Laurence Gibson

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know it is laughable but he looks like ground zero and to justify putting him on your 53 would IMO jeopardize your job status as a coach and GM.

I disagree. I think he has developed the footwork to be an effective RT. I think he is a work in progress with th LT. He was ground zero but I ahve seen improvement on the right side.

 

[xwalker]

I know it is laughable but he looks like ground zero and to justify putting him on your 53 would IMO jeopardize your job status as a coach and GM.

They kept a developmental-only OL the past few years. The signed Weems in December 2012 and kept him on the 53 all of 2013. He was always inactive because Parnell was the backup OT. In 2014 Weems went to IR but the kept Hawkins all season on the 53. Several years ago it was Brewster as the 4th inactive OT for a couple of years.

 

[RS12]

Sorry Fuzz, Fishers says they cut him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry Fuzz, Fishers says they cut him.

It's all good. I can understand it as he is not NFL ready. I just don't think Weems is either. I was thinking he would be a good developmental prospect as I watched him improve. I have confidence in Garrett, Stephen, and McClay though especially when it comes to OL.

 

[Stash]

Sorry Fuzz, Fishers says they cut him.

I think that's Fisher's best guess and not anything official. I think it's being misinterpreted.

 

[xwalker]

I think that's Fisher's best guess and not anything official. I think it's being misinterpreted.

This. His list is a guess.

 

[Macnalty]

I disagree. I think he has developed the footwork to be an effective RT. I think he is a work in progress with th LT. He was ground zero but I ahve seen improvement on the right side.

I want him on the PS just not on the 53 final roster. Walker made a good point we kept Weems last year, I think I had no idea how unpolished he was in 2014.

 

[Stash]

I want him on the PS just not on the 53 final roster. Walker made a good point we kept Weems last year, I think I had no idea how unpolished he was in 2014.

So you're OK with losing him?

 

[Macnalty]

So you're OK with losing him?

If it was between him and Swaim yes, I feel like he does not show well and that other teams will not be interested.Think about his future with us... RT well what about Green, Guard well who do we lose Collins or Martin, now Weems should be concerned if we keep him, backup to the backup swingman should be on the PS. I like him just think he deserves to be on PS.

 

[speedkilz88]

They kept a developmental-only OL the past few years. The signed Weems in December 2012 and kept him on the 53 all of 2013. He was always inactive because Parnell was the backup OT. In 2014 Weems went to IR but the kept Hawkins all season on the 53. Several years ago it was Brewster as the 4th inactive OT for a couple of years.

It was strange that they kept Hawkins and Hills all season and then decided that neither were worthy to take to camp. Scratch my head over that one.

 

[Stash]

If it was between him and Swaim yes, I feel like he does not show well and that other teams will not be interested.

No, I'm talking Gibson or Jeff Heath or Danny McCray. Or Gibson vs the 11th defensive lineman.

Think about his future with us... RT well what about Green, Guard well who do we lose Collins or Martin, now Weems should be concerned if we keep him, backup to the backup swingman should be on the PS. I like him just think he deserves to be on PS.

I fear you won't get him there.

 

[xwalker]

It was strange that they kept Hawkins and Hills all season and then decided that neither were worthy to take to camp. Scratch my head over that one.

I figure Hawkins must have failed the off-season workout requirements. He was cut in April.

 

[fortdick]

They could do some things to help Weems at LT but they didn't in the preseason games. Keeping a TE on that side forces allows the OT to know if that guy is rushing outside or inside. If Weems can know ahead of time if the pass rusher is rushing inside or outside I think he can do much better. It's his indecision on protecting the inside or outside that caused many of his fails.

Also having him play next to a veteran (Leary or Martin) would be really helpful on the stunts. If Doug Free had to play LT next to Ronald Patrick at LG it would be ugly for him also.

Knew that a thread about tackles would have XWalker digging at Free. Just had to wait until the second post. He couldn't help himself, but I praise him waiting.

 

[xwalker]

Knew that a thread about tackles would have XWalker digging at Free. Just had to wait until the second post. He couldn't help himself, but I praise him waiting.

Is it wrong? Can you imagine Free at LT next to some UDFA at LG?

 

[jobberone]

Cut

 

[reddyuta]

here's hoping Free stays healthy .

 

[Manwiththeplan]

while I think we can all agree he is not ready to play in a game, I do think.he's good enough that some team will claim him as a project.

Remember, we stole the Saints project in Parnell off their practice squad

 

[Manster68]

Like most people I watched the game and thought Gibson was godawful. I saw him get bullrushed into Vaughn. I watched him use poor footwork and fall down. I watched the 3 holding calls.

The thing is I rewatched the game and started doing my routine of watching each play 2 or 3 times to see how the lines and skill position guys were doing. Thing that stood out to me was the Gibson started out at RT and for the first few series I thought he played well. He was getting to guys on the second level. Beating the rush to the edge and driving the LDE in the run game. Then he switched to LT.

That is when the wheels fell off and well we all saw it and it wasn't pretty. First thing that I noticed from the beginning this offseason is that he is awkward in his stance and not comfortable with his footwork. That is still very much the case from the left side. OTOH, on the right side he now looks comfortable in his kickslide and such.

This may be somewhat controversial but I would like for them to keep him and continue to develop him. He needs to improve his flexibility still but his strength and agility is remarkable when he is technically sound. Further, I feel like despite his struggles on the left side that he has made considerable progress on the right side.

I was hoping that the coaching staff would move Gibson inside to guard and let him use his beef as a backup for Leary and Martin. Collins could then move out to tackle. It did not happen that way though.

As your favorite team gets better, it becomes more difficult for later round draft picks to make the team.

 

[Macnalty]

No, I'm talking Gibson or Jeff Heath or Danny McCray. Or Gibson vs the 11th defensive lineman.



I fear you won't get him there.

This year has been difficult with the cuts lets keep our fingers crossed for about 24 hrs to see if we can get him back, I am not down on Heath so much but agree about McCray and the 11th DLman.

 

[Bluefin]

I figure Hawkins must have failed the off-season workout requirements. He was cut in April.

I was surprised Dallas didn't deem Donald Hawkins worthy of participating in the off-season program/training camp.

Hawkins is listed at OT, I always thought he should inside to G.

He was among the Miami Dolphins' waived players today.

As your favorite team gets better, it becomes more difficult for later round draft picks to make the team.

And I hope it keeps getting harder.

We are another solid off-season (free agency, draft) away from having a very strong 53.