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The thing that concerns me is which player currently on our squad does San Fran have their eye on? Anyone else think the 9ers go after one of our bubble players after cuts?
 

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I have in fact, on many times said what I would do....

Bookmark this so you don't try the "you've offered no soultions line"

My alternative is to sign a much cheaper QB and have the same success that we have with Dak while looking for an actual QB that's worth that top pay. As I said you can lead the NFL in INTs and fail in the playoffs for much cheaper than you're paying Dak.

I don't think it's as difficult as some want to make it. The only thing that makes it difficult is hitching your wagons to a QB that needs a ton of help like the Cowboys have done for the past 15 years with Dak and Romo. Even then if you want to you can be on the hunt for your future QB. The last time the Cowboys took the QB position seriously was when they drafted Aikman.

I use the Rams as an example all the time. If Goff played for the Cowboys and led us to the Super Bowl like he did the Rams he would've been our QB for the next 15 years. Instead, the Rams knew he was a weak link, moved on, traded for Stafford, and instantly won the Super Bowl. Jerry would've NEVER moved on from that. That's an example of a team making a trade to get a missing piece.

Here's the other route the Cowboys refuse to do.... The Cowboys would've never traded up to draft Mahomes in a year that Alex Smith led them to the playoffs. Jerry and Co would have been 100% happy with that and would think they just need to put more help around Smith refusing to see that Smith is the weakness here. That's an example of a team taking a chance and drafting a QB, letting him sit a year, and then giving him the chance.

Then you have the Bucs and Brady. The Bucs moved on from Winston and signed Brady and instantly won the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could've signed Brady, but they didn't, because they didn't want to risk it or move on from Dak. That's an example of a team signing a high level veteran QB and it changing the whole franchise.

The last 3 Super Bowl champs have been teams that were taking the QB position seriously and either draft, sign, or trade for a QB while moving on from a weak link at the position.

So, it's simple really to me. You draft, sign, or trade for a QB. If it doesn't work out then oh well, because it's not working out with Dak either, but you have to take the risks to get the rewards.
So basically just trade up in the draft and take the best QB possible until you find one EVERY year? You act like the money and team assets are yours. LOL

Brady would've never played for the Cowboys....

Who is the cheaper QB that is guaranteed to get us the same results?

Still not seeing any realistic solutions, you are just nailing jelly to a tree and acting like you know what you are talking about.
 

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So basically just trade up in the draft and take the best QB possible until you find one EVERY year? You act like the money and team assets are yours. LOL

Brady would've never played for the Cowboys....

Who is the cheaper QB that is guaranteed to get us the same results?

Still not seeing any realistic solutions, you are just nailing jelly to a tree and acting like you know what you are talking about.
You're a "We have Alex Smith why trade up for Mahomes" type aren't ya?

Dak fans are not Cowboys fans.
 

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For that same scenario to come to fruition:
  1. Dak Prescott must be the starter and get injured
  2. The backup quarterback must sustain an injury afterwards
  3. Trey Lance performing at the level of Prescott in 2016 or higher, which will instill 100% confidence and support from Jerry Jones, who would not support Prescott returning to the starting lineup after getting medical clearance to regain his job.
Something similar happened in San Francisco last season but it is rare for such events to happen.
Wow….. Dak was incredibly fortunate to be the Cowboys starting quarterback. I will never understand why Romo was playing against Seattle Seahawks defense with his injury history.
 

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You're a "We have Alex Smith why trade up for Mahomes" type aren't ya?

Dak fans are not Cowboys fans.

Still unable to answer. For the record, I am not a blind Dak homer. I think he has a lot of flaws and has profited too much off his position without competition. They also paid him too much. Does that make sense to you?

I also don't think you should mortgage everything in "hopes" to find the next Mahomes. Teams have been trying to do that since the NFL was founded and haven't really been able to. San Fran did it with Lance. Do you not think that won't come back to bite them eventually?

Again, sure bring in a better QB but don't go around hee-hawing that Trey Lance is better than Dak. That's just nuts.
 

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Still unable to answer. For the record, I am not a blind Dak homer. I think he has a lot of flaws and has profited too much off his position without competition. They also paid him too much. Does that make sense to you?

I also don't think you should mortgage everything in "hopes" to find the next Mahomes. Teams have been trying to do that since the NFL was founded and haven't really been able to. San Fran did it with Lance. Do you not think that won't come back to bite them eventually?

Again, sure bring in a better QB but don't go around hee-hawing that Trey Lance is better than Dak. That's just nuts.
I never said Lance is better than Dak.

Lance is not Dak and that's enough for me.

Lance in unknown right now. Dak is a loser.

Give me the unknown over the proven loser any day.
 

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Lance is still raw but I’m excited for what he might bring to this team and I think everyone should be. I see far too many Dak fanboys already dismissing him due to how he “failed” in SF. He didn’t get a shot! Let’s give Lance a fair chance in Dallas and not run him out of town. I hope Dak has welcomed him to the team already. Show some leadership for a change!
This fanbase wants a gossamer perceived leadership over status quo. They're so thirsty for a change based on emotions and not reality they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.

But the fact is this. Fans here don't drink the sand of every QB other than what they currently have because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference between what they have and a wink and a kiss from Jerry.
 

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Lance is a terrible QB right now and in no way will supplant Dak. Maybe in 2 years if he develops a little. Dak will be getting an extension soon. You are going to have to deal with Dak probably 3 more years at least.
Then we’ll all have to deal with no SB in the next 3 years.
 

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I never said Lance is better than Dak.

Lance is not Dak and that's enough for me.

Lance in unknown right now. Dak is a loser.

Give me the unknown over the proven loser any day.
So you basically admit you would take the chance of a decade of unknowns like Henson, Hutchinson, etc and more than likely going 4-13 every year over Dak and what he brings? (i.e., proven top 10 QB play)

You would take the unknown for 10 years with no guarantee of finding a guy better than Dak? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
 

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It just felt like deja vu with this trade. I remember when Dak got drafted everybody thought it was going to be 3 years before he would see the field. And no one thought of him as a franchise QB but more of a project. Just saying...
And he’s still a project after 8 years.
 

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Then we’ll all have to deal with no SB in the next 3 years.
There's no guarantee for a super bowl, no matter who the QB is outside of Mahomes.... 1 guy on the planet pretty much. Everyone's solution is to get Mahomes. LOL We get it..

Wouldn't it just be easier for you guys to become Chiefs fans?
 

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Lance is not Dak and that's enough for me.
Any credibility you may have had prior to this is out the window. This is not about the team. This is about the emotional vacuum you inject in every thread because of a man you have never met.
 

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Naw, just reality. I am for finding a better QB than Dak. They should always be trying to find the next guy. Hopefully to avoid the mistake they made with Aikman. I've watched this team long enough to know what it looks like without a viable QB. You've seemed to let your ideology blind you to that fact. Right now Dak is viable, maybe he will or won't win it all but the team is competitive with him at QB. Until you replace him with someone better, it's just a bunch of BS you are spewing.
Viable if your ultimate goal is not getting to a SB.
 

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So you basically admit you would take the chance of a decade of unknowns like Henson, Hutchinson, etc and more than likely going 4-13 every year over Dak and what he brings? (i.e., proven top 10 QB play)

You would take the unknown for 10 years with no guarantee of finding a guy better than Dak? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
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You don't know those guys suck unless you throw em out there.

We know Dak sucks.

This is what I mean when I said you're a "We have Alex Smith why trade up for Mahomes" type.

You wanna play it safe. You've become comfortable in the mediocrity.
 

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Any credibility you may have had prior to this is out the window. This is not about the team. This is about the emotional vacuum you inject in every thread because of a man you have never met.
As if I care if Dak fans think I'm credible or not.

Dak fans are not Cowboys fans.

We are not on the same team.
 

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Lance is still raw but I’m excited for what he might bring to this team and I think everyone should be. I see far too many Dak fanboys already dismissing him due to how he “failed” in SF. He didn’t get a shot! Let’s give Lance a fair chance in Dallas and not run him out of town. I hope Dak has welcomed him to the team already. Show some leadership for a change!
We already was a waterboy under contract through 2026.................
 

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I understand that some people see hope in that there may be a viable option to Dakota. I get that.

But to me it’s like trading in a Yugo for a Pinto……no real hope of improvement.

a “has been” for a “never was”.
 

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You don't know those guys suck unless you throw em out there.

We know Dak sucks.

This is what I mean when I said you're a "We have Alex Smith why trade up for Mahomes" type.

You wanna play it safe. You've become comfortable in the mediocrity.
I just said I want to see them bring in competition and try to find the next guy. What are you not getting here?

I just think your solution of throwing gravel against the wall and hoping for the best is a bad one. It's just illogical, drama-filled hopes and dreams that would more than likely be a total disaster. You have to scout/draft, continually look. If you are 100% sure about a guy in the draft.. OK trade up and get him but there is just as much of a chance of busting like the 49ers did also...You can't do that often.

..and NO I do not want to go through those post Aikman years again. Give me Dak and a FO that tries to build a great team and makes moves to develop the next guy. Hopefully Lance is the next guy but it's going to take some time.
 

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You don't know those guys suck unless you throw em out there.

We know Dak sucks.

This is what I mean when I said you're a "We have Alex Smith why trade up for Mahomes" type.

You wanna play it safe. You've become comfortable in the mediocrity.
We already know Prescot is a loser of meaningful games and know upper management is going to attempt to replace this loser with another proven loser???????? This is why for 3 decades this organization hasn't been to the big dance..................
 
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