Signed by Cowboys La'el Collins Extended

[Nightman]

Deal has a 4m signing bonus and a 2m escalator if he plays 85% of snaps

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article163536328.html

 

[zrinkill]

Larry Allen still benches over 400 pounds ........ and he is wider than Larry freaking Allen in the shoulders and chest area.

 

[Nightman]

Probably a little bit of retro "wink-wink we'll hook you up later" pay included in that.

ZMartin is set to earn 18m for his first 5 years as a mid FirstRd pick

LCollins will make 17-19m for his first 5 years if he makes it through as a UDFA

good to see that he didn't get penalized financially for a false story

 

[iceberg]

He's a fatty.

you've never seen him have you?

 

[iceberg]

ZMartin is set to earn 18m for his first 5 years as a mid FirstRd pick

LCollins will make 17-19m for his first 5 years if he makes it through as a UDFA

good to see that he didn't get penalized financially for a false story

oh he got penalized, but he's making up for it by keeping his head on straight and doing well on the field.

 

[haleyrules]

Good tactical move securing big Collins. I like this boy he has a mean streak...that good.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Martin is signed thru 2018 and already got his big 1st round signing bonus money......he is fine

we know we want him. he is key to the OL. its cheaper now than next year....its only one more year.....just see what happened in DC and cousins, when he was asking for 5 year 60 million with 44 guaranteed and they bulked. then he made 40 mill in two years and they have nothing.

 

[Iron_Man]

Love this signing. He is young in the position. They did not break the bank.

 

[AbeBeta]

The difference is you wanted to pay a guy who was playing left guard, then injured, never an all star. Now we've had him on a cheap deal and just signed him to what will still be a good deal for us while he's the starting RT. He didn't deserve the money at left guard when we had another left guard just as good.

You are making no sense. He still hasn't played a down at RT and hasn't shown he can stay healthy. The position is not the issue at all. Jerry was going to do right by him either way

 

[AbeBeta]

So let me get this straight

Jerry didn't do this ALL THE TIMES you said he would and did do it when you didn't say it?

Ok, you were wrong all those times and you're wrong now

Congratulations

And congrats to Collins

All the times we've gotten consensus top 20 pick as a UDFA?

Yes, I freely admit I was wrong all those other times. All zero of them.

 

[Nightman]

oh he got penalized, but he's making up for it by keeping his head on straight and doing well on the field.

the money will be the same as Martin's = No Penalty

 

[Denim Chicken]

Yes...... he was the 14th in the league in Hurries last year by all DL, including DEs and OLBs.... he is severely underrated around here and was our best pressure guy for most of the season until Irving passed him the last few weeks when he was banged up

And people are always grading his past performance based on his future pay........his cap number was 4.5m last year and he clearly outperformed that number....but people want to talk about him as a 9m a year player when this is the first year his cap number will be that high

In the future if he falls off then we can say it was an overpay but not yet

9 mil is his average yearly and what he should be judged off of. 2016 is was 16th in the league in hurries, which is OK, but 76th in the league in sacks. However, 2015 he was 62nd in hurries, in 2014 he was 97th. And he's been injured ever year.

I mean I know the constant position change hasn't done him any favors, but I wouldn't say we're severely underrating a guy out earning
Cliff Avril, Brandon Graham, Cameron Wake, etc…

 

[AbeBeta]

They actually save a good chunk of money by doing this instead of going the First round tender, then franchise tag route. I don't think you can give him a long term deal in 2019 with two (soon to be three) massive contracts on the offensive line already. So a franchise tag would've been in play.

2017 First Round Tender: 3.91 mil
2017 Franchise Tag for OL: 14.271 mil
Total: 2 years, 18.181 mil

This deal: 2 years, 15.4 mil

Savings: ~2.8 mil (but likely even more with the franchise tag for O-lineman increasing about 1 mil every year since 2013.)

Shrewd deal.

With what he's made, we paid him like the #7 overall pick in the 2015 draft. Likely a little higher than he would have gone but we are giving substantially less guaranteed.

 

[AsthmaField]

Larry Allen still benches over 400 pounds ........ and he is wider than Larry freaking Allen in the shoulders and chest area.

I'm older than Larry and I can bench more than that too.

Oh... never mind... I thought you had written 40.

Carry on.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Difference is...it is a two year extension. We didn't add 5 years, 45 million.

No the difference is we'd seen Crawford perform in actual games and stay relatively healthy versus what we've seen in Collins.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Or he pans out and the few complaining about will forget they did so.

I don't see virtually anyone complaining. I certainly am not.

 

[Aven8]

The deal that happened to him before the draft actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise. He got to pick his favorite team and play with the best Oline in football! Couldn't really ask for anything more!

 

[Proof]

I question those saying he hasn't earned it. He beat out Leary at LG two years in a row when money meant nothing. Only his injury allowed Leary on the field last season. The coaches have coached him for two years and experimented with him at multiple positions.

1. I feel confident he's proven himself to them, which explains the extension.
2. This is peanuts for a guy the coaches know extremely well compared to a first round tackle contract for guys who have truly not proven anything.

Not just that but it’s a cheaper deal with less years than the guy he beat @ guard. And now he’s playing tackle. It’s good faith, remove distraction, while not binding or crippling us moving forward. You also pay a slight premium on shorter deals. I don’t see how this can be viewed as anything other than a good move.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Larry Allen still benches over 400 pounds ........ and he is wider than Larry freaking Allen in the shoulders and chest area.

If size mattered, the elephant would be king of the jungle.

 

[Nova]

Deal seems a little early IMO.


Ultimately though, it's good that we probably don't have to think about the OL (Zack will get done) until at least 2020.

Helps us focus proper resources on rebuilding the defense.