Kellen Moore wanted out of Dallas

MountaineerCowboy

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Why are you even here? lol... You do know KC has a Scout forum... why be on a site of the team and QB you seem to hate? Every post from you sound like a never ending whine... is so unoriginal. GO Be Happy... you may even make a friend or two... :huh:
The QB isn't the team.

That's some of ya'lls problem here.

You get it twisted thinking you have to be fans of players that hold your team back just because they play for your team.

I don't do that.
 

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He was given enough time to get past the divisional round. And he didn't do a very good job with the opportunities. That's the entire point, to move forward.
You can diminish the regular season when that's all we've seen for 30 years.
Didn't we learn our lesson holding onto Garrett for a decade?

Sure, someone's head has to roll or some scapegoat theory etc....

Bottom line is that his system failed and they want to get better and I commend that move.
There again where is the Bar set for measuring success?

If it’s the Super Bowl or bust then I’m not sure that’s realistic.

If you’re an OC and your offense is near the top of the league I’m not sure you should be considered the weak link.

We certainly didn’t treat our DC as such this year.
 

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They also predicted an embarrassing loss to Brady and the Bucs. When you hate one player on a personal level, you keep moving the goal posts. There is no constructive criticism, just hate. But this is a “told you so” moment for them. Be prepared to hear it all offseason….
Yeah I know lol. It’s so bad that you have to question if you’re even a Cowboys fan at this point. Who gloats about being right 1 percent of the time?
 

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There again where is the Bar set for measuring success?

If it’s the Super Bowl or bust then I’m not sure that’s realistic.

If you’re an OC and your offense is near the top of the league I’m not sure you should be considered the weak link.
You are if the team is winning in spite of you. And I don’t know if we know they or if we will ever find it out. But there was clear confusion with this team last year from the top down.

Management traded Cooper and replaced him with James Washington. Had no plan for replacing him.

Head coach had a run first philosophy and the OC throws it 40 times. Confusion.

Dak throwing pick 6s

Receivers making rookie mistakes in route running. Just weird.
 

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The QB isn't the team.

That's some of ya'lls problem here.

You get it twisted thinking you have to be fans of players that hold your team back just because they play for your team.

I don't do that.
I’ve always said you dont have to support all of the moving pieces to support the sum.

But it would help some fans causes if they didn’t hold just one player or aspect responsible .
 

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You are if the team is winning in spite of you. And I don’t know if we know they or if we will ever find it out. But there was clear confusion with this team last year from the top down.

Management traded Cooper and replaced him with James Washington. Had no plan for replacing him.

Head coach had a run first philosophy and the OC throws it 40 times. Confusion.

Dak throwing pick 6s

Receivers making rookie mistakes in route running. Just weird.
I’m not sure how we measure the team is winning in spite . That’s a very speculative argument .

But I suggest that would fall more on our dysfunctional ownership ways. Winning or having some success in spite of them.
 

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There again where is the Bar set for measuring success?

If it’s the Super Bowl or bust then I’m not sure that’s realistic.

If you’re an OC and your offense is near the top of the league I’m not sure you should be considered the weak link.

We certainly didn’t treat our DC as such this year.
Herm Edwards said it best while coaching the Jets, when change is clearly needed you have to make a change but it’s unrealistic to change the whole team. So it makes sense to start at the top. I’m paraphrasing, of course…
 

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It's over for Dak...and probably McCarthy too. I don't expect them to install a new offense for Dak to learn in year 8 so it's basically just going to be a transition year.
The problem is that the transition will be for the coaches and not the QB. That stupid 40M p/yr contract will haunt them for a few more years.
 

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If we let Moore go but are keeping the same offense, I don't see how we improve the offense. We need a fresh set of eyes and a new system. To let go of the coordinator and then have MM call plays from an offense that he reportedly didn't know, seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Dak isn't going anywhere, but we are gonna have MM call the same offense Moore ran and expect better results?

I hope this report is false but nothing would surprise me with these clowns running the show.
Attention to details, the little things that make plays work based on the defenders. This is something Kurt Warner and others bring up in almost every Cowboys film breakdown. While they point out when Dak makes a bad decision, they repeatedly question what certain plays are trying to accomplish because one side doesn’t compliment what the other side is doing, and they question the attention to details regarding how the receivers adjust routes to create more space. That’s on the OC and his coaches, as well as the receivers if they are actually taught this.

I want a new or tweaked offensive system with more modern elements, but even the current system can be improved greatly In order to succeed vs good defenses.
 

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I’ve always said you dont have to support all of the moving pieces to support the sum.

But it would help some fans causes if they didn’t hold just one player or aspect responsible .
It would help the team if the most important player on the team (QB) wasn't the weak link also.

We were literally a QB away from going to the NFC Championship. You can't say that often and it be true, but you can for that game.
 

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Herm Edwards said it best while coaching the Jets, when change is clearly needed you have to make a change but it’s unrealistic to change the whole team. So it makes sense to start at the top. I’m paraphrasing, of course…
And since we aren’t making that change at the top, meaning our GM and ownership , I’m not sure where our Bar falls.

Especially if it’s our owner and GM who is ultimately making the decisions on coaching and personnel.

And also dictating wanting to prove he was right about over hyping and over paying his QB.
 

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Tanking in 2023 will be difficult with all the crap teams in the NFL but we can do it!
How many times have you said you’d like a tank over the years? I can remember
2-3 times you and I have had these discussions. It’s not worth it Bruh, it makes for a long year and a bunch of wasted time. And it doesn’t work anyways…
 

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I’m not sure how we measure the team is winning in spite . That’s a very speculative argument .

But I suggest that would fall more on our dysfunctional ownership ways. Winning or having some success in spite of them.
Yeah I don’t know honestly. I’m not a scout or a ex NFL guy….so to me I’m looking at the game from a fans view and as a fan it just looks like this isn’t winning football now he’s calling games.
 

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That’s not a proven argument . That’s a narrative .
Not to you, but to most that watched the game they could see that just decent play from Dak would've been enough to win easily.

You don't have to believe it and I don't expect you to because I know where you stand on things, but the game doesn't lie.
 

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How many times have you said you’d like a tank over the years? I can remember
2-3 times you and I have had these discussions. It’s not worth it Bruh, it makes for a long year and a bunch of wasted time. And it doesn’t work anyways…
Last years team he said should tank……13 wins later he was wrong.
 

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There again where is the Bar set for measuring success?

If it’s the Super Bowl or bust then I’m not sure that’s realistic.

If you’re an OC and your offense is near the top of the league I’m not sure you should be considered the weak link.

We certainly didn’t treat our DC as such this year.
The bar is set every season, higher than the last season.
Simple as that.
The defense wasn't the issue vs. the 49ers, in fact they did their job. Especially when Rush had to QB.
The offense was the weak link in the playoffs and it's really not debatable.
 

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Not to you, but to most that watched the game they could see that just decent play from Dak would've been enough to win easily.

You don't have to believe it and I don't expect you to because I know where you stand on things, but the game doesn't lie.
One could argue we were a decent OC away from a NFC championship….
 

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Not to you, but to most that watched the game they could see that just decent play from Dak would've been enough to win easily.

You don't have to believe it and I don't expect you to because I know where you stand on things, but the game doesn't lie.
No doubt that was a poor performance from Dak. No one is disputing.

But we don’t know for certain if he’d played better if we’d of won easily or not . That’s purely speculation.

Shoot, Dak could have played a great game and someone else could have had turnovers or dropped more interceptions , missed kicks , etc.
 
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