lets be real :)

GeauX;1219325 said:
My god you only beat the Colts, using the Giants as a measurement to how "good" you are holds no water. I mean with that same argument I could say we've beaten the Falcons twice and they have the EXACT SAME RECORD AS THE GIANTS!!! Then I could also say that we're better because we beat the Eagles whom you've already lost to.

This is why you play the games, I mean look at what happened between the Colts and Titans for Christ sake. These arguments stating who we've beaten and who you've beaten really are pointless.

Regardless it will be a good game, yes injuries suck but oh well. The good teams are those that can still win without key players. Which is why the Saints will dominate on Sunday night :D

Hope your right Geaux. I will have to stay up til 4 am to watch this game live all the way through so i hope im not staying awake till daylight just to go to bed in tears :) I think Bush will have to have a big game receiving for us to have a prayer tho
 
sjordan6;1219301 said:
Colston will not play and Horn is out as well. Hollis Thomas is out but Will Smith will play. I think Horn and colston is huge for the saints and will need them down the stretch if they want to make the playoffs. Remember they have a 2 game lead over the panther and falcons. And if they lose to the cowboys then that lead is down to one ( provide both team win against the giants and bucs) and the saints still have to play the panthers their last game. So this race is not over and the saints are not guaranteed anything. A lost shakes their season up!

Saturday morning paper out of New Orleans has WR Colston and DE Smith both as game day decisions. Horn looks like he's out but Henderson is an adaquate backup. He always seems to show up in big games and is considered a gamer.

Dallas should win this game based on having the better defense although the teams seem pretty evenly matched on offense. Being a Saints fan, I look for the refs to throw the big game to Dallas if it's close. Before you flame me for saying this, look at our sorry past. It includes hundreds of references of refs seeing magical things that only the see and Monday morning appologies from the league for wrong calls. Life sucks in a small market town. :mad:
 
SaintReginald;1219329 said:
Hope your right Geaux. I will have to stay up til 4 am to watch this game live all the way through so i hope im not staying awake till daylight just to go to bed in tears :) I think Bush will have to have a big game receiving for us to have a prayer tho

I am right Reginald :)
 
i have to agree its true,...they're banged up, we're at home, we're peaking, we're rolling, we decisively more talented.....
if we don't win, well we don't have any excuses.
 
It doent make a lick of difference as to who plays and who doesnt for either team.

In a couple weeks all that'll matter is who actually won... not how or why.

But if a person insists on suggesting theres more to it than winning and losing well then the ball is in the Saints court... to prove they're for real. We just had our game like that... and won.

If the Saints lose and the Saints fans wanna go.. Yeah but... thats up to them.
 
Why don't Saints fans get Avatars? Cowboy fans aren't treated that way on the Saints boards. What give? Conspirasy again? I think so. :confused:

I'm hungry for a Tuna Sandwich. :cool:
 
SaintReginald;1219270 said:
After reviewing the saints more or less final injury reports I have come to a conclusion I am not particularly happy with.

This game will be more a referendum on whether the cowboys are for real than the saints. If the saints lose away in dallas, missing their 2 best defensive players, and 2 best receivers I dont think it really has much bearing on how we will fare in the post-season (aside from the seeding.)
The cowboys on the otherhand...if they lose to the saints at home completely healthy with the saints so shorthanded on both sides of the ball wouldnt thay say something about how they might fare against other top teams in the playoffs?

This is not a troll post and ive posted the same thing in the saints forums (and was flamed there for not predicting a saints W)

Sounds like somebody is scared and already has excuses lined up. Hey injuries are part of the game, we lost our defensive captain and best presurre guy in Ellis, but you dont hear us complaining.:lmao2:
 
DipChit;1219342 said:
It doent make a lick of difference as to who plays and who doesnt for either team.

In a couple weeks all that'll matter is who actually won... not how or why.

But if a person insists on suggesting theres more to it than winning and losing well then the ball is in the Saints court... to prove they're for real. We just had our game like that... and won.

If the Saints lose and the Saints fans wanna go.. Yeah but... thats up to them.

with all do respect, beating the giants is no more proof of anything than us beating the falcons. The only reason i mention this is because there seems to be a double standard regarding our respective schedules. If our wins vs. 6-6 teams mean nothing (even if we had a part in creating their 6-6 record) then so does everyones.
 
GeauX;1219325 said:
My god you only beat the Colts, using the Giants as a measurement to how "good" you are holds no water. I mean with that same argument I could say we've beaten the Falcons twice and they have the EXACT SAME RECORD AS THE GIANTS!!! Then I could also say that we're better because we beat the Eagles whom you've already lost to.

This is why you play the games, I mean look at what happened between the Colts and Titans for Christ sake. These arguments stating who we've beaten and who you've beaten really are pointless.

Regardless it will be a good game, yes injuries suck but oh well. The good teams are those that can still win without key players. Which is why the Saints will dominate on Sunday night :D

We beat an undefeated team on a national stage. The Giants have been depleated by injuries and stuggling lately but look at the schedule they have played. We beat a Giants team that was only missing 1 player and we did it in NY. Giants beat the Falcons nuff said.

It is true we lost to the Eagles but there was a QB change. If it is pointless why did you bring it up?

We beat the Colts and destroyed the Titans.

Your coming into our house and if you win it will say a lot about your team. That was the gist of my post anyway and you took offense.
 
SaintReginald;1219359 said:
with all do respect, beating the giants is no more proof of anything than us beating the falcons. The only reason i mention this is because there seems to be a double standard regarding our respective schedules. If our wins vs. 6-6 teams mean nothing (even if we had a part in creating their 6-6 record) then so does everyones.

Giants beat the Falcons.
 
SaintsFanMan;1219331 said:
Saturday morning paper out of New Orleans has WR Colston and DE Smith both as game day decisions. Horn looks like he's out but Henderson is an adaquate backup. He always seems to show up in big games and is considered a gamer.

Dallas should win this game based on having the better defense although the teams seem pretty evenly matched on offense. Being a Saints fan, I look for the refs to throw the big game to Dallas if it's close. Before you flame me for saying this, look at our sorry past. It includes hundreds of references of refs seeing magical things that only the see and Monday morning appologies from the league for wrong calls. Life sucks in a small market town. :mad:

The refs are hardly in our pocket, we have been getting screwed over this year. I am talking about TDs getting called back, bogus PI calls, first downs called back. We have been one of the most penalized teams in the NFL this year.

I can already see the excuses coming.....injuries and refs.....how original:lmao:
 
DipChit;1219342 said:
It doent make a lick of difference as to who plays and who doesnt for either team.

In a couple weeks all that'll matter is who actually won... not how or why.

Exactly.

Thats why you don't see people defending the '00 and '01 Cowboys who led the league, and I believe set an NFL record one of those years, for most player-games lost to injury.
 
DBoys;1219364 said:
Giants beat the Falcons.
yea and the saints beat the eagles by that logic. does that mean the saints are a higher quality opponent than dallas on your standards?
 
SaintReginald;1219370 said:
yea and the saints beat the eagles by that logic. does that mean the saints are a higher quality opponent than dallas on your standards?

You lost to Carolina and we beat them bad.

Matter of fact the three good defenses you have played against you lost in Carolina, Baltimore, and Pittsburg.
 
SaintReginald;1219320 said:
horns injury isnt chronic, which is why he was still questionable for most of the week. thomas will be back for the playoffs, wed have to lose nearly every game to not make a wildcard spot.

Sorry bud, but that groin injury ain't going anywhere this year. Get used to having Horn "Questionable" or "Out" just like he has been for much of this year already.

I'm not wishing you bad luck or anything, I'd rather have the Saints in the playoffs than out, just saying that now is a really bad time to have key players suspended or injured... two losses and you're right back in the pack fighting for a spot(just like us) and none of your remaining games are gimmees:

Dec 10 @Dallas
Dec 17 Washington
Dec 24 @N.Y. Giants
Dec 31 Carolina
 
I agree that the Cowboys should win this game by a couple of scores...the Saints don't even belong on the same field as the Boys.

Losing to a depeleted team like the Saints, at home, would be like losing to the Texans.
 
DBoys;1219372 said:
You lost to Carolina and we beat them bad.

Matter of fact the two good defenses you have played against you lost in Carolina and Baltimore.

im not saying we should be favored to win this game or anything..but your logic is a little silly.

Team sports are about matchups. You beating indianapolis for instance is not a guarantee on beating every team the colts have beat this year.
You lost to the eagles, but that doesnt mean that every time thats beaten the eagles will destroy the cowboys. come on man. thats a simple sports reality right there..
 
you guys have a 8-4 record , barring any type of major disaster you guys should make the playoffs. quite crying..it reeks of desperation.
 
SaintReginald;1219376 said:
im not saying we should be favored to win this game or anything..but your logic is a little silly.

Team sports are about matchups. You beating indianapolis for instance is not a guarantee on beating every team the colts have beat this year.
You lost to the eagles, but that doesnt mean that every time thats beaten the eagles will destroy the cowboys. come on man. thats a simple sports reality right there..

i don't think he was saying that, he was just stating that whenever you guy face a formidable defense you lose.
 
SaintReginald;1219359 said:
with all do respect, beating the giants is no more proof of anything than us beating the falcons. The only reason i mention this is because there seems to be a double standard regarding our respective schedules. If our wins vs. 6-6 teams mean nothing (even if we had a part in creating their 6-6 record) then so does everyones.

Uh, yes it is considering the circumstances/timing of the particular game.

We win we take a 2 game lead in the division as opposed to being in 2nd place due to tiebreakers (having been swept by them if we lost) and then being jumbled in with all the other wild card wannabe's and having our confidence jacked up because we cant win a tough divisional game on the road in December. Against a talented team that had their backs against the wall. Winning the division at that point would've been decidedly uphill and not within our own control.

For me to worry about what THIS game says if we should lose means I should also worry about what it says if we lose any of the rest of the games this year. Not only the regular season ones against teams we'll be favored against in every case, but even Playoff games as of now since so many people think we're the "best" team in the NFC at the moment.

Well guess what, whether it's this particular game or a game down the road it wouldnt surprise me if we lost because I'm not really expecting to run the table in the first place.

So if you guys win.. good for you. But it wont sting me nearly as bad as had we dropped our game last week.
 

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