Kurt Warner Breaks Down Dak vs Packers

mardwin

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Yikes, good breakdown.

What we have here is an inefficient offense, led by a QB who isn't reading the defense at a high level and is making poor decisions, receivers that run into each other, receivers that run sloppy routes, and an OC that doesn't appear to be fixing any of the above

Receivers were getting open Dak was hesitant and poor. It is what it is when you try to make a mule a race horse.
 

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Totally wrong. I have the All-22, and I see exactly what Irvin, Olson, Keyshawn and others are saying and why. Kurt Warner is wrong. Michael Irvin made a name for himself running the opposite of what Warner said, and Irvin succeeded in making catches in the middle while getting hit.

Irvin rarely lined up in the slot and they ran 2 WRs as their base set and he ran the post route to perfection and had a far better QB.
 

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Irvin rarely lined up in the slot and they ran 2 WRs as their base set and he ran the post route to perfection and had a far better QB.
Ok. And? Doesn't mean Irvin doesn’t know what he's talking about.

Does it have to be only someone who played the slot to be able to talk about CeeDee's route running?
 

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Ok. And? Doesn't mean Irvin doesn’t know what he's talking about.

Does it have to be only someone who played the slot to be able to talk about CeeDee's route running?

So than your rationale of why you claimed Irvin would know more than the HOF QB who actually played the position that throws the ball was made up out of thin air I’m guessing..
 

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Dak does not throw lay ups to the RB like Staubach and Aikman. He just does not check the ball down early enough for the lay up passes. He has been badly taught to focus on Lamb and it is pathetic as he can not throw WRs open.
You guys have GOT to get your slander on Dak straight. Maybe get a weekly meeting together on zoom or something?

Last year it was "Dak can't get it to wrs and is Always checking down"


Now it is..."OMG Dak doesn't check down fast enough and targeted his #1 wr 15 times"

Loons.
 

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So than your rationale of why you claimed Irvin would know more than the HOF QB who actually played the position that throws the ball was made up out of thin air I’m guessing..
Yet, Irvin the HOF receiver and 3 time SB champion received his passes from another HOF and 3 time SB winning QB in Aikman. You're seriously saying Kurt Warner who won 1 SB knows more than Michael Irvin when it comes to route running?
 

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You guys have GOT to get your slander on Dak straight. Maybe get a weekly meeting together on zoom or something?

Last year it was "Dak can't get it to wrs and is Always checking down"


Now it is..."OMG Dak doesn't check down fast enough and targeted his #1 wr 15 times"

Loons.


Dak sucks....there, no variations of the same message.
 

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So than your rationale of why you claimed Irvin would know more than the HOF QB who actually played the position that throws the ball was made up out of thin air I’m guessing..
The only one making up anything is one who sides with an opposing 1 time SB winning QB against his own team's 3 time winning wide receiver.
 

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Yet, Irvin the HOF receiver and 3 time SB champion received his passes from another HOF and 3 time SB winning QB in Aikman. You're seriously saying Kurt Warner who won 1 SB knows more than Michael Irvin when it comes to route running?

You keep repeating yourself.
 

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Yet, Irvin the HOF receiver and 3 time SB champion received his passes from another HOF and 3 time SB winning QB in Aikman. You're seriously saying Kurt Warner who won 1 SB knows more than Michael Irvin when it comes to route running?

I never said Lamb was a better route runner than Irvin’s. It’s you that said Irvin ran that route all the time, which he rarely did run, as it came from the slot. And we are talking about Dak and QB play, meaning Warner definitely does know more than Irvin. Not sure how that’s hard to digest…
 

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Bottom line: Kurt Warner points out numerous instances where Dak simply does not read the field well....and on the 2 INT's, that many want to blame Lamb and Schultz, Warner correctly points out that Dak should have been able to read the play so as NOT to make those throws....but again, Dak stares down his 1st read and can't go through his reads or read the field.
Lordy


Go watch some of his other videos of other qbs. This isn't exclusive to Dak and no qb plays perfectly every play. Warner didnt either btw. That is why he threw 22 Ints one year.

Warner suffers from the same issue a lot of analysts suffer from, God complex bc they are viewing the game from the ALL 22 in slow mo.

They forget that their are things like getting the wind knocked out of you the previous play, managing all of the pre snap stuff and guys bearing down on you trying to kill you.

Dak had a lot of head scratchers in the first half but the picks were not on him, as much as you want to try and reinvent the game.
 

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[QUOT

Run for the first down.

Do something outside the box. The best quarterbacks improvise when the situation warrants it.

Seeing as he has a propensity to change said called play all the time he could have changed it again. But he isn’t cerebral enough.

Do everything in your power to get that damn first down.
You mean like get the ball off while a dl is on your back?
 

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To make sure it gets into your thick stubborn skull.

Repeating the same message does not make it fact.....but nice to see you resort to insults because the validity of your argument is baseless....so you have to devolve into negativity which not only lessens your position but demeans your character.
 

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I never said Lamb was a better route runner than Irvin’s. It’s you that said Irvin ran that route all the time, which he rarely did run, as it came from the slot. And we are talking about Dak and QB play, meaning Warner definitely does know more than Irvin. Not sure how that’s hard to digest…
No, I never said Irvin ran that route ALL THE TIME. You just intentionally lied to try to make yourself win an argument you have already lost. Irvin definitely knows more about the correct routes to run over any QB since all Irvin ever did in his career is practice route running!!! Just be quiet. You sound beyond foolish and traitorous already.
 

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Repeating the same message does not make it fact.....but nice to see you resort to insults because the validity of your argument is baseless....so you have to devolve into negativity which not only lessens your position but demeans your character.
Whatever. As if you are the moral authority of positivity and character? What a crock. You're the exact opposite!
 

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Lordy


Go watch some of his other videos of other qbs. This isn't exclusive to Dak and no qb plays perfectly every play. Warner didnt either btw. That is why he threw 22 Ints one year.

Warner suffers from the same issue a lot of analysts suffer from, God complex bc they are viewing the game from the ALL 22 in slow mo.

They forget that their are things like getting the wind knocked out of you the previous play, managing all of the pre snap stuff and guys bearing down on you trying to kill you.

Dak had a lot of head scratchers in the first half but the picks were not on him, as much as you want to try and reinvent the game.

So you are saying Dak had the wind knocked out of him on the plays prior to the INT's? Is that going to be the excuse for every bad play Dak has now?

Clearly Warner does not have a God complex as that is only thought up by those defiant in their delusional defense of Dak.
 

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Are you even looking to see what's going on behind the pocket while any receivers might be getting open late? I'm sure there is a good reason why Dak doesn't supposedly see a receiver getting open late. Probably under severe pressure or had already followed his progression to another receiver because the initial receiver did not get open early.
Nah ..he doesn't see the field from the all 22 perspective in slow mo like warner used to when he played lol

The year he threw 22 picks, his all 22 subscription expired. lol
 
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