Keep hearing certain people in the media say Dak is succeeding because of the RB and O-line

CowboysFanSince88 said:
I disagree because if you are a running threat as a QB, then that opens up things for the receivers. Dak can buy time and run when needed which makes the TE and WR's able to get open since the defense is worrying about dak running.
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Totally agree. The threat he poses as a runner even opens stuff up for Zeke. Defenses have to honor Dak's feet and can't just come crashing down on run plays or losing contain in pass rush. Couple that with his decision making and his ever improving abilities as a passer (an evolution that started back at MSU) and you have the perfect makings of the modern QB. His abilities and leadership make everyone around him better and kudos to him for taking full advantage of his supporting cast when other recent predecessors (outside of Tony) could not. I'm loving the kid. Along with the fact that we may have the best backup QB in football in another couple weeks. Incredibly blessed.
 
So by this logic....then Trevor Simeoin or Paxton Lynch should also be tearing it up for Denver as they were world champs and have good offensive weapons...oh wait.....
 
Sydla said:
No offense, but you are insane.

There is no way he'd be the 2nd rated QB in QBR with the Eagles offensive talent.

This isn't meant to slight Prescott or call him overrated. But the fact is, it makes it easier for Prescott to succeed because of the talent we have on offense. Anyone suggesting otherwise is just too Dak'd up IMO.
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You can say that for every single pro-bowl QB that's played the game. This argument is completely flawed.
 
dallasfan4lizife said:
So when did this team become so talented all around? This was a 1-11 team without a QB last year. Get real smh.

The QB play has a huge part in the 7-1 record, don't fool yourself.
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That's what I've been saying too. Put lesser player in th mix and the supporting cast looks more pedestrian. Same sort of shade thrown back in Emmitt's day but none of our other backs back then could do what he did behind that dominant line. While Zeke's contribution should not be minimized (his type of talent wasn't here last year and that is a huge difference), but Dak is the one stirring the drink rt now.
 
dallasfan4lizife said:
You can say that for every single pro-bowl QB that's played the game. This argument is completely flawed.
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Of course you can. Most pro bowl QBs have had good talent around them. Most elite QBs usually had elite talent around them.

But people are borderline insane if they think Prescott isn't being helped by the fact he has an elite OL and top flight weapons. Again, there isn't a chance in hell he'd be having a season like he's having if he had Philly's OL and was throwing to Green-Beckhem and Nelson Agholor.

You people are taking this as some sort of slam on Prescott. It's not. He's a great QB. But he's obviously benefitting from having elite offensive talent around him.
 
Sydla said:
Of course you can. Most pro bowl QBs have had good talent around them. Most elite QBs usually had elite talent around them.

But people are borderline insane if they think Prescott isn't being helped by the fact he has an elite OL and top flight weapons. Again, there isn't a chance in hell he'd be having a season like he's having if he had Philly's OL and was throwing to Green-Beckhem and Nelson Agholor.

You people are taking this as some sort of slam on Prescott. It's not. He's a great QB. But he's obviously benefitting from having elite offensive talent around him.
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It's a synergistic relationship between everyone on the offense. One position needs the other to be successful. Last year, Dak was the missing cog. So I won't discredit his QB play through 8 games in the season because of the talent around him.
 
dallasfan4lizife said:
It's a synergistic relationship between everyone on the offense. One position needs the other to be successful. Last year, Dak was the missing cog. So I won't discredit his QB play through 8 games in the season because of the talent around him.
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No one is discrediting his play. This is just insecurity on the part of some of you.

It's very simple. He's playing great. It also helps that he has an elite OL and some of the best group of weapons in the NFL.

Would he be ranked #2 in QBR if he was playing for the Eagles right now?
 
Zeke is leading the league in rushing.
I'd say he is helping.

If anyone doesn't think he is a huge upgrade from Joe (underwear theif) Randle and McFadden, they need their head examined.

BTW, the dominant run game and o-line played a large role in Romo's success in 2014 as well. This applies to all QBs.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
Had a great line last year along with the league's 9th best rushing attack (which was 6th in ypc average) and was 10th in the league in time of possession.

Last I looked there were 4 wins in 16 games.

It ain't just the offensive line and the running game.
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Dak outside of a few games is playing well.

But how many qbs have the best line in football and elite play making out of the slot, te , rb and wr positions?

We are all excited about Dak but to ignore his environment is silly.

For a guy still mastering his footwork imagine if he didn't routinely have an eternity to throw and often to wide open players battling single coverage?
 
Sydla said:
Of course you can. Most pro bowl QBs have had good talent around them. Most elite QBs usually had elite talent around them.

But people are borderline insane if they think Prescott isn't being helped by the fact he has an elite OL and top flight weapons. Again, there isn't a chance in hell he'd be having a season like he's having if he had Philly's OL and was throwing to Green-Beckhem and Nelson Agholor.

You people are taking this as some sort of slam on Prescott. It's not. He's a great QB. But he's obviously benefitting from having elite offensive talent around him.
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No one was mentioning Philly's Oline in September when they were 3-0
 
MichaelWinicki said:
Exactly right.

Have some of those folks as forum members.
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We also have folks as forum members who can't over the fact that Zeke and the run game may be the difference, that an effective run game is that important o_O
 
Gabe said:
They are actually succeeding because of Dak. How quickly everyone forgets 4-12 last year. Let's also not forget Dak played almost flawlessly without Dez and with Chaz Green at LT.

It's pretty much all Dak. The only people who don't see it that way choose not to. Nothing will convince them otherwise.
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Dak and Zeke, yes. This is still fundamentally the same team that went 4-12 last season. The difference? The two rookies. If anyone could succeed on this team, we wouldn't have gone 4-12 last season.
 
It's a team game. Actually, the ultimate team game.

Dak makes those around him better. Those around him make Dak better.

His role is most scrutinized because he's the QB. He's done a fantastic job, and look forward to a long, successful career as the Cowboys QB. Given that, I've seen some good QB's regress ...
 
TheCount said:
What few games has he played badly in? I'll spot you the Eagles.
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I'd say Giants and Eagles, though the Giants should have an disclaimer, being that it was his first ever real game. Even then, it wasn't truly terrible
25-45, 0 and 0. 69 QB rating

The kid has been really good, plain and simple.
 
It's true.
There's nothing wrong with that. Ask Elway.

With that said.... Dak is making things happen.

Dak is no bus driver. He is in a beta version race car.
 
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