LB A. Pierce comment on Dallas rb

[Rack]

I find it funny that there is actually someone thick-headed enough to completely discount the fact that TWO coaching staffs have chosen to start JJ over MBIII.

I've already pointed out why MB3 isn't starting, Chico. Maybe you should learn to read.


And how many carries was JuJo getting at the end of last year compared to MB3?

 

[Doomsday]

Who has been getting all the carries in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line? MB3! It seems like the game plan is to use JJ early, then bring in Barber to finish the game when it counts. Dont think that indicates that 2 coaching staffs like JJ better then MB3.

 

[superpunk]

Who has been getting all the carries in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line? MB3!

Actually, on sunday night Julius got those carries.

And he promptly ran out of bounds.

 

[Hac Ptui]

Actually, on sunday night Julius got those carries.

And he promptly ran out of bounds.

:laugh2:

 

[Hoofbite]

Wow, it sure would be silly to expect their 1000 yard back to produce more than their 600 yard back.

The fact is that they have gone to a very different "system" of using the backs. This isn't the same way they were used last year. But Julius still starts. They have "messed with success" and come to the conclusion that JJ starts.

Since when is yardage the only indication of production?

And once again, Julius is still "starting" because the team got more then enough production with the rotation that they used last year. The rotation has not changed because it worked last year.

 

[Alexander]

Actually, on sunday night Julius got those carries.

And he promptly ran out of bounds.

It doesn't matter any more. Eventually, Barber's play will dictate a shift in philosophy. Production and effort like he showed and Jones didn't will eventually get addressed.

Right now, I do not think the coaching staff is in the mood to fix something that really isn't broken and is the least of their problems to tackle.

However, many more pathetic cases like what you just mentioned, their hand might be forced. But as long as it all comes out in the wash, there isn't going to be a lot of mental thought put into it.

Fans care much more about this than they do from what I can see.

 

[percyhoward]

By the way, after Madden said that about MB3's (right after) success rate on 3rd and short last season... he scored an 18 yard TD run on - you guessed it - 3rd and short.

That was great timing. And that graphic was misleading anyway, because almost all the guys ahead of Barber had fewer attempts than he did.

The graphics they didn't show was that Barber had the 2nd fewest stuffs per carry, and that he led all running backs last year in first downs per carry (minimum 100 rushes). 34% of his carries last year resulted in first downs.

 

[AbeBeta]

I've already pointed out why MB3 isn't starting, Chico. Maybe you should learn to read.


And how many carries was JuJo getting at the end of last year compared to MB3?

Yes, I've read your excuses about why MBIII isn't starting. I just don't agree with your "logic"

Carries at the end of last year? Didn't our last game take place in Seattle - and didn't Julius have 22 carries vs. Barber's 3?

But hey, what's a playoff game tell you about who is the #1 back on a team?

 

[AbeBeta]

Since when is yardage the only indication of production?

And once again, Julius is still "starting" because the team got more then enough production with the rotation that they used last year. The rotation has not changed because it worked last year.

I see. So if MBIII is so much better wouldn't it stand to reason that you'd want him playing MORE? Why rotate if you have a top guy? So that JJ's feelings don't get hurt?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Put me on record now as saying McFadden can rush for 3000 yards,

:laugh2: :laugh1:

Quick, someone write that down!

 

[Doomsday101]

This coaching staff already is using Barber different from the last coaching staff and I do expect to see the numbers of carries for each back being a lot closer than before. No doubt we will continue to run a 2 back system but I do think Barber will have a bigger role than he had in the past if the last game is any indication.

 

[kmd24]

And then why would JJ's performance say something about him rather than the OL?

You are missing my point. Short yardage success or failure when compared between teams is more likely to be a strong function of the OL than a strong function of the RB. You can't compare MBIII's short yardage numbers to, say, Joseph Addai's and draw any meaningful conclusions about their relative abilities as short yardage backs. IOW, the stat flashed by NBC is an indictment of the 2006 Dallas OL and not of MBIII.

It would be meaningful to compare JJ to MBIII in short yardage since they have the same OL, but I think JJ's sample size (at least from 2006) is too small to be meaningful.

 

[Rack]

That was great timing. And that graphic was misleading anyway, because almost all the guys ahead of Barber had fewer attempts than he did.

The graphics they didn't show was that Barber had the 2nd fewest stuffs per carry, and that he led all running backs last year in first downs per carry (minimum 100 rushes). 34% of his carries last year resulted in first downs.

Booyah!

Yes, I've read your excuses about why MBIII isn't starting. I just don't agree with your "logic"

Carries at the end of last year? Didn't our last game take place in Seattle - and didn't Julius have 22 carries vs. Barber's 3?

But hey, what's a playoff game tell you about who is the #1 back on a team?

Yes, point out one game whereas I pointed out many.


Talk about shady "logic".


I'm not saying MB3 should start, I like him in the role he's in now. But he IS a better RB then JuJo. What we need is a better starter, and leave MB3 where he's at.


But anyone that isn't completely IGNORANT can PLAINLY see that the better RB is Barber.

 

[AbeBeta]

Booyah!




Yes, point out one game whereas I pointed out many.


Talk about shady "logic".

Let's see -- when did MBIII get more carries last year -- out of 17 games last year, I see TWO games. Any one was a blowout vs TB.

What do many mean?

 

[Rack]

Let's see -- when did MBIII get more carries last year -- out of 17 games last year, I see TWO games. Any one was a blowout vs TB.

What do many mean?

Yeah like you actually went and checked how many 4th quarter carries each RB got last year.


It's common knowledge MB3 was "The Closer" last year.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yeah like you actually went and checked how many 4th quarter carries each RB got last year.


It's common knowledge MB3 was "The Closer" last year.

Your statement was

And how many carries was JuJo getting at the end of last year compared to MB3?

Now you want to change the question because you are wrong?

 

[Bleu Star]

The new staff actually was non committal on who the starter is. Wade stated that they will let packages dictate who plays and who doesnt. I like this approach, but they need more packages that feature MBIII in the first quarter of the game. lol

Bingo.

 

[Bleu Star]

I find it funny that there's actually someone thick ((see "Bone")) headed enough to actually say JuJo is a better RB then MB3.


By the way, after Madden said that about MB3's (right after) success rate on 3rd and short last season... he scored an 18 yard TD run on - you guessed it - 3rd and short.

Actually it was 4th & 1 but who's counting.


and I quote...

Dallas was down 6-3 and facing fourth-and-1 from the New York 18 when Phillips made his first big decision as coach of the Cowboys -- opting to go for a first down instead of a short, tying field goal.

The ball went to Barber and all he did was shake a defender at the line, bounce outside, shove away a second defender, then dive headfirst toward the end zone from around the 5. A third defender hit Barber, flipping him over the goal line for the go-ahead score.

Cameras caught Phillips' smiling widely and throwing a soft uppercut.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20070909_NYG@DAL

Wade loves Barber and this make me optimistic that my "whining" won't fall on deaf ears. :starspin

 

[Bleu Star]

Actually, on sunday night Julius got those carries.

And he promptly ran out of bounds.

Yep!!!

 

[BouncingCheese]

I don't think it a matter of JJ being a better back than Barber.

Think about it: it would be stupid to have JJ on the bench on first and second down since he is the home run threat. Since teams know that we probably will hand it to JJ because he CAN take it 40 yards, teams would be more inclined to put more players in the box. Which gives us an opportunity to play action pass it down their throats.

Barber is obviously the tougher, more talented player overall, but I understand the coaching staffs reasoning behind having JJ as the main setback.

I may not agree with it but what the hell are we going to do. If you don't like then make your own nfl team.