Kansas City Chiefs center Creed Humphrey believes Cooper Beebe will be great for Dallas Cowboys

[gimmesix]

One day you will see it. Then you can come up with another theory.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but the evidence is against it.

 

[rambo2]

I'd love to be proven wrong, but the evidence is against it.

There is no evidence until they start playing. Then you can up with your new theory.

 

[rambo2]

Kansas City does a combination of it all. The Chiefs brought in expensive free agents, traded players, drafted and used inexpensive free agents. The difference for us is that we bring in no expensive free agents. Again, if you look back at the Super Bowl teams for the past five, 10 years, you will find that all of them had expensive free agents on their Super Bowl rosters. That is part of the blueprint.

For example, before the 2023 season, the Chiefs signed Jacksonville LT Jawan Taylor for four years, $80 million, San Francisco DL Charles Omenihu for two years, $16 million and made other moves that were more typical of the moves we would have made. But the more expensive moves were to shore up areas that could have been weak links.

This year's Chiefs added Hendershot and Scott from the Cowboys.

 

[gimmesix]

There is no evidence until they start playing. Then you can up with your new theory.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[gimmesix]

This year's Chiefs added Hendershot and Scott from the Cowboys.

They also signed Marquise Brown for one year, $11 million. Not all "high-priced" moves are equal, though, so we'll see how it works out. The Chiefs are the Super Bowl champions, so they have less moves they have to make to stay on top than we have to make to climb the hill and get on top.

Dallas' strategy is to draft well, pay their own and fill gaps with cheap free agents. No matter how you slice it, that has not been a successful strategy. We'll see how it goes this year, but I see no reason to expect anything different. I absolutely hope the team proves me wrong, and I'll enjoy every minute of it if they do.

 

[rambo2]

They also signed Marquise Brown for one year, $11 million. Not all "high-priced" moves are equal, though, so we'll see how it works out. The Chiefs are the Super Bowl champions, so they have less moves they have to make to stay on top than we have to make to climb the hill and get on top.

Dallas' strategy is to draft well, pay their own and fill gaps with cheap free agents. No matter how you slice it, that has not been a successful strategy. We'll see how it goes this year, but I see no reason to expect anything different. I absolutely hope the team proves me wrong, and I'll enjoy every minute of it if they do.

They also had Hollywood Brown get injured in a preseason game. Dallas could very well win in the playoffs this year and if they did they would not only have the best record this year, they would have the best record in the league over the last 4 years as well.

 

[gimmesix]

They also had Hollywood Brown get injured in a preseason game. Dallas could very well win in the playoffs this year and if they did they would not only have the best record this year, they would have the best record in the league over the last 4 years as well.

Having the best regular-season record is not what it's all about. Doing what it takes to get over the top is. If you feel the team has done that, then that's your belief. It is not shared by every fan. As I said, I'll believe it when I see it, and what that would be is making the NFC Championship Game at the very least this year. This team has done a good job of building a core through the draft (some may not feel that way, but you don't go 12-5 three straight years without doing that) but it does not supplement that core with key (and by nature, costly) free agent acquisitions. Meanwhile, other teams that were already better than us do that.

 

[rambo2]

Having the best regular-season record is not what it's all about. Doing what it takes to get over the top is. If you feel the team has done that, then that's your belief. It is not shared by every fan. As I said, I'll believe it when I see it, and what that would be is making the NFC Championship Game at the very least this year. This team has done a good job of building a core through the draft (some may not feel that way, but you don't go 12-5 three straight years without doing that) but it does not supplement that core with key (and by nature, costly) free agent acquisitions. Meanwhile, other teams that were already better than us do that.

They very well could get over the top this year. Anything can happen. They have a shot. They do have the talent to do it.

Having the best regular-season record is not what it's all about. Doing what it takes to get over the top is. If you feel the team has done that, then that's your belief. It is not shared by every fan. As I said, I'll believe it when I see it, and what that would be is making the NFC Championship Game at the very least this year. This team has done a good job of building a core through the draft (some may not feel that way, but you don't go 12-5 three straight years without doing that) but it does not supplement that core with key (and by nature, costly) free agent acquisitions. Meanwhile, other teams that were already better than us do that.

What teams are better? How much of a gap is there?

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Wow..what a hot take.

You mean that when another NFL player was asked about Beebe, said player didn't say "That guy SUCKS!. He'll never amount to anything!"

Shocking.

Humphrey probably has never even seen the guy play a down.

 

[gimmesix]

What teams are better? How much of a gap is there?

Green Bay spanked us in the playoffs, and the Packers were not even the top team in the NFC.

 

[rambo2]

Green Bay spanked us in the playoffs, and the Packers were not even the top team in the NFC.

That doesn't answer the question. They spanked a team without linebackers. The Cowboys now have linebackers. Again which teams are better and how big a gap is there?

 

[gimmesix]

That doesn't answer the question. They spanked a team without linebackers. The Cowboys now have linebackers. Again which teams are better and how big a gap is there?

How can anyone answer that question when no games have been played? Dallas was worse than Green Bay in the playoffs. Excuse it however you want, just like you'd have to do with San Francisco being better the previous two years. And the Cowboys' plan for improvement has been to draft, hold on to their own and spend very little in free agency, less than any other team. Doing that produces reasonable expectations that they did not catch up with the teams that have beaten them in the playoffs and have made a few big FA moves to improve (and some that were at least even with Dallas and have made big moves). I know you are an eternal optimist, but if you can't understand why that creates reasonable doubt in this team doing any better in the playoffs than it has, I'm not sure it's going to do anything for me to try to explain it to you. It's just a circular conversation.

Until Dallas makes full use of free agency, I do not expect the team to contend for titles. I expect the team to be in the playoffs again because it has a good core, but when they go against other teams with good cores, the weak links break. I hope that the team proves me wrong, but I'm not going to expect it to happen. If you do, then I obviously hope your vision of this team turns out to be the true one. I don't think it will be, but we'll see.

 

[DuncanIso]

CooperBB

 

[rambo2]

CooperBB

Hopefully, for many years to come.

 

[rambo2]

How can anyone answer that question when no games have been played? Dallas was worse than Green Bay in the playoffs. Excuse it however you want, just like you'd have to do with San Francisco being better the previous two years. And the Cowboys' plan for improvement has been to draft, hold on to their own and spend very little in free agency, less than any other team. Doing that produces reasonable expectations that they did not catch up with the teams that have beaten them in the playoffs and have made a few big FA moves to improve (and some that were at least even with Dallas and have made big moves). I know you are an eternal optimist, but if you can't understand why that creates reasonable doubt in this team doing any better in the playoffs than it has, I'm not sure it's going to do anything for me to try to explain it to you. It's just a circular conversation.

Until Dallas makes full use of free agency, I do not expect the team to contend for titles. I expect the team to be in the playoffs again because it has a good core, but when they go against other teams with good cores, the weak links break. I hope that the team proves me wrong, but I'm not going to expect it to happen. If you do, then I obviously hope your vision of this team turns out to be the true one. I don't think it will be, but we'll see.

I suspect that there are 3 other teams that could possibly win the NFC. They are the 49ers, Lions, and Eagles and that's it. Injuries will knock out 3 of the 4 and the lucky one will make it to the finals.

 

[gimmesix]

Ive seen both him and Hoffman with the first team, but I haven't seen an official announcement that Beebe won the starting position

In case you still haven't seen it: https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cooper-beebe-ready-to-give-everything-in-debut

 

[fivetwos]

Overrated?

The guy took over teams that were real bad before he got there and turned them all around.

Took over the giants and won 2 SBs - one of them with the back-up QB...

Took over the Pats got them to a SB...

Took over the Jets who were 1-15 the year before and in his first year as HC got them to 9-7, the next year went 12-4 and went to the AFCCG - thats a humungous turnaround...

Took over the Cowboys turned around a team that was 5-11 3 years in a row - left a play-off team, solid core and a franchise QB..

Overrated?

For me, Parcells’ career speaks more about the difficulty of winning a SB even if you’re a great team builder and motivator.

He won in 86 legit. They were the best team all along and peaked in the end, but he was one very makeable FG away from only having that one.

I don’t blame Jerry for not winning a SB while he was running it all, I blame him for not even coming close, as well as some very heartbreaking playoff defeats due to the team not being ready. His ego made some odd coaching choices.

 

[chagus]

I hope Beebe will turn out great. I'm really looking forward to our new o line taking shape. We have to wait until a couple of reg season games have been played, but so far it looks like they have done a really nice job with bringing in the next generation of great trench men. I hope they'll play Martin and Beebe at the same time every now and then.

Why wouldnt they play Martin and Beebe at the same time?

 

[fivetwos]

How can anyone answer that question when no games have been played? Dallas was worse than Green Bay in the playoffs. Excuse it however you want, just like you'd have to do with San Francisco being better the previous two years. And the Cowboys' plan for improvement has been to draft, hold on to their own and spend very little in free agency, less than any other team. Doing that produces reasonable expectations that they did not catch up with the teams that have beaten them in the playoffs and have made a few big FA moves to improve (and some that were at least even with Dallas and have made big moves). I know you are an eternal optimist, but if you can't understand why that creates reasonable doubt in this team doing any better in the playoffs than it has, I'm not sure it's going to do anything for me to try to explain it to you. It's just a circular conversation.

Until Dallas makes full use of free agency, I do not expect the team to contend for titles. I expect the team to be in the playoffs again because it has a good core, but when they go against other teams with good cores, the weak links break. I hope that the team proves me wrong, but I'm not going to expect it to happen. If you do, then I obviously hope your vision of this team turns out to be the true one. I don't think it will be, but we'll see.

It’s amazing to me that they remain that stubborn to where change isn’t as much as considered.

Do they think the criticism is going to get better as the drought increases? It won’t, but they still want to take half measures. I’m not saying pull a Rams deal, but an extra nice starting player or two could have made all the difference.

If this draft hits the way it appears it might, and assuming they retain Prescott, with a reasonably good off-season they could have a 2-3 year window to advance at least a little further in the postseason. That would be the third different window under Prescott. If it doesn’t happen then….I just don’t know what to think as a fan anymore.

 

[gimmesix]

It’s amazing to me that they remain that stubborn to where change isn’t as much as considered.

Do they think the criticism is going to get better as the drought increases? It won’t, but they still want to take half measures. I’m not saying pull a Rams deal, but an extra nice starting player or two could have made all the difference.

If this draft hits the way it appears it might, and assuming they retain Prescott, with a reasonably good off-season they could have a 2-3 year window to advance at least a little further in the postseason. That would be the third different window under Prescott. If it doesn’t happen then….I just don’t know what to think as a fan anymore.

I could live with a Rams deal, even if it didn't work and resulted in a rebuild, because at least then we would have tried something, anything different to break the drought. I don't think it is necessary to go to that extreme, though. A couple of top FAs may have been enough to push us over the top, to break that barrier.