Let’s Talk Tony Pollard

[KJJ]

Right, right, and if Zeke goes 6 for 22 yards you’d be saying “vintage Zeke!!! Wearing down the defense!!”

I wouldn’t be saying that. The fan I responded to claimed Pollard was hitting big runs in that game. He had a grand total of 22 yards on 6 carries. Lol

 

[quickccc]

In my opinion, minus Dak and Parsons, he’s the most important cowboy for this upcoming season. I believe with my whole heart we would’ve beaten San Fran had pollard not gotten hurt. Couple of things:

1. Do you have confidence Pollard will be fine coming back from injury?

2. Do you believe he can carry the load as the RB1?

3. How do you expect McCarthy to manage the RB Carrie’s with the current roster?

4. Predict his stats for the upcoming season

- That injury is not of anymore concern, despite that will constantly insist on it

- Pollard should be an all purpose back -one that divides and contributes among " touches " between carries and catches .. not a workload pounding bell cow

- Expect the two RBs to get bulk of touches (Pollard1, Jones2) with a 3rd RB being a situational specialist in certain package (Deuce)
Much stronger emphasis on RBs screens, RBs in pass game to better help Dak in pass game underneath

- 1300+ rushing yards.. 11 rushing TDs. 4.7 avg ...48 catches, 7 TDS

 

[quickccc]

I would argue that Zeke didn’t do a good job to sustain his longevity in this league

I would argue that Zeke's coaches (ala Garrett) did not do a good job of trying to sustain his longevity in this league.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Those who want to see Pollard carry the load must have forgotten what happened with Troy Hambrick, Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Joseph Randle. All four of were terrific until they began carrying the load.

Pollard is better than all those guys. Pollard should get 225-250 carries a year and no more. Unless he proves he can handle them. Either way, I would use more backs. We need to save him for the playoffs.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He did wear down he said it himself. What do you not understand about that…oh, you don’t, you are proving your stalking posts by repeating your same crap.

How about answering the question? What proof do you have that Pollard wore down other than some off handed comment in one game after a 45 yard TD late in the game?

I mean, if you are so convinced? Surely its not this one comment right?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I would argue that Zeke's coaches (ala Garrett) did not do a good job of trying to sustain his longevity in this league.

Zeke pretty much refused to share carries especially early in Pollard tenure here. It really wasnt until the last year tha t Zeke became accepting of it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ah, yes, the “stalker” claim.

Whenever someone gets kicked around on the forum for their bad takes they can always fall back to the claim of being “stalked” in an effort to save face.

LOL..........Yep and Jazzy gets kicked around plenty!!

NO doubt he will soon be responding to your post telling you he didnt read the post he is responding to.

And let me guess............he also magically forgets all the dead wrong things he said about Zeke and Pollard?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Right, right, and if Zeke goes 6 for 22 yards you’d be saying “vintage Zeke!!! Wearing down the defense!!”

How many times he tell us that Pollard was only good because of Zeke?

Only to watch Pollard go for 143 yards and 3 TD's once Zeke was sat for injury.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ah, yes, the “stalker” claim.

Whenever someone gets kicked around on the forum for their bad takes they can always fall back to the claim of being “stalked” in an effort to save face.

OR just lie and pretend they never said it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did not read your long rant.

I didnt read you telling me you didnt read it.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I would argue that Zeke's coaches (ala Garrett) did not do a good job of trying to sustain his longevity in this league.

It's the coaches job to regulate in the best interests of the player, because that's in the best interests of the team

Blaming Zeke for it is just unadulterated hate.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I would argue that Zeke didn’t do a good job to sustain his longevity in this league

In what way?

I bet you are talking weed and Doritos, right?

Why would you just say something like this without any details.

It's the coaches job to regulate in the best interests of the player, because that's in the best interests of the team

Blaming Zeke for it is just unadulterated ...asinine....hate.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Actually your memory is terrible. I find you have dead wrong all the time. Has there been anyone that has been more wrong than you on the Zeke vs Pollard debate?

You arent even man enough to admit you said things. Denying it left and right. LOL

Heck, open up your history so that I can go back in time. Why is your history blocked? Gee I wonder?

You can sift through my history all you want.

I dont love Dak. I simply acknowledge what he is. A top 10 QB. Nothing more nothing less. There are 5 or 6 QB's I would rather have than Dak.

Im not going to cry that I dont have those other guys.

Here you go with denying things again. You bash Pollard every chance you get.

You have a lot of nerve lecturing people about hiding things.

You once said "Zeke is only rushing champion because number of carries".

I then showed you Emmitt's number of carries and you promptly put me on ignore.

(Yes..I know Im still on ignore. Also know jazzcat will brilliantly quote me and you ...should?.. see it.)

Your hatred of Zeke didn;t start on his decline...you hated him from the get go. As if you were a hurt bama fan.

While you defend Dak and make excuses for his failings.

You should never lecture anyone again about hiding things. Mkay big boy?

 

[jazzcat22]

How about answering the question? What proof do you have that Pollard wore down other than some off handed comment in one game after a 45 yard TD late in the game?

I mean, if you are so convinced? Surely its not this one comment right?

What part of …he said it himself … do you not understand?

 

[CowboyRoy]

What part of …he said it himself … do you not understand?

He said it when he was tired after a long run.

At the end of the game he just iced with his 3rd TD.

So you take this to mean he is out of shape every game? Its just you using one moment to paint a bad picture of the RB you hate.

Do you really think if the game was close or in question he wouldnt be able to play?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

What part of …he said it himself … do you not understand?

After he just ripped off a 54-yard run.

Funny how you leave out the context.

Meanwhile, Zeke was tapping his helmet to come off the field during warmups.

 

[quickccc]

Zeke pretty much refused to share carries especially early in Pollard tenure here. It really wasnt until the last year tha t Zeke became accepting of it.

All the more reasons that would suggest the coaches fail Zeke in allowing him to lead THEM... instead of the coaches being the lead of him.

That includes allowing him to tap out when we were in red zone situations,..

 

[CowboyRoy]

All the more reasons that would suggest the coaches fail Zeke in allowing him to lead THEM... instead of the coaches being the lead of him.

That includes allowing him to tap out when we were in red zone situations,..

The coaches or Jerry? Yah, that entire player was bumbled from draft day to cut day. If the coaches were in on featuring Zeke the last 3 years then shame on them.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

All the more reasons that would suggest the coaches fail Zeke in allowing him to lead THEM... instead of the coaches being the lead of him.

That includes allowing him to tap out when we were in red zone situations,..

Roy has me on ignore because he can't face true facts...but maybe you can....

What makes you think the team bowed to Zeke? Lead by Zeke? That doesn't make any sense.

Zeke had to tap out because the coaches wouldn't manage his playing time. They made zeke do it. Now you are ridiculing HIM for it?

Zeke didn't make "the team" do anything. Includes the contract, playing injured, excess blocking for an o-line they refused to address since fredbeard went out. Every inch of the way is the team coaches and executive management.

Like any business.

 

[quickccc]

Roy has me on ignore because he can't face true facts...but maybe you can....

What makes you think the team bowed to Zeke? Lead by Zeke? That doesn't make any sense.

Zeke had to tap out because the coaches wouldn't manage his playing time. They made zeke do it. Now you are ridiculing HIM for it?

Zeke didn't make "the team" do anything. Includes the contract, playing injured, excess blocking for an o-line they refused to address since fredbeard went out. Every inch of the way is the team coaches and executive management.

Like any business.

Usually when I see you appear in responding to my post I know it's usually Zeke-bias related but whether plus or minus i won't detour from what I think of Zeke.

The Red Zone is scoring plus territory, when we desperately need points,....points decides and wins games,.. you cannot have your star players tapping out if not injury related.
taping out in scoring position .. that's what does not make sense.

If you have to regulate Zeke's playing time and breaks of rest, then coaches need to do that pre-game and team meetings, place him more in a position where he
cannot tap out in red zone situations.

You think Zeke would be doing that if he was playing for Jimmie or Parcells ?