over $5 million to doll out before next Thursday.

thelandryhat.com/posts/3-bargain-free-agents-cowboys-sign-before-nfl-draft--fleming-brown-evans-01gycy7vd8kt?dicbo=v2-bdOUfKA

 

[jrumann59]

Like I have siad in the past completely dumb to take RB in the top half of the 1st round because they are "disposable" by years 5-7, in the bottom of the 1st round if a RB is you top rated player and you have the need, Dallas has a need, then you take him. With the understanding in 4 years you may want to think about a replacement.

 

[CCBoy]

Like I have siad in the past completely dumb to take RB in the top half of the 1st round because they are "disposable" by years 5-7, in the bottom of the 1st round if a RB is you top rated player and you have the need, Dallas has a need, then you take him. With the understanding in 4 years you may want to think about a replacement.

Do you want to win or just show up for work?

 

[CCBoy]

Three teams who might pick a running back:

1. Philadelphia - 10
2. Detroit - 18
3. Chargers - 21

 

[Established1971]

I have no idea why anyone would want to draft a running back in the first round? In today's NFL you want longevity with your first pick and drafting a running back isn't it. It's very rare that an NFL running back is going to have the same impact and effectiveness during his second contract (if he even gets one) like he did in his first. There are so many better options there so if the Cowboys were smart in the first round (they've done very well here btw) they will pass on Bijan Robinson, who is a very good running back but the Cowboys will do so much better in the long run with an offensive lineman. Connor McGovern's spot hasn't been filled so an O-line at 26 would make a lot of sense, especially with all the good O-lineman that they've drafted in the past in the first round then maybe take a running back on day two or three.

Jonathan Taylor and Kenneth Walker recently going in round 2. Those guys are old school first half of first round pix. Agree you dont take a rb in round 1 anymore

 

[jrumann59]

Do you want to win or just show up for work?

What does that mean? You are winning either way. All running backs if they break out in their initial contract will be expensive on their second 1. If the best player falls to you in the draft and you have a need take him if you don't want him trade the pick.

 

[jrumann59]

I have no idea why anyone would want to draft a running back in the first round? In today's NFL you want longevity with your first pick and drafting a running back isn't it. It's very rare that an NFL running back is going to have the same impact and effectiveness during his second contract (if he even gets one) like he did in his first. There are so many better options there so if the Cowboys were smart in the first round (they've done very well here btw) they will pass on Bijan Robinson, who is a very good running back but the Cowboys will do so much better in the long run with an offensive lineman. Connor McGovern's spot hasn't been filled so an O-line at 26 would make a lot of sense, especially with all the good O-lineman that they've drafted in the past in the first round then maybe take a running back on day two or three.

Because if he is good you have at least 5 years on a draft slot based salary. If he is not good he walks year 4. Outside of that all players that are worth something will be expensive their 2nd contract. Some 4th round RB will walk come year 3 or 4, either way the team has to decide its philosophy on RB, do you draft new ones every 3-4 years or do find a "special" one to keep around for the long haul

 

[CCBoy]

What does that mean? You are winning either way. All running backs if they break out in their initial contract will be expensive on their second 1. If the best player falls to you in the draft and you have a need take him if you don't want him trade the pick.

Simple English and it reasonably answered your stated direction...without an attached insult of intelligence.

Here's the current direction of negotiation of contracts:

Signing Prescott now also allows the team to free up money in the short-term to use on improving the team around him.

Followed by smart negotiated contracts for Tyler Biadasz; Trevon Diggs; and Cee Dee Lamb. If you are unable to figure individually why all four is relevant here and...we need no further discussions on thread topic.

The Cowboys currently have $5 M over funds for the draft.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-potential-extensions-2023/

 

[xwalker]

I have no idea why anyone would want to draft a running back in the first round? In today's NFL you want longevity with your first pick and drafting a running back isn't it. It's very rare that an NFL running back is going to have the same impact and effectiveness during his second contract (if he even gets one) like he did in his first. There are so many better options there so if the Cowboys were smart in the first round (they've done very well here btw) they will pass on Bijan Robinson, who is a very good running back but the Cowboys will do so much better in the long run with an offensive lineman. Connor McGovern's spot hasn't been filled so an O-line at 26 would make a lot of sense, especially with all the good O-lineman that they've drafted in the past in the first round then maybe take a running back on day two or three.

The primary value of draft picks occurs during their rookie contracts.
- They are salary cap management tools.
- Once they're ready for a 2nd contract, they don't come at a discount to the team that drafted them.

The real issue is that RBs are cheaper in free agency than other positions.

The top priority, especially in the 1st round, is to make a successful pick.
- DE is a higher value position than RB. Do you want Bijan or Taco?

 

[CCBoy]

The primary value of draft picks occurs during their rookie contracts.
- They are salary cap management tools.
- Once they're ready for a 2nd contract, they don't come at a discount to the team that drafted them.

The real issue is that RBs are cheaper in free agency than other positions.

The top priority, especially in the 1st round, is to make a successful pick.
- DE is a higher value position than RB. Do you want Bijan or Taco?

This draft I want 1. RB. Robinson or Gibbs or 2. G, Darnell Wright or O'Cyrus Torrence

I'll stick with those options...​

 

[Cowpolk]

I have no idea why anyone would want to draft a running back in the first round? In today's NFL you want longevity with your first pick and drafting a running back isn't it. It's very rare that an NFL running back is going to have the same impact and effectiveness during his second contract (if he even gets one) like he did in his first. There are so many better options there so if the Cowboys were smart in the first round (they've done very well here btw) they will pass on Bijan Robinson, who is a very good running back but the Cowboys will do so much better in the long run with an offensive lineman. Connor McGovern's spot hasn't been filled so an O-line at 26 would make a lot of sense, especially with all the good O-lineman that they've drafted in the past in the first round then maybe take a running back on day two or three.

There are more teams in the NFL that would draft him than there are teams that would pass on him it is the way it works A real GM would draft him only an armchair GM would pass on him

 

[Hadenough]

Yea sure.....so we can pass over him and the eagles get him late in the first.....so then he turns out to be a great runningback as advertised and this board will light up!!!!!!....and blame front office again for being A-holes for passing up a talent like Bijan.....we could of....should of....had him when we fell that far down.....imagine that.

Won't be the first time or the last. Dallas passed on Rodgers, Steven Jackson, Randy Moss, TJ Watt and those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.

 

[fansince68]

If he's there at 26, I wouldn't have an aneurism if we took him. He's a top player who will give us some great play for a bunch of years. I do like building the trenches however, so either way I am happy. There is never a guarantee that who you would pick instead of him would be a lock for 10 years of good to great play.

Agreed. Wasn't Taco Charleton selected around pick 26?

 

[starfan1]

Three teams who might pick a running back:

1. Philadelphia - 10
2. Detroit - 18
3. Chargers 21

Did I see that Philly may be in the hunt for king Henry?

 

[CCBoy]

Did I see that Philly may be in the hunt for king Henry?

If Robinson is there at 10, they would be truly fools not to take him...and the media is starting to see his addition and what it would mean for the Eagles. That, or stupid is as stupid does...