Kevin Burnett

[Hostile]

I predict things...You whine about things...

I see things and find weaknesses...Our nickle pass rush...Dat not being able to hold up to that workload is one of them...

No go talk about golf or something....

Calling this nonsense an agenda is not whining, but by all means babble some more.

The workload weakness you've spotted, it kind of shoots holes in your stupid little theory. Allow me to illucidate.

2002, he played in the final 7 games. 2003, all 16. 2004, all 16. 2005, all 3 so far, #4 coming right up.

43 straight games he hasn't missed. Yeah he's fragile.

Congrats on the stellar detective work Sherlock.

Now go talk about checkers or something. This clearly isn't your area.

 

[junk]

Youre making the assumption that Spears and Canty are going to be players then discount Burnett and Fujita in the same breath.

Its OLB are supposed to be the catalytic playmakers not the inside guys who are akin to wil and mike from a 4-3. Now I have seen Singleton get pushed around on runs to his side and if Fujita/Burnett cannot step up you may have a point. But considering how one was just brought in and the other is probably just now getting back to close to 100% its premature for you to make the claims of lack of depth.

But if either can step in and perform to expectations supplanting Singleton with there size and quickness on the outside then all of a sudden our LB situation is rosy. Shanle Fowler Singleton and the remainder of Fujita/Burnett are very good depth. Additionally LBers dont need to be rotated so much because they are not engaging an offensive lineman every down.

And talk of the 4-3/3-4 fixation all you want but that does not lessen the fact that we dont have the DT depth esp on first downs to consistently use a 4 man front. Now I am all for showing different looks as we do but I am 100% against having to deal with 4th quarter collapses because Glover and Ferguson are completely gassed.

Finally we need to keep this defense simple for now. Everyone complains about the vanilla looks but look at the experience we have: only Glover and Cantly have experience with our base, Canty, Spears, Ware and Burnett are all rookies, and everyone else is trying this scheme for the first time.

For now I am content with seeing Parcell's 3-4 and our nickle until we at the very least stop the run consistently and then mix in some other stuff.

I have seen Spears and Canty make plays....haven't seen that from Fujita and Burnett yet. I think their combined upside is higher than that of Fujita and Burnett.

Its premature for me to make claims about lack of depth? Where is the LB depth? Starters are questionable at this point, much less depth. Meanwhile, the team has six starting quality DL. I am glad you are pleased with the LB depth, but IMO the starters aren't even that good, much less the reserves.

I'd possibly agree on NT depth. I have harped on that all offseason as well. If Ferguson goes down, this team is SOL. However, I think the DT depth is as good as any LB depth. I'd rather rotate Spears and Canty at DT than deal with the lack of playmakers and depth at LB.

The four man fronts would stop the run more consistently. It was what was being run against DC in run down situations. Its already part of the defense. As far as learning it, I am not that concerned either. If you can't pick up gap responsibilities, you have some serious issues. Its players like Ware and Burnett who are being asked to deal with run and pass coverage responsibilities that have more issues.

I realize there will be some growing pains and I am not advocating this as a base. I'd just like to see more of it. I think it caters to the strength of the team, the DL. At the same time, it implements the 3-4 principles so the team can build for a full fledged move next year.

 

[junk]

Our base D is fine for now, just adjusting to situations will come with experence...

But we need changeups on our Nickle...

The base 4 man rush is too predictable...
Dat & Shanle both are too slow as the Lbers...

We can't allow Collins time to throw deep or his arm & their speed at WR will kill us again with no Centerfield FS...

We better hope Burnett is ready to play...
I think its near to seeing a impact from the rook from Tenn...

The nickel is getting quite a few sacks though. The four man rush may be predictable, but IMO, its working the best right now.

 

[blindzebra]

Well it is you that Im talking to.

Youre whole argument before was that we have the personnel to run the 4-3 but not the 3-4 and this looks like an extension of that old argument.

So youre finally coming around to the fact that our personnel better fits the 3-4?

Let's see Ware's sack came in a 4 man line, Spears got his at DT in a 4 man line, Ellis has two in a 4 man line, Glover's came in a 4 man line, Dat, Shanle and Williams sacks came from blitzes while in a 4 man line.

Nguyen has been our best LB.

What catalytic plays have come from our LBs while in a 3-4?

All our 2nd tier DL have been making plays, have our 2nd team LBs?

Our players fit either system, but we have more depth and have had more plays from the DL so far. We still do not have the LBs to have a top-flight 3-4, and nothing in the first 3 games changes my opinion.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let's see Ware's sack came in a 4 man line, Spears got his at DT in a 4 man line, Ellis has two in a 4 man line, Glover's came in a 4 man line, Dat, Shanle and Williams sacks came from blitzes while in a 4 man line.

Nguyen has been our best LB.

What catalytic plays have come from our LBs while in a 3-4?

All our 2nd tier DL have been making plays, have our 2nd team LBs?

Our players fit either system, but we have more depth and have had more plays from the DL so far. We still do not have the LBs to have a top-flight 3-4, and nothing in the first 3 games changes my opinion.

Well noone can doubt your waffling. Your original point was that you werent talking about a 4 man front and now this.

I seem to remember Ware's sack coming from a standing position. Let me look I have Calico's vids on my desktop. And lo and behold that was from him standing as a LB.

BZ, you lie to support your position all the time. Its at the 40 second mark of the second of Calico's video. Go look again. Once again your credibility is shot. Im not going to even bother looking up the others. Im sure its the same deal as this one.

But please quit the lying to support your claims.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have seen Spears and Canty make plays....haven't seen that from Fujita and Burnett yet. I think their combined upside is higher than that of Fujita and Burnett.

Its premature for me to make claims about lack of depth? Where is the LB depth? Starters are questionable at this point, much less depth. Meanwhile, the team has six starting quality DL. I am glad you are pleased with the LB depth, but IMO the starters aren't even that good, much less the reserves.

I'd possibly agree on NT depth. I have harped on that all offseason as well. If Ferguson goes down, this team is SOL. However, I think the DT depth is as good as any LB depth. I'd rather rotate Spears and Canty at DT than deal with the lack of playmakers and depth at LB.

The four man fronts would stop the run more consistently. It was what was being run against DC in run down situations. Its already part of the defense. As far as learning it, I am not that concerned either. If you can't pick up gap responsibilities, you have some serious issues. Its players like Ware and Burnett who are being asked to deal with run and pass coverage responsibilities that have more issues.

I realize there will be some growing pains and I am not advocating this as a base. I'd just like to see more of it. I think it caters to the strength of the team, the DL. At the same time, it implements the 3-4 principles so the team can build for a full fledged move next year.

I dont think were that off on the way we view the defense.

Burnett and Fujita are def more of a question mark than Spears and Canty but Fujita saw some action last week and Im sure hell see more this week. Burnett the same. Should make things interesting.

The jury is still out on all of them at this point but Spears/Canty are ahead of the curve atm.

 

[blindzebra]

Well noone can doubt your waffling. Your original point was that you werent talking about a 4 man front and now this.

I seem to remember Ware's sack coming from a standing position. Let me look I have Calico's vids on my desktop. And lo and behold that was from him standing as a LB.

BZ, you lie to support your position all the time. Its at the 40 second mark of the second of Calico's video. Go look again. Once again your credibility is shot. Im not going to even bother looking up the others. Im sure its the same deal as this one.

But please quit the lying to support your claims.

You are so full of BS it is not funny. You start picking a fight, I honestly defend what I said, and you start in with the I'm lying crap.

My credibility is fine. You can't win an argument so all you can do is make claims of me misrepresenting things.

How about refuting that we have gotten more out of our DL than LBs, you can't, so you attempt to pick a fight. It's not going to work.

I'm done.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are so full of BS it is not funny. You start picking a fight, I honestly defend what I said, and you start in with the I'm lying crap.

My credibility is fine. You can't win an argument so all you can do is make claims of me misrepresenting things.

How about refuting that we have gotten more out of our DL than LBs, you can't, so you attempt to pick a fight. It's not going to work.

I'm done.

Man I have the video its on Calico's video 2 at the 40 second mark you can pause it and it clearly shows 3 down lineman.

You can put on your little show of bravado in case anyone else is reading but im calling you a liar. Anyone else can go and look. I wouldnt make a deal out of it but you do this all the time. Make stuff up to prove your point. Its annoying and disingenuous.

 

[junk]

I dont think were that off on the way we view the defense.

Burnett and Fujita are def more of a question mark than Spears and Canty but Fujita saw some action last week and Im sure hell see more this week. Burnett the same. Should make things interesting.

The jury is still out on all of them at this point but Spears/Canty are ahead of the curve atm.

I agree. I really hope Burnett/Fujita pick up and plays lights out as the season progresses.

I really hope Fujita is the Dallas version of Steve Foley. A LB who switched to 3-4 and went from JAG to a solid player. If he does, the team needs to lock him up for a couple of years.

The nice thing about the draft this year....there are some solid LBers that should be coming out.

Hawk and Carpenter from OSU, Hodges/Greenway from Iowa, Brooks from Virginia. I am sure I am missing a couple as well.

 

[junk]

Man I have the video its on Calico's video 2 at the 40 second mark you can pause it and it clearly shows 3 down lineman.

You can put on your little show of bravado in case anyone else is reading but im calling you a liar. Anyone else can go and look. I wouldnt make a deal out of it but you do this all the time. Make stuff up to prove your point. Its annoying and disingenuous.

I would have to look at the last game, but in the Skins game, all but one sack came from a four man line. Canty's was the only one from a three man line in that game.

Haven't had a chance to rewatch SF.