Kellen Moore listed as No. 2 quarterback

Diehardblues

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We all know if something happens to Dak for an extended period of time Romo would most likely get the call. That's my sense anyway.
 

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c'mon, Rush isn't ready, they just wanted to stash him on the side for now...
 

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c'mon, Rush isn't ready, they just wanted to stash him on the side for now...

And if you look back @ the posts from 14 months ago, the same exact statement was made about Dak. If your opinion of Rush not being ready is based off of his preseason work, then the QB that isn't ready is Moore. I'm positive that Dak 'wasn't ready' when he got the call but he sure as heck got ready when he stepped on that field. The fact that Moore is taking away a roster spot, from someone who could actually help this team, is what disgusts me the most.
 

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And if you look back @ the posts from 14 months ago, the same exact statement was made about Dak. If your opinion of Rush not being ready is based off of his preseason work, then the QB that isn't ready is Moore. I'm positive that Dak 'wasn't ready' when he got the call but he sure as heck got ready when he stepped on that field. The fact that Moore is taking away a roster spot, from someone who could actually help this team, is what disgusts me the most.

Exactly right. And just as it was for Dak, the playbook could be adjusted to suit Rush as well. Simplify it and play to the strengths of your quarterback. And then gradually open it up more and add to it as your young player gets more comfortable. The same thing they did for Prescott.

There's no upside with Moore. He's not winning you any games and you're wasting valuable experience that could benefit a young player that needs the experience.

And I know some say that Moore could 'finish out a game' and then you'd play Rush going forward, but I have to ask, why bother? You're going to take up a valuable roster spot for a guy to 'finish out a game'? Moore couldn't win that game for you anyway.
 

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This keeps reminding me of:

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tsk tsk tsk .. Linehan cannot let go ... [smh]

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It is a good start to the year when most are focused on our backup QB before the first game. Me I am worried about the defensive backfield and middle linebacker.
 

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A decision like this is the reason why I want Jim Harbaugh to coach this team next year.

I been saying that since rumors started that he was on the way out in San Fran
Pretty sure we'd have a sixth ring by now. Heck he was one play away from a ring in San Fran with Krap at QB....not ironically the 49ers were a bottom feeder before and after him
 

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the cowboys are like most other teams in the nfl if there starting qb goes down for any length of time there season is over there are not enough starting qb's to go around much less back up ones
 

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How could you not see that coming?

I don't expect this to go on all season though IMO
 

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I been saying that since rumors started that he was on the way out in San Fran
Pretty sure we'd have a sixth ring by now. Heck he was one play away from a ring in San Fran with Krap at QB....not ironically the 49ers were a bottom feeder before and after him

I'm getting off subject in this thread but if Jason does not meet expectations this season Jerry needs to make a change. Then he needs to fly to Michigan and make Jim an offer he cannot refuse.

Jim Harbaugh is a strategic coach (which is lacking in the NFL in my opinion) and I would feel comfortable with him. Jim would also play to the team's strengths and hide their weaknesses. Case-in-point look at his game against the Gators last weekend. Michigan was losing and stayed with the run game (from the beginning to the end), played the best players and had his team play smart football.

Jim is what we need to go to the next level unless Jason can prove me wrong.
 

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Here's the pecking order:

1. Dak Prescott is the starting quarterback
2. Tony Romo is the No. 2 QB if Dak suffers a season-ending injury
3. Kellen Moore is the No. 2 QB if Dak gets hurt during a game or misses a game or two
4. Cooper Rush is the No. 3 QB, who would quickly be groomed for No. 2 if Dak is out for an extended period, but not the season.
 

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I'm getting off subject in this thread but if Jason does not meet expectations this season Jerry needs to make a change. Then he needs to fly to Michigan and make Jim an offer he cannot refuse.

Jim Harbaugh is a strategic coach (which is lacking in the NFL in my opinion) and I would feel comfortable with him. Jim would also play to the team's strengths and hide their weaknesses. Case-in-point look at his game against the Gators last weekend. Michigan was losing and stayed with the run game (from the beginning to the end), played the best players and had his team play smart football.

Jim is what we need to go to the next level unless Jason can prove me wrong.

This 100...1000%
 

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And if you look back @ the posts from 14 months ago, the same exact statement was made about Dak. If your opinion of Rush not being ready is based off of his preseason work, then the QB that isn't ready is Moore. I'm positive that Dak 'wasn't ready' when he got the call but he sure as heck got ready when he stepped on that field. The fact that Moore is taking away a roster spot, from someone who could actually help this team, is what disgusts me the most.
Huge difference.

Dak played with and against hundreds and hundreds of NFL-level talent in the SEC. Cooper Rush played with and against a bunch of future insurance agents and Home Depot employees. He took the Romo route.

Yes, this is the easiest offense in the NFL for a rookie to run because of the offensive line and running game. But Rush has no idea yet what real NFL defensive players and gameplans are about.
 

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Huge difference.

Dak played with and against hundreds and hundreds of NFL-level talent in the SEC. Cooper Rush played with and against a bunch of future insurance agents and Home Depot employees. He took the Romo route.

Yes, this is the easiest offense in the NFL for a rookie to run because of the offensive line and running game. But Rush has no idea yet what real NFL defensive players and gameplans are about.

Didn't Rush just play against NFL defenses in the preseason or did I miss something? If your 'Home Depot employees' comment is accurate, then even a 3rd string NFL defense is better than what he faced in college. Accurate? So please tell me who looked more 'ready' based off of those games? And you're right on one front, Rush has yet to see the entire defensive playbook thrown at him. Are you telling me that Dak was in any better of a position? Not a chance. So why/how was he 'ready'? Defensive schemes aren't rocket science. There are high school teams running the same schemes as NFL teams which lends me to believe that Mr. Rush is well aware of what 'game plans are about'. Mr. Moore may have a football brain but his football skills are in line with that 90 year old grandmother sitting in a nursing home who's drinking milk from straw because her arm is too weak to lift the carton.

Give me the guy who has the better physical tools and you can have the guy who can finish a Rubik's Cube in under 5 minutes. I like my chances....
 

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Exactly right. And just as it was for Dak, the playbook could be adjusted to suit Rush as well. Simplify it and play to the strengths of your quarterback. And then gradually open it up more and add to it as your young player gets more comfortable. The same thing they did for Prescott.

Saying "lets just repeat what Dak did" is like saying you won the lottery today, so you will win the lottery tomorrow.

Rush is a small college UDFA and the vast majority of top picks from major colleges can't handle the mental side of the NFL as rookies. It sounds great but it just doesn't work that way.

Its as if Darius Jackson was a rookie this year and someone said "Zeke got 1500 yards as a rookie, so if we plug Darius Jackson in as a rookie he will get 1200".
 

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Didn't Rush just play against NFL defenses in the preseason or did I miss something? If your 'Home Depot employees' comment is accurate, then even a 3rd string NFL defense is better than what he faced in college. .

Preseason defenses are vanilla schemes that mostly play backups.

Darius Jackson looked great in preseason last year and he is working at Home Depot right now. Accurate?
 

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Saying "lets just repeat what Dak did" is like saying you won the lottery today, so you will win the lottery tomorrow.

Rush is a small college UDFA and the vast majority of top picks from major colleges can't handle the mental side of the NFL as rookies. It sounds great but it just doesn't work that way.

Rush is also a four year starter, that counts for something too. He didn't just show up off the bus. And that showed up during this entire preseason. And the numbers show that. If things looked "too big" for anybody, it was Kellen Moore, who did nothing while out there with better talent.

And for all of the deserved accolades, Dak himself was a 4th round pick. This team's second of two. He was the 8th quarterback drafted, not the 1st. This team, this staff, and this environment greatly assisted in his development and success, just as it could for Rush.

Its as if Darius Jackson was a rookie this year and someone said "Zeke got 1500 yards as a rookie, so if we plug Darius Jackson in as a rookie he will get 1200".

I don't think anybody needs a strawman here, do you?
 

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I don't think anybody needs a strawman here, do you?

Its the perfect analogy, whether you accept it or not.

Show me the list of rookie QBs that played well as rookies and I'll show you Dak Prescott.

Show me the list of rookie QBs that played poorly as rookies and I'll show you a very long list.

Show me the list of rookie QBs that played as rookies and had it destroy their career and I'll show you a shorter list lead by guys like David Carr.
 
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