Killa Keith Davis' dodging bullets in Miami now...2-years, $3.5 million

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iceberg;1994232 said:
there will be a lot of veteran 2nd tier FAs out there to choose from. draft one, bring in a couple for camp, let the best 2nd stringer show himself.

Although the draft is not loaded with instant NFL caliber Safety starters, I think you can pull down a DJ Wolfe or DJ Parker in the 4th to 5th rounds if needed. Or if you want to go higher. UT's Griifin might still be around in the 3rd or 4th round.

Any of those 3 options would be suitable backups. I don't think the Cowboys are looking for starters, but it would be nice if a young stud could push Roy Williams a little in the offseason & training camp.
 

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Doctor32;1994239 said:
Although the draft is not loaded with instant NFL caliber Safety starters, I think you can pull down a DJ Wolfe or DJ Parker in the 4th to 5th rounds if needed. Or if you want to go higher. UT's Griifin might still be around in the 3rd or 4th round.

Any of those 3 options would be suitable backups. I don't think the Cowboys are looking for starters, but it would be nice if a young stud could push Roy Williams a little in the offseason & training camp.

good names to be aware of!
 

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we can afford to draft a couple of special teams aces who are unlikely to ever start on day two of the draft.
 

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hendog;1994223 said:
This is one of the worst drafts for safeties in years, esp SS. Anyone care to guess on our plan to back up Roy? Courtney Brown, Watkins - I wouldn't think so.

who cares how bad this draft is at SS. KD wasn't much of a SS as it is so the team isn't losing much.

But, this could mean good news for Watkins lovers. If Roy were to get sat down, I could see Hamlin moving over to SS.
 
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He probably won't start in Miami but surely will be the special teams captain there... He's a solid backup though.
 

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BigDave95;1994222 said:
There is a complicated formula but all you really need to know is that you get compensatory draft picks if you don't sign new free agents and other teams sign yours.

The better those players perform, the better your picks. So cheer like crazy for JuJo and Jacques Reeves and all the rest.

Well in that case...Come on JuJo get that elusive 2000 yard year!!!! :)
 

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Thehoofbite;1994248 said:
who cares how bad this draft is at SS. KD wasn't much of a SS as it is so the team isn't losing much.

But, this could mean good news for Watkins lovers. If Roy were to get sat down, I could see Hamlin moving over to SS.


This isn't a loss at safety but it's a big blow on Special teams where we were already suspect. He's been a great special teams player and now we must find a way to replace him in that aspect.
 

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hendog;1994223 said:
This is one of the worst drafts for safeties in years, esp SS. Anyone care to guess on our plan to back up Roy? Courtney Brown, Watkins - I wouldn't think so.

Tom Zbikowski (sp?) is looking like a viable option at this point.
 

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That's who I was thinking about. What round do you think we should/could pull the trigger on him?
 

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skinsscalper;1994256 said:
Tom Zbikowski (sp?) is looking like a viable option at this point.

He's another good name. He's projected as high as early 4th round and as low as mid to late 6th round. Good pickup for special teams. I don't know if he's a NFL punt returner, but against the best Div. I competition over the last 3 years he looked damn good doing it at Notre Dame.
 

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skinsscalper;1994256 said:
Tom Zbikowski (sp?) is looking like a viable option at this point.

He seemed to be my first choice as well. One would think he would bring an A+ mentallity and do well on ST's.
 

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Well. I will miss his attitude on special teams and what he did to fire up the crowd. He is a below average player as a safety so hopefully we will improve there.

This rookie class better produce some top notch special teamers, in two years now we have lost our best sp teams players....fowler, elam, reeves, davis. lot of replacing to be done.
 

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skinsscalper;1994256 said:
Tom Zbikowski (sp?) is looking like a viable option at this point.

This guy is quietly or slowly gaining some momentum in rumours...Caught this breakdown off of KFFL.com...Kinda interesting.

Draft Analysis: Tom Zbikowski, SS, Notre Dame Fighting Irish

March 10, 2008
17:51:24
By John M. Kotch Jr.
Edited by Cory J. Bonini

Notre Dame senior safety Tom Zbikowski may not be one of the top safety prospects entering this year's NFL draft, but he is, as future Hall of Fame head coach Bill Parcells would put it: "one football playing dude."

"All day tough" is how Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis described Zbikowski. Just how tough is made evident by watching him in the ring. Zbikowski is an accomplished boxer and boasts a 75-15 record in 90 career fights. Last June, in New York City's Madison Square Garden, Zbikowski made his professional debut and fought on the under card of a professional heavyweight bout. He knocked his opponent Robert Bell out 49 seconds into the first round, despite Bell's considerable advantages in height, weight and reach.

Another example of Zbikowski's Conrad Dobler-like mean streak was witnessed at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine. Before he bench pressed 225 pounds 24 times, Zbikowski curtly told the spotter, Arizona Cardinals strength and conditioning coach, John Lott, to "move" so he could slide onto the bench from the back.

Then in the middle of Zbikowski's lift, Lott, who is somewhat of a colorful character, shouted "Come on Rudy!" to which Zbikowski replied in mid press, and with a bit of a menacing tone, "Don't call me that again." Needless to say, Lott continued to shout encouragement but declined to use the "Rudy" crack again. :laugh2:

After playing quarterback in high school in his home town of Buffalo Grove, Ill., Zbikowski did not see the field at all as a reserve safety for Notre Dame in 2003.

In the spring of 2004, Zbikowski won the starting strong safety position. He started at strong safety in all 12 games for the Irish that year, ending the season with 70 tackles. He also excelled on special teams, returning punts and covering kickoffs.

A year later in 2005, Zbikowski again started all 12 games. Notre Dame posted a 9-3 record, were ranked ninth in the country, and earned a post-season appearance in the Fiesta Bowl. Zbikowski played a big part in that success both as a safety and special teams player. He scored four touchdowns that year, two on interception returns and two on punt returns. He finished fourth on the team in tackles with 71 and led the team with five interceptions. Zbikowski also returned 27 punts for 379 yards, an average of 14.0 yards per return. He was selected as an Associated Press Third-Team All-American.

In 2006, Zbikowski, along with quarterback Brady Quinn and running back Travis Thomas, was voted team captain by his teammates. He started 12 of 13 games, missing one game due to an injury. He ended the year with 79 tackles, including one for a loss. He had two pass breakups and a forced fumble. He returned another fumble 25 yards for a touchdown. He returned one punt 52 yards for a touchdown against North Carolina. At the end of the year, Zbikowski was again selected as a Third-Team All-American by the Associated Press and was granted an additional year of eligibility.

Zbikowski was voted team captain again in his senior year, registering 80 tackles and two interceptions. Zbikowski enters the 2008 NFL Draft with the eighth-highest tackle count in Notre Dame's history. His three punt returns that went for touchdowns ties him with two prominent Notre Dame products, former Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders wide receiver Tim Brown, and former NFL running back Ricky Watters, for the most in school history.

Positives

Zbikowski may not be the most physically gifted player in the world, but he makes up for that with a gigantic heart, great intensity, a superbly strong work ethic and great leadership skills. He has added a little bulk, weighing in at the Scouting Combine at 211 pounds (5-foot-11 1/4). However, his body remains lean at only 8 percent body fat.

Zbikowski is a scrapper who plays angry without losing focus. Pound for pound, he is strong for his size. His 24 bench reps of 225 pounds at the combine led all of the defensive backs and would have placed him in the middle of the pack among the offensive lineman. He shows instincts and intelligence. He has good combination of both physical and mental attributes.

Showing good balance in the return game, Zbikowski is hard to knock off his feet. He has quality vision and is very cagy mentally. He brings an on-field confidence that comes with the territory of being a less than gifted player from the physical standpoint.

Negatives

Zbikowski's aggressiveness can certainly be an asset, but at times it has also been a liability, as he has shown a tendency to bite hard on play-fakes. He has had issues in coverage, often getting blown past over the top when covering the deep routes.

Not a sure tackler, Zbikowski often whiffs at the ball carrier, especially in the open field. He tries to use too many arm tackles and often doesn't wrap up well enough.

With little fluidity to his movements while returning with the ball in his hands, Zbikowski becomes an easy target for the faster players of the NFL. His lack of natural athletic ability is a concern, and he isn't extremely fast. His 4.52 40 time at the combine was better than most expected, but that doesn't help him a lot in the NFL when one considers his general lack of athleticism.

Attitude is a bit of concern, too. Zbikowski often comes across as being smug and overly self-absorbed during interviews, which could rub some NFL folks the wrong way.

Expected Draft Placement

For teams drafting solely on physical dimension and talent, Zbikowski is not a top consideration for the safety position. However, he possesses qualities and intangibles that make up for his physical shortcomings.
In the NFL, Zbikowski could probably transition into a player that is called up into the box to play against the run, but he needs to improve greatly on his tackling ability, as well as consistency, for this to happen.
At the very least, Zbikowski has the potential for a career as a special teamer and backup safety. In this regard, Zbikowski would be drafted as highly as a late third-round pick, but he most likely falls into the late fourth or top of the fifth round.
This is NFL.com's basic breakdown on him.


Analysis

Positives: Well-chiseled frame. ... Intelligent and has the instincts for the position. ... Can break on the ball and is effective in zone coverage. ... Understands his role as a last line of defense and takes good angles to the ball. ... Aggressive in run support. ... Willing to take on blocks to make the play and an effective open-field tackler. ... Can lay the big hit. ... Has seen action at strong and free safety. ... Has the combination of athleticism and smarts to be effective in man and zone schemes.

Negatives: Athletic, but his pure speed is a concern. ... Forty time has been estimated at 4.55 and he can be caught out of position on deep passes. ... Has a slight hitch in his hip turn and loses a half-step in his transition. ... Quickness is evident as a returner, but is not always there as a defender. ... Can be too aggressive and will at times be caught in poor position against effective play-action.
Gotta say that last bit on him reminds me of good ole RW :rolleyes:
 

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I like Keith Davis and im happy for him.

I wish he were here next year though.
 

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Those two reports on him are vastly different. One has him as very unathletic and a poor open field tackle who uses to many arm tackles and the next one has him as an effective open field tackler who takes good angles and such.

I wonder which one is closer to accurate? Somewhere in the middle perhaps?
 
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