Lets talk about Rush connecting with receivers

[basel90]

You do realize Eli Apple was in the Bengal secondary.......right?

not sure i follow . please explain

 

[starfan1]

not sure i follow . please explain

Means Eli apple sucks

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Its amazing they allowed Dak to play last year in the season Finale (So He could accumulate stats) with no regard to potential injury . . . but when it comes to playing in the preseason to shake off the dust . . . They sit him for precautionary reasons . . . Only to have Him injured within the 1st game of the season

Pretty Ironic . . . Meanwhile Cooper played a ton . . . Pretty Ironic. . . . Yes I really do think

That is ironic. If they were that worried about injury, Dak should have sat out the finale match.

 

[Wangchung83]

You new around here?

When Dak throws an Int or one is dropped or lands around 3 players, it is harped on for weeks around here.

That's because he does it every week...jk, kinda

 

[NotForLong]

Tampa was a one score game until late in the 3rd.

We could have and should have ran the ball.

That's great though, "Dak sucks, so we can't Do A lot of Things . . . ." Durrrr.

There fixed it for you. . . But you go ahead and micro focus on the Hill you wanna die on. . . . How do you know that Dak isnt changing the play at the line of scrimmage

And either way Who cares

Go ahead . . . Rant and Rave your argument all week

 

[kskboys]

The all important Eye Test proves this

Possibly.

The stats vs eye test combatants make for some of the most inane arguments on this board. Both are important, and that's blatantly obvious.

Mostly, people who claim one is important and the other isn't are quite simply prone to agenda driven drivel.

 

[NotForLong]

Yes the Enigma that is Dak has caused this argument to be a thing

Possibly.

The stats vs eye test combatants make for some of the most inane arguments on this board. Both are important, and that's blatantly obvious.

Mostly, people who claim one is important and the other isn't are quite simply prone to agenda driven drivel.

 

[Cmac]

not sure i follow . please explain

I saw a veteran CB (Eli Apple) get used & abused by Noah Brown. Not to take anything away from Noah Brown.....he had a great game. That's all. The question down the road and as film continues on Noah and the Cowboy offense/tendencies.....and a CB better than Eli Apple is on the other side......we shall see if it don't matter or it does matter when a formidable CB matches up. That's all. Eli Apple play has been maligned by many, mainly his NFL peers.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I believe Moore is plenty smart enough to have a game plan . . . He made Dak and He will succeed with Cooper

Cooper's strengths will be elevated with Game planning . . . which I believe contrary to popular belief. . . .Is a strength of Kellen's . . .

Granted Cooper is limited in His arm strength and talent at WR . . . which brings Lamb into play . . . If Lamb is who He some think He is. . . . Then He will need to step up and provide Cooper with a Saftey Valve . . . Proving He is indeed what many here claim He is not a True #1

Provided Cooper had no value to anyone else . . .just average . . . which is the reason for him starting the season on the PS. . . . But to Kellen there is no one else avaiable that knows the play book inside and out . . . Combined with the relationship Noah has developed with Him is a blessing . . . When Gallup comes back . . . It maybe all systems a go

Now Theres a chance of those young guns at TE getting a chance to showcase their youthful exuberance. . .

Its going to be exciting

Because after all . . .

THIS IS THE YEAR OF MICAH . . .

Many people keep saying this Noah Brown "connection with Cooper"....like it's some mystical presence.

No. We finally have Noah Brown consistently on the field....getting reps, contributing, and gaining confidence- as opposed to spot duty and no game flow.

And a QB that can get him the ball.

I do agree...there's some timing and trust things that have to happen. So it's been like what 4-5 years with Dak...and nothing clicked? This must be considered more of a Dak fault than Cooper asset.

 

[mardwin]

He's a good backup.

Same for our starter.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Overused made up term.
There is no stat on this either.

Well you are wrong then. The Cooper to Noah TD is EXACTLY throwing him open.

You lead the receiver away from contact or defenders, while still being "catchable". I first that that was a bad throw and Noah would miss it. Great throw...great anticipation of the open spot.

 

[mardwin]

It’s because he takes what the defense gives him he doesn’t force the offense like dak. Also the o line played great today

Dak doesn't forces anything because he can't read defenses. And the o-line played the same but the QB released the ball on time and didn't break out of the pocket.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Possibly.

The stats vs eye test combatants make for some of the most inane arguments on this board. Both are important, and that's blatantly obvious.

Mostly, people who claim one is important and the other isn't are quite simply prone to agenda driven drivel.

YES...both are important. The drivel is easy to spot...when they harp and harp and call people names for "not understanding stats".

I do...admittedly! fall more into the eye test....I follow and appreciate good statisticianship....but it can get kinda boring too.

 

[kskboys]

Many people keep saying this Noah Brown "connection with Cooper"....like it's some mystical presence.

No. We finally have Noah Brown consistently on the field....getting reps, contributing, and gaining confidence- as opposed to spot duty and no game flow.

And a QB that can get him the ball.

I do agree...there's some timing and trust things that have to happen. So it's been like what 4-5 years with Dak...and nothing clicked? This must be considered more of a Dak fault than Cooper asset.

Have to agree. I think getting the ball "on time" makes a monster of a difference. I thought yesterday was a great example of a QB "throwing receivers open". Which basically means the QB is throwing to where they will be.

When a receiver breaks open, he mostly only has a step or two to be open, until he either hits the next zone of the zone D or the ultra quick CB catches up. If a QB is waiting until the WR is open, then by the time the ball gets there the gap has closed.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak doesn't forces anything because he can't read defenses. And the o-line played the same but the QB released the ball on time and didn't break out of the pocket.

He also doesn't want to take the heat if it goes wrong. He'd rather be 3rd or 4th and long than risk a TO. Sometimes that's good, other times not good.

 

[5Stars]

Those are only counted when they have the microscope out with Dak.

Get with the program.

Oh...is someone feeling bad today? Just stare at your Dak poster for awhile, I'm sure you will feel much better.

 

[kskboys]

YES...both are important. The drivel is easy to spot...when they harp and harp and call people names for "not understanding stats".

I do...admittedly! fall more into the eye test....I follow and appreciate good statisticianship....but it can get kinda boring too.

A RB can average 3 YPC and have a good game. Doesn't look good on the stat sheet, but you have to examine just how effective those runs were. Case in point was Zeke yesterday, had a very nice game.

And conversely, a RB can have a very high YPC and not be all that effective.

Mostly, examining stats doesn't work unless you are looking at a larger sample. Using the stats to prove something in a 1-2 game sample generally makes the stat analysis less effective.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Have to agree. I think getting the ball "on time" makes a monster of a difference. I thought yesterday was a great example of a QB "throwing receivers open". Which basically means the QB is throwing to where they will be.

When a receiver breaks open, he mostly only has a step or two to be open, until he either hits the next zone of the zone D or the ultra quick CB catches up. If a QB is waiting until the WR is open, then by the time the ball gets there the gap has closed.

YEPPER! The receiver can see the trajectory and go to the spot. QB can see the field and defense and bring him "open" with good momentum.

Sometimes you can;t do that. Sometimes you have to throw into the crowd. But the more you do it the more yards you have and the safer the receiver is.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Oh...is someone feeling bad today? Just stare at your Dak poster for awhile, I'm sure you will feel much better.

Ken has been on a mission today that is for sure. I think he might be suffering from hurt feelings?

 

[5Stars]

You new around here?

When Dak throws an Int or one is dropped or lands around 3 players, it is harped on for weeks around here.

Man, you are hurting! Sorry that Rush won, maybe he will lose the next game so you can get back to your happy place.