Twitter: Lamb on James Washington: He's our deep threat guy, so be careful

[RonnieT24]

Faster than other players when they all have pads on.

Jerry Rice ran either a 4.6 or 4.7.

He was the #1 example I was thinking of. Then there were guys like Deion who frankly didn't seem to slow down even a little bit in pads. Now we know he did.. but you couldn't tell from watching him run. He made everyone else look like they were playing in army boots.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I'm only liking this because it's got a giraffe lol.

 

[TwentyOne]

I'm only liking this because it's got a giraffe lol.

 

[cnuball21]

Dudes a JAG…he’s not going to give us more than Noah does.

Lamb remains the only actual WR threat we have.

 

[Aven8]

I never saw anyone catch him in college so let the fun begin!

 

[Jarntt]

Defensive Coordinators of the NFL…..you have been warned!

 

[phildadon86]

Deep threat guy: Washington
50/50 guy: Gallup
Route/possession guy: Lamb
Jack of all trades guy: Brown

Not ideal, but not terrible either

When you factor in the TE's on this team. It looks much better.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Do we have a QB able to throw said ball to the new deep threat? I don't mean throwing a balloon deep, I mean the pigskin

 

[RonnieT24]

I never saw anyone catch him in college so let the fun begin!

Yeah but he played in the Big 12 where frankly the actual playing of defense has long been rumored to be against league rules. You can't judge anything from what you see guys doing in that conference.

 

[quickccc]

He officially ran a 4.54 at the combine. Draftscout has another time on him as 4.46 and whether it's an estimate or not 4.44 as his low. He reportedly ran a 4.50 at his proday. But regardless a 40 time only tells you what they run 40 yards in shorts. Some players are just faster on a field in pads and running farther than 40 yards. Some have build up speed. He got deep a lot at OK St. but in Pittsburgh Ben could no longer throw the ball deep.

A red flag concern with me with Washington was there were Steelers WR newcomers that arrived and surpassing him on the depth chart.
And this is the most lengthy 4-6 weeks broken foot injury i can ever remember.- especially for a guy that suffered the injury at the start of
training camp.

It's a wait and see, very low expectations, prove me wrong scenario with me.
heck i was wrong on Cedrick Wilson, Terrence Steele, and Cooper Rush - maybe JW will prove me wrong again ?
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[phildadon86]

When you put Shultz in there its great.

Top 10 WR receiver in the NFL as your #1, Top 10 pass catching TE, Very good #2 level receiver, Jack of all trades blocking WR. Dont underestimate Browns ability to set the edge in the run game by blocking down on a DE or LB.

I do think we could add a speedster deep threat type guy. A burner.

Thats where Cooks would have been nice. Not at that crazy price tag though.

 

[quickccc]

Yeah but he played in the Big 12 where frankly the actual playing of defense has long been rumored to be against league rules. You can't judge anything from what you see guys doing in that conference.

That would include CeeDee Lamb lighting it up with Lincoln Riley's Sooners as well.
Would that make Lamb overrated ?

 

[RonnieT24]

That would include CeeDee Lamb lighting it up with Lincoln Riley's Sooners as well.
Would that make Lamb overrated ?

No but I said the same thing about him.. I said when we drafted him that we shouldn't expect to see him out there breaking tackles, punkin NFL defenders, jukin them out of their socks, and running by them game after game the way we saw him doing in college. I would say for the most part it has played out exactly that way. Yes he has occasionally been able to break a tackle, especially here lately, and he has run past a defender once or twice but at no time has it happened with even 1/10th the frequency he did it in college. But he has been a lot closer to that player since the courtship of you know who started. Maybe a little extra motivation was all he needed.

 

[XXLMike]

Why not Turpin deep ?

 

[JBond]

He officially ran a 4.54 at the combine. Draftscout has another time on him as 4.46 and whether it's an estimate or not 4.44 as his low. He reportedly ran a 4.50 at his proday. But regardless a 40 time only tells you what they run 40 yards in shorts. Some players are just faster on a field in pads and running farther than 40 yards. Some have build up speed. He got deep a lot at OK St. but in Pittsburgh Ben could no longer throw the ball deep.

Running in shorts is useful, but I would love if the combine ran two sets. The second in full pads they played with in college. Some body types carry the pads better than others.

 

[quickccc]

No but I said the same thing about him.. I said when we drafted him that we shouldn't expect to see him out there breaking tackles, punkin NFL defenders, jukin them out of their socks, and running by them game after game the way we saw him doing in college. I would say for the most part it has played out exactly that way. Yes he has occasionally been able to break a tackle, especially here lately, and he has run past a defender once or twice but at no time has it happened with even 1/10th the frequency he did it in college. But he has been a lot closer to that player since the courtship of you know who started. Maybe a little extra motivation was all he needed.

Maybe it's helped with a much more better QB/OC effort to get him the ball, and "scheme-design' - even if it's an unbalanced sets
- ala jet sweeps,.. bubble screens,. lining up him up in backfield,. getting "carries" ...etc.

- Move him around from outside to slot, bunch formations, rub routes, back-shoulder fades.
- if he has the critical dropsies or busted routes that lead to INTs, that's on him to step it up.
What i am seeing is he's a lot tougher, durable than what his slim frame would suggest,

Although i will continue to say, ..it's a difference between a lead, featured WR ...and a " elite" featured, lead WR.
The best, more elite WRs can compete, win vs the better coverage CBs.

That's a combined mentality and skill set that makes you one of the very best in the NFL, and usually gets/earns you
one of the highest paid contracts at that position in the NFL.

 

[Aven8]

Yeah but he played in the Big 12 where frankly the actual playing of defense has long been rumored to be against league rules. You can't judge anything from what you see guys doing in that conference.

Yeah those bums like Mahomes, Lamb, Dez, on and on…..

 

[eromeopolk]

It’s not Kool-Aid it’s tape. His college and NFL tape show a guy who’s a deep threat. His times numbers in shorts don’t define his deep ability.

Watch James Washington NFL highlights. It’s all deep passes and running away from DB’s lol. I’ll never get people who just use combine numbers and refuse to watch what a player has actually put on film in the league. Dude averaged 14 a catch lol that’s what deep threats do.

Just giving you the facts. This is the NFL (Not For Long). He could not get separation in the NFL. Do you think the Steelers would let go a deep threat WR that consistently got separation. He could not get to 4th on the depth chart after Antonio Brown left when Big Ben was at QB.

You would do better or the same signing Dez Bryant off the street. Dez likes him because he was a OSU Cowboy. But lets not make him what he is not. He is a big body WR that has wiggle but not separation, acceleration, and 4.4 or less 40yd speed.

In college deep speed is 18+ yards per catch close to it or above it. See Jaylen Waddle, or Henry Ruggs as examples.

 

[817Gill]

Just giving you the facts. This is the NFL (Not For Long). He could not get separation in the NFL. Do you think the Steelers would let go a deep threat WR that consistently got separation. He could not get to 4th on the depth chart after Antonio Brown left when Big Ben was at QB.

You would do better or the same signing Dez Bryant off the street. Dez likes him because he was a OSU Cowboy. But lets not make him what he is not. He is a big body WR that has wiggle but not separation, acceleration, and 4.4 or less 40yd speed.

In college deep speed is 18+ yards per catch close to it or above it. See Jaylen Waddle, or Henry Ruggs as examples.

My dude watch his highlights lol his average depth of target was 15 yards. That’s up there with the better deep threats in the league.

And do you watch Pittsburgh man? Ben could not throw down the field, they surrounded him with short area quickness guys. You know who led the team in targets Ben’s last year? Ray Ray freakin McCloud who caught more passes behind the line of scrimmage than any player in the league that year.

It’s not hard to understand why Pittsburg let him go. Washington does one thing and it’s get downfield, the Steelers don’t do one thing and it’s throw downfield. 1+1=2.

Don’t even know why you keep bringing up college? His ADOT is from the NFL. The highlights I linked are his NFL highlights. Just go watch his games man, most of his success was downfield passing and jump balls. Not sure why you keep ignoring the actual NFL tape he has lol. If you watch the tape and think him catching deep passes is him not catching deep passes then I don’t know what to tell you.

Just because he’s not Henry Ruggs doesn’t mean he’s not a deep threat. The facts are he’s a 14 yard per reception and a 15 yard ADOT guy in the NFL. Those are deep threat numbers simple and plain.

 

[RonnieT24]

Yeah those bums like Mahomes, Lamb, Dez, on and on…..

I didn't say the conference doesn't turn out ANY great players. I simply stated that watching them in that conference can be misleading because they don't see a lot of good defenses there. So you have to look a little closer at what a player is doing and try to extrapolate it into the NFL. Obviously some guys translate better and faster than others. But some never rise above being known for stealin underwear and cologne.