Lets play- Who am I?

[DipChit]

It is Belichick and no I wouldnt hire him unless you guaranteed me we'd have one the of the best clutch QB's of all time to go along with him.

And if you could guarantee me the latter actually arrives too then I likely wouldnt need BB in the first place.

 

[k19]

All the info's there to make his point especially considering the circumstances. See earlier post

Now as far as Norv goes he had 2 go rounds to try it and failed, although Aikman has gone on record saying theres more to his failures that no one knows about

 

[superpunk]

I see this thread as a set up for a

"Hah! you all would have passed on so and so as a coach"

Which is ridiculous, because it requires that all situations be exactly the same.

Also - it CAN'T be Norv OR Bellichick, since they've each had 2 head coaching gigs.

 

[dbair1967]

It is Belichick and no I wouldnt hire him unless you guaranteed me we'd have one the of the best clutch QB's of all time to go along with him.

And if you could guarantee me the latter actually arrives too then I likely wouldnt need BB in the first place.

think Romo might be that kind of guy? (bad hold excluded)

David

 

[k19]

I see this thread as a set up for a

"Hah! you all would have passed on so and so as a coach"

Which is ridiculous, because it requires that all situations be exactly the same.

Also - it CAN'T be Norv OR Bellichick, since they've each had 2 head coaching gigs.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas." And its BB, but we already knew that

 

[DipChit]

think Romo might be that kind of guy? (bad hold excluded)

David

Could be. If so, lets give Campo another whirl.

 

[Cochese]

e.

Also - it CAN'T be Norv OR Bellichick, since they've each had 2 head coaching gigs.

On the first page, he said it doesnt matter if the guy had another job or not.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

The reaction here would most definately be negative. Let me see, he would have 1 winning season out of 5 that is 20% and 2 seasons with 10 loses which is 40% so I have to assume that he had something like 8-8 the other 2 seasons.

That means that he must have a sub 8-8 average. Which is worse is Phillips.

Not that i believe that you can tell if someone is a good coach from the outside, I would say it doesn't sound like a sexy hire.

 

[peplaw06]

its enough comparitively for what we need to know...nobody on here knows or understands all the in depth stuff of hiring a coach...but everybody offers up an opinion based on past success or failure

just asking...would the guy in that descrption be perceived (by the fans) as a good move or a bad move? would people be lining up left and right to kill Jerry if he hired that kind of person?

David

It's not enough for me. And I will fight the urge to label a guy a good or bad hire based on the fan's perception, or his past success or failure.

For me, I may be uninspired by a candidate's past, but that's not enough for me to categorically label him a good or bad hire. In fact, it's all a crap shoot. A guy with a stellar past can be a bust, and a guy with zero past can be the best coach ever, and vice versa. I for one will give a guy a chance, because there's nothing I can do about it anyway.

 

[superpunk]

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas." And its BB, but we already knew that

well, if it's BB, the question was crap, and caused me to get all excited on my sleuthing "whodunit" mission. So now I'm ticked, because I realize it's just justification for Norval. Except that Norval isn't Bellichick, Gramatica isn't Vinatieri, and our offense isn't the problem that we need a HC to fix.

 

[bbgun]

well, if it's BB, the question was crap

Nah, it's not me.

 

[DipChit]

So now I'm ticked, because I realize it's just justification for Norval.

But at least it still excludes Wade because he had Elway for 2 years, still went .500 and couldnt win a playoff game.

 

[silverbear]

It's a "not enough information to answer this question."

There ya go... dbair makes it sound like he's given us all the info we need to make an informed decision, but of course he hasn't...

 

[dbair1967]

well, if it's BB, the question was crap, and caused me to get all excited on my sleuthing "whodunit" mission. So now I'm ticked, because I realize it's just justification for Norval. Except that Norval isn't Bellichick, Gramatica isn't Vinatieri, and our offense isn't the problem that we need a HC to fix.

it might be somebody totally made up...but if it is justification for somebody or maybe more than one person, most of the answers would be proving my point

David

 

[CoCo]

The most discouraging thing for me about this pending hire is that a number of people on this site will bash the hire no matter who it is or the process that's used to land him.

And then harp on it over, and over, and over.

There isn't a perceived home run hire out there this go round like there was when Parcells was hired. And its gonna bring out all the Jerry Jones hatred again.

 

[dbair1967]

There ya go... dbair makes it sound like he's given us all the info we need to make an informed decision, but of course he hasn't...

what other info do you need SB? what other info do WE as the public have as teams go through coaching searches that I didnt give you?

David

 

[Cochese]

Lets just drop the charade and get on with justifying Norv Turner as headcoach allready.

 

[dbair1967]

Lets just drop the charade and get on with justifying Norv Turner as headcoach allready.

and the thread might not be to justify any one particular person, but you must have missed that

David

 

[silverbear]

what other info do you need SB? what other info do WE as the public have as teams go through coaching searches that I didnt give you?

David

Well, I might like to know about his resume as an assistant and/or coordinator, and I'd surely want to know which team he coached, and the dynamics of that situation...

Example-- if the coach in question worked for the Faiders, you can't blame a lack of success on him and him alone... that whole organization is FUBAR'ed, but of course no assistant coach worth his salt is gonna pass on a chance to be a head coach, even if it involves going to a team that's known as a coach killer...

I'd also want to know if he took over a team entering cap h*ll, that would have some relevance to his bottom line...

Then I'd want to know what he could possibly offer the Cowboys, the positives he might bring to the table...

All of these things would need to be considered, not just Ws and Ls...

 

[silverbear]

it might be somebody totally made up...but if it is justification for somebody or maybe more than one person, most of the answers would be proving my point

David

Oh, you have a point??

Plan on getting around to it in our lifetimes, or are you having too much fun playing it "cute"??