Laurence Gibson

[Nightman]

Gibson made it through 7 rounds of the draft and didn't show much in pre-season.

He will make it to the PS unless he wants to be on another team

 

[xwalker]

I was surprised Dallas didn't deem Donald Hawkins worthy of participating in the off-season program/training camp.

Hawkins is listed at OT, I always thought he should inside to G.

He was among the Miami Dolphins' waived players today.

Yes, cuts at that time of year (April/May) are always odd to me. What could they know in April that they didn't know last season?

I assume it was breaking rules or being out of shape (not participating in the off-season conditioning).

 

[dallasdave]

Gibson made it through 7 rounds of the draft and didn't show much in pre-season.

He will make it to the PS unless he wants to be on another team

He might develop if he has a year on PS

 

[dallasdave]

I thought they should have moved him to RG and backup Martin.....Definately looks better on the right side. Agree...he just doesn't look like LT material. Won't be shocked to see him get cut today.....but he could a PS guy for sure.

LT is the hardest position to play on OL.

 

[LatinMind]

Like most people I watched the game and thought Gibson was godawful. I saw him get bullrushed into Vaughn. I watched him use poor footwork and fall down. I watched the 3 holding calls.

The thing is I rewatched the game and started doing my routine of watching each play 2 or 3 times to see how the lines and skill position guys were doing. Thing that stood out to me was the Gibson started out at RT and for the first few series I thought he played well. He was getting to guys on the second level. Beating the rush to the edge and driving the LDE in the run game. Then he switched to LT.

That is when the wheels fell off and well we all saw it and it wasn't pretty. First thing that I noticed from the beginning this offseason is that he is awkward in his stance and not comfortable with his footwork. That is still very much the case from the left side. OTOH, on the right side he now looks comfortable in his kickslide and such.

This may be somewhat controversial but I would like for them to keep him and continue to develop him. He needs to improve his flexibility still but his strength and agility is remarkable when he is technically sound. Further, I feel like despite his struggles on the left side that he has made considerable progress on the right side.

Thats why they keep swing tackles. Guys who can man both spots not just one. Cutting a OL spot to dedicate to the DL. It amazes me just how much fans dont comprehemd how this runs its personel. Especially when it comes to OL and DL. the biggest thing is are you posistion flexible. i ur only able to play 1 posistion ur most likely not making this team unles ur nick hayden

 

[AbeBeta]

Gibson made it through 7 rounds of the draft and didn't show much in pre-season.

He will make it to the PS unless he wants to be on another team

You get an OL in your system for TC and he performs poorly... Few teams are jumping at him for the 53. Even if you like him, he's basically a free agent on another PS.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He might develop if he has a year on PS

I think he will develop on the PS. The Cowboys loved him he just needs a year to get stronger and learn the pro game. That's what you get in the 7th round.

 

[Bullflop]

The team knew he was raw when they drafted him in the 7th round, so it's no big surprise nor a big letdown that he got waived. He'll receive strength conditioning in the meantime but that's what offseasons are for. He'll likely be considerably stronger next season for the Cowboys if and when he clears waivers and returns to the PS. If it worked for Doug Free, there's no reason why it wouldn't work for him as well. There's cause to hope here.

 

[fortdick]

Is it wrong? Can you imagine Free at LT next to some UDFA at LG?

What are you doing with Leary? Besides, I was complimenting you on not going to bash Free in the first post. I thought it showed restraint.

 

[speedkilz88]

Ronald Leary had to go to the practice squad as a rookie. Finally picked up towards the end when other teams started to sniff around.

 

[xwalker]

What are you doing with Leary? Besides, I was complimenting you on not going to bash Free in the first post. I thought it showed restraint.

Nothing with Leary, my point is that it would be very difficult to play LT if the LG was a UDFA with no NFL experience. An elite player like Tyron would manage but an average player like Free would struggle.

I love to go over the top with my Free criticisms because some people don't like it. Yes, I'm not a fan of him, but he is a "good enough" player and you can win if you have a few of those on your team.

The reason I always posted about Parnell was not just about the player specifically, but he made for a great debate topic. He developed into a really good player but people couldn't see it because nobody in the media was spoon feeding it to them and he didn't fit the standard profile. Fans and media tend to follow a certain path in developing narratives about players. Right now they love love love La'el Collins because the Cowboys got a "free" 1st round talent; however, if he sits on the bench past a certain amount of time (maybe 2 years) then fans and media was begin to hate him like they hate Escobar. Parnell didn't fit in the standard timeline of being a starter within a certain amount of time so fans/media concluded that he must suck similar to how many make that conclusion with Escobar. Obviously if you look deeper, it was basically impossible for him to fit into a standard timeline because he only played 6 total games of college football and that was as a backup DE. Fans also like to take 1 or 2 very obvious bad plays by a player and use that to conclude that the player must be terrible. People are already dogging on Byron Jones for giving up 1 TD in a preseason game. Most of those people didn't like the Jones pick from the beginning so they attempt to start a narrative that Jones is not a good player.

Some players are liked by some media people and get an extra benefit of the doubt. I think Free fits in that category. Broaddus and Mickey won't criticize him which leads to fans and other media not criticizing him. Broaddus and Mickey always repeat that Free is a great leader anytime his name is mentioned. That's code for we like him so we're going to reach for reasons to compliment him. Sometimes it's the opposite like with Mike Fisher and Rolando McClain. Fisher has been on him since he got here. Fisher has a (negative) obsession with this one player.

The real comedy is that at the beginning of training camp last year, before Weems got injured, Broaddus and Mickey claimed that Weems would probably beat out Parnell for the backup OT position and that the Cowboys would probably cut Parnell. I think watching those players now, that anybody can see that was never reality. It was just clueless buffoonery.

p.s. Yes, I over analyze anything that I find interesting. I can't play fantasy football because I would spend an infinite amount of time over analyzing it.

 

[CCBoy]

Nothing with Leary, my point is that it would be very difficult to play LT if the LG was a UDFA with no NFL experience. An elite player like Tyron would manage but an average player like Free would struggle.

I love to go over the top with my Free criticisms because some people don't like it. Yes, I'm not a fan of him, but he is a "good enough" player and you can win if you have a few of those on your team.

The reason I always posted about Parnell was not just about the player specifically, but he made for a great debate topic. He developed into a really good player but people couldn't see it because nobody in the media was spoon feeding it to them and he didn't fit the standard profile. Fans and media tend to follow a certain path in developing narratives about players. Right now they love love love La'el Collins because the Cowboys got a "free" 1st round talent; however, if he sits on the bench past a certain amount of time (maybe 2 years) then fans and media was begin to hate him like they hate Escobar. Parnell didn't fit in the standard timeline of being a starter within a certain amount of time so fans/media concluded that he must suck similar to how many make that conclusion with Escobar. Obviously if you look deeper, it was basically impossible for him to fit into a standard timeline because he only played 6 total games of college football and that was as a backup DE. Fans also like to take 1 or 2 very obvious bad plays by a player and use that to conclude that the player must be terrible. People are already dogging on Byron Jones for giving up 1 TD in a preseason game. Most of those people didn't like the Jones pick from the beginning so they attempt to start a narrative that Jones is not a good player.

Some players are liked by some media people and get an extra benefit of the doubt. I think Free fits in that category. Broaddus and Mickey won't criticize him which leads to fans and other media not criticizing him. Broaddus and Mickey always repeat that Free is a great leader anytime his name is mentioned. That's code for we like him so we're going to reach for reasons to compliment him. Sometimes it's the opposite like with Mike Fisher and Rolando McClain. Fisher has been on him since he got here. Fisher has a (negative) obsession with this one player.

The real comedy is that at the beginning of training camp last year, before Weems got injured, Broaddus and Mickey claimed that Weems would probably beat out Parnell for the backup OT position and that the Cowboys would probably cut Parnell. I think watching those players now, that anybody can see that was never reality. It was just clueless buffoonery.

p.s. Yes, I over analyze anything that I find interesting. I can't play fantasy football because I would spend an infinite amount of time over analyzing it.

X, nothing wrong with fine tuning facts and observations. One develops a much better ability to follow real time actions and catch real factors that shape what just went down on the carpet.

Our friend, no apology is needed for clarity in our chosen sport...

 

[Cowboys22]

People say Dallas should have drafted Rawls instead of Swaim but after taking Green in the 3rd, Rawls would have been a very nice pick instead of Gibson. The draft would have been a slam dunk success even more that it is if that would have happened.

 

[BAT]

People say Dallas should have drafted Rawls instead of Swaim but after taking Green in the 3rd, Rawls would have been a very nice pick instead of Gibson. The draft would have been a slam dunk success even more that it is if that would have happened.

Rawls would have been not only the best pick, he was the correct pick over Gibson. Cowboys got greedy, thinking they could get both.

Right now would rather have Isaiah Battle over Gibson.

 

[Bluefin]

Right now would rather have Isaiah Battle over Gibson.

He was among the St. Louis Rams' cuts yesterday.

St. Louis Rams
Cuts to 53: T Isaiah Battle

 

[BAT]

He was among the St. Louis Rams' cuts yesterday.

The guy has serious issues but he is athletic and versatile, but definitely lives up to his name.

 

[Nightman]

He was among the St. Louis Rams' cuts yesterday.

Didn't they take him in the Supplemental Draft this year???

 

[Bluefin]

Didn't they take him in the Supplemental Draft this year???

Yes.

They used a 2016 5th round selection to select him in the supplemental draft.

 

[Bluefin]

The guy has serious issues but he is athletic and versatile, but definitely lives up to his name.

Just doing a quick check, I saw two suspensions and a citation for marijuana possession prior to Isaiah Battle leaving Clemson last spring to address "family matters."

Even if Dallas has any interest, they are 27th on waiver claims, so it is very unlikely.

I'll be happy if Laurence Gibson is re-signed to the practice squad. He's a project, but appears worth developing.

 

[xwalker]

Rawls would have been not only the best pick, he was the correct pick over Gibson. Cowboys got greedy, thinking they could get both.

Right now would rather have Isaiah Battle over Gibson.

Should have drafted Tom Brady in the 6th way back when...