Kellen Moore wanted out of Dallas

[jazzcat22]

semantics. he was let go. if they wanted him back hed be back.

Right, he was fired. They stated is a mutual agreement to save face for both sides.
He did not want out as the Dak haters say, because he wanted away from Dak. And I am NOT defending Dak by saying that.

 

[Hadenough]

Well I guess I was right! Dak got another coach fired. I did think it was going to be McCarthy so I was wrong there. But just watching the Dallas passing game Dak becomes so limited when he has to speed things up. That is exactly where Daks troubles begin. He would go from a top 10 QB to a 28th ranked QB.

 

[nobody]

You Dak haters need to go to my link and watch the 2 videos posted. Those ex-professional players are saying much differently than what is being professed here. They explain exactly what was wrong in Dallas and why Kellen Moore is no longer here.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/this-failed-2022-season-was-much-more-than-dak.507743/

And what will you say when Dak chokes again with the new OC? Moore needed to go. He was no help for sure. That doesn't mean that Dak isn't a choker though.

 

[jazzcat22]

According to what’s been reported he wanted out. Prior to this post it was reported they mutually parted ways. Everyone else’s contracts either expired or they were fired. Those were the reports.

He was fired. Mutual agreement to save face for both sides as they knew it would be more controversial to fans and media than some assistant coach.

 

[atlantacowboy]

There were plenty of expiring contracts, but what is clear is, if Jerry fired Moore, he would still owe him money for his final year. The fact that the Chargers requested an interview a week prior to even announcing his hire, while Moore has connections to Herbert and LVE through some commercials in Idaho seems to support this position. This request by the Chargers also PRECEDED Dallas announcing it won't renew any expiring contracts, including Joe Philbin. Coupled with the fact, as @NotForLong pointed out, Jerry owns the rights to box seats for the Chargers, it all points to a move on Kellen Moore' part.

It is also being reported that MM is not changing the offense, but will call plays. Since Prescott is too expensive to move this next year, maybe Jerry doesn't really have high expectations this season.

How do you conclude Jerry doesn't have high expectations this season? Jerry loves Dak, and Dak isn't any worse today than he was when Jerry bestowed that contract upon him. Jerry is 81 and knows he does not have the luxury of time on his side. What we do this off season is what Jerry and son think is the path to the super bowl and that is their expectation.

Kellens contract was up and JERRY decided not to renew it. It is a kinder way of saying he was fired. The chargers had to ask for permission b/c Moore is under contract until the new league year begins which is Feb 13th. The chargers didn't want to wait until the official expiration of Moore's contract to get him interviewed and signed.

 

[atlantacowboy]

He was fired. Mutual agreement to save face for both sides as they knew it would be more controversial to fans and media than some assistant coach.

I think the "mutual agreement" part is just a gentlemans way of helping the fired person save face since every move the cowboys make is blown up 50x by the national media.

 

[JeffInDC]

Exactly, folks acting like there is one playbook for WCO, then another playbook for Coryell, then another playbook for E-P, and every playbook has a set of different plays.

This is not the case, 90% of the plays are the same across the different offenses, the difference is how you set up the plays and how they relate to each other in terms of one play setting up another play.

This is where I think the problem was with Moore, he never called plays that set up other plays or how they relate to each other, its like he was just picking plays at random out of the playbook. Its like we ran the ball four times in a row, how about lets go 5 wide and spread them out for the next play and then lets do a jet sweep after that, and so on.

There was no rhyme or reason to the playcalling, it was like you just pick plays at random like you are playing Madden. This is where I think Big Mike can improve things.

Thank you for writing this exactly how I was thinking of writing it...but the words didn't come out that way

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak fans desperately want it to be at Moore got fired.

Cowboys fan can see that Moore wanted out and got out.

It's pretty simple.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dak fans desperately want it to be at Moore got fired.

Cowboys fan can see that Moore wanted out and got out.

It's pretty simple.

You really need to stop with this old worn out narrative.
It shows you are the opposite of what you say about other fans, but yet you are the same as you claim they are at the same time.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You really need to stop with this old worn out narrative.
It shows you are the opposite of what you say about other fans, but yet you are the same as you claim they are at the same time.

I see you up there trying to convince yourself and anyone that will listen that Moore was fired.

Why'd you feel the need to respond to me?

 

[USArmyVet]

He’s nothing but a Dak Troll and takes the fun out of this place.

Surprised to see you surface after Dak's last performance that cost the Cowboys the game.

 

[USArmyVet]

You’re sick. You think calling you a terrorizer is a compliment. Just sick. Twisted.

Well it simply means you get emotionally impacted by what others say on a social media site, which in your mind equates to being terrorized......I guess you have bad dreams about this site.

 

[USArmyVet]

You should but you won’t.

Yeah, I should because you told me to? That's not how that works.

 

[Rayman70]

the Dallas pressure cooker finally did him in. In 2 years he will be back in College.

 

[jazzcat22]

I see you up there trying to convince yourself and anyone that will listen that Moore was fired.

Why'd you feel the need to respond to me?

Your schtick is old. Can't wait for something to happen to see what your 2023 off-season saying(s) and narratives will be.

I am not convincing myself of anything. I just tell the truth.

Moore WAS fired. He had a contract, and he is not here...that is FIRED....
They did NOT say...he RESIGNED. If he wanted out, and went to Jerry, he would say he resigns.

Mutual Agreement = FIRED

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Your schtick is old. Can't wait for something to happen to see what your 2023 off-season saying(s) and narratives will be.

I am not convincing myself of anything. I just tell the truth.

Moore WAS fired. He had a contract, and he is not here...that is FIRED....
They did NOT say...he RESIGNED. If he wanted out, and went to Jerry, he would say he resigns.

Mutual Agreement = FIRED

My "schtick" as you call it told you exactly how this season would end for the Cowboys. That is in embarrassing fashion led by Dak Prescott.

I also said 2 weeks ago that if Moore was smart he would take a lateral move to get away from Dak. He did just that.

You call it a "schtick". I just call it common sense and seeing things for what they are.

 

[Diehardblues]

For someone who worked in journalism, you should know one should not create an informative thread without listing your source.

These aren’t journalist based columns which require a source. . They are opinion driven threads and post on a forum by anonymous members.

And if I recall correctly said it was reported which means it wasn’t actually supported by factual data.

 

[jazzcat22]

My "schtick" as you call it told you exactly how this season would end for the Cowboys. That is in embarrassing fashion led by Dak Prescott.

I also said 2 weeks ago that if Moore was smart he would take a lateral move to get away from Dak. He did just that.

You call it a "schtick". I just call it common sense and seeing things for what they are.

No it is your Schtick...as here you are thumping your chest about the loss and Dak looking bad. And I am NOT defending Dak either. I prefer they draft a QB to groom to replace him once out of the contract.
However, I am a DALLAS over any player fan. You call some Dak over Dallas fans, but yet you do the Dak FAIL over Dallas SCHTICK all the time.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

No it is your Schtick...as here you are thumping your chest about the loss and Dak looking bad. And I am NOT defending Dak either. I prefer they draft a QB to groom to replace him once out of the contract.
However, I am a DALLAS over any player fan. You call some Dak over Dallas fans, but yet you do the Dak FAIL over Dallas SCHTICK all the time.

I'd rather for my "schtick" be being right instead of your "schtick" as being wrong in the name of Dak.

I told you what would happen. You know I told you this would happen.

Dak fail over Dallas makes zero sense. If that was the case then I'd want Dak to stay here as long as possible so Dallas keeps failing, instead I want the bum off the team yesterday so Dallas can prosper.

 

[USArmyVet]

No it is your Schtick...as here you are thumping your chest about the loss and Dak looking bad. And I am NOT defending Dak either. I prefer they draft a QB to groom to replace him once out of the contract.
However, I am a DALLAS over any player fan. You call some Dak over Dallas fans, but yet you do the Dak FAIL over Dallas SCHTICK all the time.

Does it matter if Moore was fired or a mutual parting of ways? The fact is many wanted Moore gone saying he was at fault for Dallas' offensive woes but let's look at the before and during Moore as OC years in relationship to Dak's stats:


2016-2018 (before Moore as OC)

(48 games) 975 of 1,475 66.1% Comp % 10,876 yards 7.37 ypa 67 td's 4.5% td % 25 int's 1.7% int % 96.1 qb rating


2019-2022 (during Moore as OC)

(49 games) 1,210 of 1,808 66.9% comp % 14,067 yards 7.78 ypa 99 td's 5.5% td % 40 int's 2.2% int % 98.7 qb rating


Say what you will but the fact is with Moore as OC Dak put up much better statistics and you could argue it was Moore that made Dak improve......time will tell this coming season what impact Moore had on Dak but the fact remains Moore is now with the Chargers so at the end of 2023 we will see where Dak is without Moore and where Herbert is with Moore.