Let us just take a moment to mourn the 'Skins' season

[dallasdave]

Nope but the receiver of the message may be inclined to respond differently if they knew to whom they were speaking. Case in point: when NIBGoldenchild states "I personally don't know a single Skins fan who gives a flying **** whether we beat you with our third string QB again" or "Seriously, I can't believe so many of you actually think we care more about beating you guys than being a winning org"

--NIBGoldenchild is replying to someone he believes is a Cowboys fan. If @NIBGoldenchild thought that you were a Patriots fan, do you think his reply would have been the same? Of course not.
That depends. Are you an SOB?

 

[dallasdave]

Do i really have to? Can't it wait until after taco night when the local truck stops by?

 

[dallasdave]

Is this a reflection on Griffin or the Commanders?

Both, and after it flushes it goes to where the steelers are located !

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

That depends. Are you an SOB?

Why are you wanting to start a sideshow fight?

The things I said about the Dallas/Washington rivalry was decades before my comment concerning the alleged equipment violation. My rhetorical question about saying things in the heat of an argument - it's obvious we all say things we regret.

Back to the original topic

 

[DallasEast]

Why are you wanting to start a sideshow fight?

The things I said about the Dallas/Washington rivalry was decades before my comment concerning the alleged equipment violation. My rhetorical question about saying things in the heat of an argument - it's obvious we all say things we regret.

Back to the original topic

The better question is why do you care, Patriots fan?

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Unfortunately for you, Cousins will be just enough of an upgrade over RG3 to get two or three more wins...I can see them finishing with somewhere between five and seven wins. I say unfortunate for you because I think they'll do just well enough with Cousins and other offseason upgrades to miss out on the blue picks.

I don't think so to be honest.

The guy has the ability to be amazing (see Eagles game last year 4 TDs, 427 yards) or dreaful (4 INTs the next game) and went into a major funk.

Cousins is either going to be 11-5 or 2-14. Yet somehow one of those 2 would be against Dallas

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

The better question is why do you care, Patriots fan?

Don't be a troll.

You are completely off topic

 

[DallasEast]

Don't be a troll.

You are completely off topic

Kettle. Pot.

 

[LandryFan]

I don't think so to be honest.

The guy has the ability to be amazing (see Eagles game last year 4 TDs, 427 yards) or dreaful (4 INTs the next game) and went into a major funk.

Cousins is either going to be 11-5 or 2-14. Yet somehow one of those 2 would be against Dallas

My guess is that you know Cousins' abilities better than I do, but I'm guessing OL' Gruden will go overboard in trying to prove himself right in naming Cousins the starter. No matter what, though, I think Cousins will be an upgrade over what RG3 would have given them. From my uneducated vantage point, I think the skins win 5 to 7 (I'll roll with 6).

 

[big dog cowboy]

Cousins is either going to be 11-5 or 2-14.

11-5? I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Kettle. Pot.

You are sending a really bad message about the forum and yourself - and perversely proud of it.

Like other sports forums, you have lurkers of all persuasions, fans of other teams still interested in the Cowboys, potential Cowboys fans.

How do they feel when someone like you just harasses another member unprovoked?

Feel free to waste your time to continue to behave badly.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

11-5? I wouldn't hold your breath.

That is everything hits. Of course at this time last year nobody was picking Dallas to be 12-4.

I am more so convinced Cousins goes 2-14. I think he is so boom and bust

 

[BoysFan4ever]

The better question is why do you care, Patriots fan?

So funny. Yep he jumped on that bandwagon!

 

[DallasEast]

You are sending a really bad message about the forum and yourself - and perversely proud of it.

Like other sports forums, you have lurkers of all persuasions, fans of other teams still interested in the Cowboys, potential Cowboys fans.

How do they feel when someone like you just harasses another member unprovoked?

Feel free to waste your time to continue to behave badly.

Whatever, Tommy B.

It's ironic. Here are Washington fans defending their franchise in this thread--a franchise that I loathe above all others, mind you. Yet I find myself admiring their genuinely honest and devoted appreciation for their franchise. They're repping their franchise with pride. You could learn from them, that is when you're not misrepresenting yourself and your allegiances on this site... like right now...

 

[KB1122]

Here's the thing. People want to rip Dan Snyder. But look at it from his perspective. You've gone through a hundred quarterbacks. You invest a huge amount into Griffin. Now you have an unproven coach, on thin ice, who wants to cut or trade Griffin at age 25 and go with future journeyman Kirk Cousins. Welcome back to the quarterback carousel.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Well, its obviously hard to draft when your team is consistently throwing away draft picks...in a 3 year period, your GM/Owner traded away three 1st round, two 2nd round, two 3rd round, one 4th and 5th round picks. that's 9 potential young starters that were not drafted and has proved to be crippling to the quality of talent on the team while Shanahan was there.

You conveniently forget Shanahan was the GM. He approved of those trades, and was an integral part in offering the compensation they offered to get #2 overall pick. Trying to pretend he was just a coach, when he demanded full control of the organization in his contract, is silly.

Everybody know that Snyder wanted Griffin, he is the one who approved the trade, he is the person that is ultimately responsible for the worst draft pick and second worst trade in NFL history.

All Shanahan had to say was no if he didn't want Griffin, but he did. And in typical Shanahan fashion, he put tried to play revisionist with history after the fact and claim he wanted Tannehill more. When actually, at the time he was fine with settling for Tannehill or Wilson if Cleveland ended up with the pick and not the Commanders.

You can blame Shanny for whatever you want, but it's the owner who undercut him. and if you want to play the Shanny was responsible for the defense and bringing in Hasslet, then I guess I could use the Snyder brought in Shanny and thus is ultimately responsible .

I am not defending Snyder. He's an idiot, and I wish he never bought this franchise. But people like to convenitently throw every mistake at his feet because it's an easy, lazy way of understanding this team's dysfunction. The team dysfunction is Snyder's fault, he is 100% at fault for undermining his coach's authority with star players like Griffin. But that is where it ends. At any point where Snyder may have been telling Shanahan how to proceed with personnel moves, Shanahan could calmly pull out his contract and tell him to **** off. And if Snyder fired him over that, he'd be coaching a new team within months the way Marty was. Instead, he signed off on every decision because THEY WERE HIS DECISIONS. The only person who was against bringing in McNabb was Kyle, but the became Kyle and he once the whole McNabb deal blew up in their faces. Dude has changed his story on so many different occasions and on so many different mistakes even he can't keep it all together without contradicting himself.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Funny enough, I couldn't find one for the other 30 teams much less the rest of the NFCEast who are also rivals. It appears to me that ES IS thinking about the Cowboys....a lot!
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That one thread(which would never stay on the front page if it wasn't pinned) pales in comparison to the multitude of threads about the Commanders and Griffin in this forum. I admit I used a bit of hyberbole in my previous post, ES comments on your team occasionally, but just as much attention goes to Philly and more to Lucifier's Pubic Hair aka Giants Owner Mara. The Around the NFL forum is much like the NFL forum here, except not as many threads about the Cowboys as there is about the Commanders here.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Chill.

I'll concede there is not a lot to brag about this century about the Cowboys compared to 1966-1983 and Jimmy Johnson's ride. But historically, many of your fans have practically sold their soul to beat Dallas....George Allen would not address one of his players by his first name Dallas, then the week he plays us only addresses us as the "G***D*** Cowboys" - works up the Commanders like it was Cliff Harris that crashed the plane into the Pentagon. Speaking of CH, he said playing in DC was his favorite game, because the fans/players emotionally bet the farm. I know - George Allen has gone to the gridiron in the sky, but some of that mentality persists. Did not link this, but it should not be hard to find. And I like RGIII, but Shannahan playing him after he injured his knee the first time should have gotten him fired immediately, as it got reinjured.

I agree with alot of this, but those days are almost 40 years ago. Today, the rivalry doesn't have the passion it used to have and those goes for both fanbases. I'm sure we can both agree with that. I think the main reason is because neither team has been successful as they would like to be, and so it's hard to get up your rival when the wininig or losing often doesn't have any playoff implications. We knocked you guys out of the playoffs in 2012, that was the first time since I was kid I can recall this area really being excited to play the Cowboys.

I also agree about Shanahan. He messed that whole situation up, and made it worse by lying about it. He couldn't find enough people to throw under the bus for how that turned out, and his surrogate son Kirk Cousins was the one who really killed his fictional story by admitting to the media he overheard Griffin admit to Shanahan he was injured and Shanahan allowed him to go back out there and "finish the game." He's gutless.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

I don't think so to be honest.

The guy has the ability to be amazing (see Eagles game last year 4 TDs, 427 yards) or dreaful (4 INTs the next game) and went into a major funk.

Cousins is either going to be 11-5 or 2-14. Yet somehow one of those 2 would be against Dallas

I haven't changed from my 6-10 prediction, mostly because I have no idea how Kirk is going to do. If he hasn't toughened up since his last chance at being the starter, we'll be seeing Colt real soon. Even if he has, and he can keep the turnovers down. He's really just not that good of a player. He's an average QB, at best. And this team is currently not good enough to make up for his shortcomings. People think he did good against the Ravens, yet we were down 13-0 when they pulled their starters. Realistically, 11-5 is a pipedream with this HC, this OL, and this secondary.

6-10 shouldn't be enough to get us a top 5 pick in the draft, but I don't think any of the currently expected top college QBs are all that great to begin with. Our franchise really sucks at developing QBs. In fact, we've never actually done that in the history of the franchise. I think we have better chance of being successful by signing a free agent who may have washed out somewhere else, but just needs to have a few flaws in his game corrected to be a top flight player (i.e. Brees, Favre, and S.Young). It isn't likely, but it's more likely than our fanbase and local media being patient enough to allow a rookie QB to develop into an elite passer.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

You couldn't be more wrong. I live in the D.C area, and every single Deadskin fan I try to have an intelligent football conversation with, always ends it with "as long as we beat Dallas, that's all that matters." If this is your thinking, I applaud you. But the majority of your fans just want to beat Dallas.

He's as delusional as RG3. I lived in that God forsaken part of the country for 30 years and ALL of them are obsessed with the Dallas Cowboys. In football season, basketball season, hockey season, baseball season and no season, its a 24/7/365 obsession with ALL of them. He knows it just like you know it.