Keep an eye on Mike Zimmer this offseason!

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Jones could see his HC/OC choices as

Zimmer/Schottenheimer - no major changes to offense or defense

Moore/Zimmer - again, no major changes to scheme

This would keep Jerry comfortable
 

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he'll be back as mccarthy's def coord.
too much noise about mccarthy coming back to dismiss it.
as long as the gm is back...it doesn't really matter.
 

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It would be insane to bring Zimmer back after this performance.

But yeah, Jerry knows him. And he no longer gives a **** what fans think. So he probably will being him back as either DC or HC
 

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Jones could see his HC/OC choices as

Zimmer/Schottenheimer - no major changes to offense or defense

Moore/Zimmer - again, no major changes to scheme

This would keep Jerry comfortable
Fully expect option number 2.

If they think next year is a wash, I can see them selling Moore as something to be excited about, meanwhile he's a placeholder coach while we tank the year who doesn't challenge Jerry or the way he runs things.
 

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It certainly would be on brand with how the Joneses do business.

1. Comfortability
2. Cheap
3. Retread

Hired
you just described more than half the league the carousel for coaches this is normal I mean why would the University of North Carolina hire Bill Belichick how is he gonna connect with young players??

Most of the NFL do the exact same thing they're very little new coaches or up and coming coaches or coaches pull from college inserted into the NFL it literally is a carousel of retreads all around the NFL we're not the first ones to do this I mean where was he coaching before 'cause Mike Zimmer was the coach of the Minnesota Vikings and he's been in other places is this not the first place he's came back to and all GM's would look for a little comfort when you hire somebody you need to be comfortable with them I don't know anybody in the world that doesn't interview and it's like completely uncomfortable and by the way cheap I I would not call with a pay coach is cheap he paid Dan Quinn big time money to stay on here for as long as he did....

But that's OK 'cause guess what I get to laugh at everyone of you 'cause you have no choice you don't get to choose anything about the Dallas Cowboys you have 0 control So what are you gonna do just complain 24/7 365 or just find another team I'm gonna have to say this for a very long time over the next 5 months and yeah I remember the thread somebody started about not saying that I'm saying it if this bothers you this deeply you probably should move on to another team 'cause it's not gonna change...

Let me be clear the Jones family will own this team at least another decade maybe two maybe 3 so if this stuff bothers you so much and you think every offseason is predictable free agencies gonna be bad you know rinse and repeat then why are you even bother with it you can just go on go find you a team does it perfectly you know the ones in the Super bowl every year oh that's right there aren't many the ones winning a lot in the playoffs oh that's right there aren't many so you only have very little to choose from who's the new flavor of the month I don't know it's Kansas City about to be on the downside but you might wanna hit your ride to that...
 

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We heard the Cowboys wanted to hire Zimmer as the team's HC last cycle, but the Vikings wouldn't let him interview. In my opinion, he is the leading candidate to replace MM. He also has ties with Sanders, as he work as an consultant under him. Could also see Sanders hired as the new HC with Zimmer staying on as his DC.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Mike will say there's a MUTUAL agreement to not return, and the Cowboys will lazily name Zim the new coach
 

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BB was my first choice, but cannot overlook how the Jones Family operates.
J. Slater broke down their approach to coaching on the podcast a few weeks ago. The template is there. Parcells is the one outlier since Jimmy left.
 

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J. Slater broke down their approach to coaching on the podcast a few weeks ago. The template is there. Parcells is the one outlier since Jimmy left.
So why is it a guy like John Harbaugh not considered a retread went to college came back he's pushing 7 years old and the chargers must have been feeling real comfortable you do realize this happens all over and by the way Mike McCarthy was the best hire in 2020 all those coaches were gone within three years and they were not good at all you remember all the talk about all those guys who went to all those teams that we should've got over McCarthy show me one of them that were actually better than 36 games two division titles, and three straight playoff appearances working with Jerry Jones in a division by the way with Howie Roseman and he did beat that dude in that team twice as far as the division goes he must be competing some way with very limited resources...

so we got to remember the Jones family or what they're working with here how come Mike McCarthy had done much better outside I don't like him as an OC but as a head coach he was the best hire out of the entire what 8 hires in 2020 show me the one that was better show me,... I mean you act like the rest of the NFL don't have these problems it's the same when people talk about the quarterback like it's so easy just to dial up and find you a new generation of franchise quarterback this is what sports are there's no blueprint you're taking a risk every time you think Ben Johnson's going to be a lock somewhere you want to have a bet about that like 3 years from now you want to see where Ben Johnson is? I'm just saying there's no blueprint there's always risk I've seen guys who were totally in love with bringing Myers here Saban , petrino ,and Chip Kelly oh these changes are dipping into the big-time pool in college they're going outside the retread and what happened?

I mean I don't feel like doing this but I guarantee we go back to 2020 up until now look at all the new hires in the last four years in the NFL and you're going to find a bunch of retreads guys like Peterson get fired from Philly and goes to the Jags was he better with the Jaguars and Mike's been here again look at what he's working with?

By the way how does Cincinnati not fire their coaching staff and hire more GM and like on a regular basis because what have they done I mean literally what have they done in their history but that coach has a losing record starts every season really slow goes through the same little process and yeah he still has a job..


A majority of the NFL does the same thing you act like the Cowboys are on like an island and the things they do no other team does it it's the other way around these teams who are super aggressive who do this all in attitude who make all these moves all the time they're very few the rest of them do business just like the Joneses they run it like a business and they all make mistakes they all got the same issues..

I'm not promoting Mike McCarthy or the Jones family I'm just telling you big picture perspective stop putting Jerry on an island without all the other contacts there are lots of teams that do the same exact thing....
 

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Zimmer worked under Parcells.
Apparently there's a lot of people around here that believe the Cowboys are the only team that operate like this and that no other team hires retreads hires older coaching Staffs and somehow do a better job and I'm trying to figure out over the last five years that Mike McCarthy's been here show me since 2020 all the head coaches that were hired and who was better and who still has a job because I know in 2020 if you now have hindsight he was the best coaching hire that year so apparently when you add up the fact that Mike McCarthy has to work with the Jones family he's very limited you have to at least as a head coach give him some kind of credit he's got a lot here didn't even zoom up the Dallas Cowboys win percentage list like he literally has played enough games to now be in....d win percentage here let me go check..

".Landry is the team's all-time leader in games coached and wins, and Mike McCarthy leads all coaches in regular season winning percentage with . 627. Dave Campo is the only Cowboys coach with a losing record (. 313), and is also the only coach in franchise history to have never posted a winning season."
 

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Apparently there's a lot of people around here that believe the Cowboys are the only team that operate like this and that no other team hires retreads hires older coaching Staffs and somehow do a better job and I'm trying to figure out over the last five years that Mike McCarthy's been here show me since 2020 all the head coaches that were hired and who was better and who still has a job because I know in 2020 if you now have hindsight he was the best coaching hire that year so apparently when you add up the fact that Mike McCarthy has to work with the Jones family he's very limited you have to at least as a head coach give him some kind of credit he's got a lot here didn't even zoom up the Dallas Cowboys win percentage list like he literally has played enough games to now be in....d win percentage here let me go check..

".Landry is the team's all-time leader in games coached and wins, and Mike McCarthy leads all coaches in regular season winning percentage with . 627. Dave Campo is the only Cowboys coach with a losing record (. 313), and is also the only coach in franchise history to have never posted a winning season."
That would be interesting to look at. MM has performed well, but could never get this team to breakthrough. Some of his him and his coaching staff, but also the front office.

They went into last search looking for an experience HC with a winning resume as they didn't want to go through the growing pains hiring a 1st time HC like Jason Garrett. If you remember Marvin Lewis was their 1st interview.

When you read the tea leaves, Zimmer is close with the Jones Family, his defense has improved as the season progressed despite all the injuries, has a HC track record with the Vikings.
 

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That would be interesting to look at. MM has performed well, but could never get this team to breakthrough. Some of his him and his coaching staff, but also the front office.

They went into last search looking for an experience HC with a winning resume as they didn't want to go through the growing pains hiring a 1st time HC like Jason Garrett. If you remember Marvin Lewis was their 1st interview.

When you read the tea leaves, Zimmer is close with the Jones Family, his defense has improved as the season progressed despite all the injuries, has a HC track record with the Vikings.
Well it probably won't matter if we don't have a better offseason you know little bit better free agency and hit on some really good draft picks I mean we need pretty much best player available in every round if this becomes another bad offseason and have another bunch of injuries it's not gonna matter who's coaching...

And you know they're gonna take all that into account right like literally Mike McCarthy like 2020 went through about 18 injuries at minimum I don't know how many names were out and for how long they were out but it was insane how many players were losing and keep losing it's a terrible year for injuries it feels just like 2020...

Jerry's gonna look at this and go well after 2020 we won 36 games two division titles and went to the playoffs three straight years when we were healthy..

I realize everybody's come back for that is going to be yeah but the first five games we were relatively healthy and we didn't play well yeah but usually if you keep those top players each week you find a way to dig your way out and then you get on a roll you can't do that when you got guys dropping every game...

So unfortunately we may be back with Mike McCarthy maybe he's forced to have a better offensive staff maybe it is Mike Zimmer I mean I don't know but all I'm worried about right now is what are we going to do in the offseason and really #13 I mean over so that's the biggest hit this year the dude may not be back at all next year this is one of those where he got hurt late in the year a 12 month recovery at minimum he might come back in week 10 next year if that that means the draft changes literally went from yeah we need to add some depth at linebacker outside linebacker and pass rush but now it may be a priority in the first round...

That's a huge blow to this defense having Parsons and Overshown together along with a smart middle linebacker like Kendricks has changed his defense and now he's gone that's a huge blow...maybe Liafu takes step, i got abdul carter high on the 1st round list. Someone like him anyway,, #11 from penn st hmmm :))
 

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Watch what? Have our corners play 8-10 yards off the WR when they need 6 for a first down!
oh oh and get this, after being that far back, and when the WR gets that 6 yards, these CB's are SUPPOSED to be able to make the tackle to stop them from getting the first down!!! Do you realllllllly expect that we have good tackling cb's??? Hell no, the whole thought of having our CB's line up so far is sooooo stupid!!!
 

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Well it probably won't matter if we don't have a better offseason you know little bit better free agency and hit on some really good draft picks I mean we need pretty much best player available in every round if this becomes another bad offseason and have another bunch of injuries it's not gonna matter who's coaching...

And you know they're gonna take all that into account right like literally Mike McCarthy like 2020 went through about 18 injuries at minimum I don't know how many names were out and for how long they were out but it was insane how many players were losing and keep losing it's a terrible year for injuries it feels just like 2020...

Jerry's gonna look at this and go well after 2020 we won 36 games two division titles and went to the playoffs three straight years when we were healthy..

I realize everybody's come back for that is going to be yeah but the first five games we were relatively healthy and we didn't play well yeah but usually if you keep those top players each week you find a way to dig your way out and then you get on a roll you can't do that when you got guys dropping every game...

So unfortunately we may be back with Mike McCarthy maybe he's forced to have a better offensive staff maybe it is Mike Zimmer I mean I don't know but all I'm worried about right now is what are we going to do in the offseason and really #13 I mean over so that's the biggest hit this year the dude may not be back at all next year this is one of those where he got hurt late in the year a 12 month recovery at minimum he might come back in week 10 next year if that that means the draft changes literally went from yeah we need to add some depth at linebacker outside linebacker and pass rush but now it may be a priority in the first round...

That's a huge blow to this defense having Parsons and Overshown together along with a smart middle linebacker like Kendricks has changed his defense and now he's gone that's a huge blow...maybe Liafu takes step, i got abdul carter high on the 1st round list. Someone like him anyway,, #11 from penn st hmmm :))
I cannot envision MM returning, he is responsible for the offense and they were playing badly even before the injuries took place with Dak/OL.

Read the posts on the draft zone, we have been diving into it for a few weeks already.
 

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I cannot envision MM returning, he is responsible for the offense and they were playing badly even before the injuries took place with Dak/OL.

Read the posts on the draft zone, we have been diving into it for a few weeks already.
According to Jerry and others we're looking great and do what championship teams are doing
 
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