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Don't get me wrong I know the kid is a rookie and switching from LT to RT but come on man, don't be whinning like that. Be a man. I am a huge Dallas fan and almost as big of a Pitt Panthers fan and as hard as it is for me to admit I'm almost ashamed to admit the latter after this sideline show from sunday night. I see Rob's dad posts here and I don't mean this to offend him, hell if Rob was my son I'd be proud as hell too. That being said, we definately need an upgrade at RT. Mr. P, get your kids head straight get his *** in the weight room this offseason andworking with the coaches. It'd be great to have a 6th rounder starting at RT, but only if he was worthy of wearing the "star" not if he's the only option. What's the deal with this clip from the game?
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against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.

first, i don't need to tell rob anything. he has given more of himself than i think he should. he has played injured this whole season without complaint. he had serious injuries in the detroit game and no substitute was sent in, not even for one play. he has practiced when he couldn't even walk because of a high ankle sprain, then played an entire game against denver and the rest of the season. ( see j. jones if you want to know about an high ankle sprain.)

as far as his conditioning, he works extremely hard at it. he knows what needs to be done and will be at it shortly. i believe he is the only rookie linemen to start every game and play every offensive play in season and most offensive plays preseason. that has taken a huge toll along with the various injuries.

as far as being worthy, he has earned that star on his helmet. he got no special treatment and asked for none. if he wasn't the best option at the time, he would have been out of the line up. i think there are many factors in running a successful offensive and to say one player could singularly be responsible for its success or failure is wrong.

as far as that clip goes, he was extremely frustrated by his play at that point. he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go. he lost his cool and allowed his frustration to show through. it has nothing to do with tucker.
 

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neosapien23 said:
Tucker played guard in college and was pretty good at it. Guard is much easier to play than tackle.

So good he wasn't drafted.

His value is that he is athletic enough to play tackle. Sure you can move him to guard, but at that point he is just a bottom of the roster guy waiting to get churned. Which he might be anyway.

Its easy to find mediocre guards. (insert Rivera joke here)
 

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pittdawg said:
against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.

first, i don't need to tell rob anything. he has given more of himself than i think he should. he has played injured this whole season without complaint. he had serious injuries in the detroit game and no substitute was sent in, not even for one play. he has practiced when he couldn't even walk because of a high ankle sprain, then played an entire game against denver and the rest of the season. ( see j. jones if you want to know about an high ankle sprain.)

as far as his conditioning, he works extremely hard at it. he knows what needs to be done and will be at it shortly. i believe he is the only rookie linemen to start every game and play every offensive play in season and most offensive plays preseason. that has taken a huge toll along with the various injuries.

as far as being worthy, he has earned that star on his helmet. he got no special treatment and asked for none. if he wasn't the best option at the time, he would have been out of the line up. i think there are many factors in running a successful offensive and to say one player could singularly be responsible for its success or failure is wrong.

as far as that clip goes, he was extremely frustrated by his play at that point. he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go. he lost his cool and allowed his frustration to show through. it has nothing to do with tucker.

Damn the refs aint call nothin. That was one of the worst reffed games all season!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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wileedog said:
Tucker is athletic enough to play Tackle.

Just not smart or consistent enough at times. Moving him to guard won't help.

Might be an option for Pettitti, but I'd like to see what he looks like next TC after a year in the conditioning program and working on his footwork before giving up completely at OT.


err I disagree with that, most of the time Tucker got beat was to his outside shoulder, he wasn't quick and strong enough to punch his guy off...if you are inside, that's not as much of a problem.
 

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pittdawg said:
against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.

first, i don't need to tell rob anything. he has given more of himself than i think he should. he has played injured this whole season without complaint. he had serious injuries in the detroit game and no substitute was sent in, not even for one play. he has practiced when he couldn't even walk because of a high ankle sprain, then played an entire game against denver and the rest of the season. ( see j. jones if you want to know about an high ankle sprain.)

as far as his conditioning, he works extremely hard at it. he knows what needs to be done and will be at it shortly. i believe he is the only rookie linemen to start every game and play every offensive play in season and most offensive plays preseason. that has taken a huge toll along with the various injuries.

as far as being worthy, he has earned that star on his helmet. he got no special treatment and asked for none. if he wasn't the best option at the time, he would have been out of the line up. i think there are many factors in running a successful offensive and to say one player could singularly be responsible for its success or failure is wrong.

as far as that clip goes, he was extremely frustrated by his play at that point. he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go. he lost his cool and allowed his frustration to show through. it has nothing to do with tucker.

That was the classiest post I have ever seen ......... You had to be angry by what was said, yet you didn't show anything or lash out. No wonder Rob is such a classy guy with you as a role model, I am sure he will have a long carreer as a Cowboy.
 

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pittdawg said:
against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.
Not going to quote the whole thing, but your post just really put it all in perspective. He gave it his all. That's about all you can ask for really. Just know that there are many folks out who do appreciate that about him.

Once he gets healed up he can then start working on building on this year of experience.
 

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pittdawg said:
against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.

first, i don't need to tell rob anything. he has given more of himself than i think he should. he has played injured this whole season without complaint. he had serious injuries in the detroit game and no substitute was sent in, not even for one play. he has practiced when he couldn't even walk because of a high ankle sprain, then played an entire game against denver and the rest of the season. ( see j. jones if you want to know about an high ankle sprain.)

as far as his conditioning, he works extremely hard at it. he knows what needs to be done and will be at it shortly. i believe he is the only rookie linemen to start every game and play every offensive play in season and most offensive plays preseason. that has taken a huge toll along with the various injuries.

as far as being worthy, he has earned that star on his helmet. he got no special treatment and asked for none. if he wasn't the best option at the time, he would have been out of the line up. i think there are many factors in running a successful offensive and to say one player could singularly be responsible for its success or failure is wrong.

as far as that clip goes, he was extremely frustrated by his play at that point. he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go. he lost his cool and allowed his frustration to show through. it has nothing to do with tucker.

You know, thats what I was thinking, why there was no news about his injury after he almost couldn't go for a game? Oh, forgot to add this, I can attest to the fact, about injuries in Detroit game. I saw Petiti visibly hobbling on sideline, since I was at that game and wondered something must be really wrong. I was surprised when he came back.

That explains more of his drop off in his play later part of the season. And then having to protect a QB, that needs lot of protection, doesn't help the matters either.

I still believe he will be a totally different type of Player next season than this season. I heard Marco Riviera on Radio recently saying so too. Co-Incidently, I believe Marco Riviera not playing to his standards is due to his Back Injury never healing. Should be interesting to see how both Riviera and Rob play next season. If they improve as I hope they will, the Right should not be weakness.
 

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wileedog said:
So good he wasn't drafted.

His value is that he is athletic enough to play tackle. Sure you can move him to guard, but at that point he is just a bottom of the roster guy waiting to get churned. Which he might be anyway.

Its easy to find mediocre guards. (insert Rivera joke here)

Undrafted free agents can still thrive. Look at Priest Holmes and Antonio Gates. Can't believe the pickup of Rivera. He pisses me off pretty badly. I'm more frustrated than a pervert trying to draw a ****** on an etcho-scetch.
 

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Tsk... Tsk.. and you are the Zone Chaplain? :D

It's kinda a inside joke... there is a vid clip on the internet from what I guess is Lord of the Rings where it looks like he is saying "Mo Naked Hoes"... obviously he wasn't and my point was that you really don't know what was actually said, and definitely don't know the context...

Being Chaplain around here is a hard job... I feel so dirty on a daily basis... :D
 

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zrinkill, that was the most kiss-*** post I've ever seen. thanks

pittdawg, are you going to lay Rob over your lap and spank him? j/k
 

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zrinkill, that was the most kiss-*** post I've ever seen. thanks

pittdawg, are you going to lay Rob over your lap and spank him? j/k

only if larry allen helps me.
 

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demdcowboys#1 said:
Damn the refs aint call nothin. That was one of the worst reffed games all season!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is it that Dallas officials don't make calls our way. Everyone else gets a few calls in their favor when playing at home. Look at the Tampa Bay game. Detroit's touchdwon was overruled despite not showing conclusive evidence other wise. The Steeler offensive linemen get away with a lot of tripping penalities when playing at home.
 

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pittdawg said:
against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.

first, i don't need to tell rob anything. he has given more of himself than i think he should. he has played injured this whole season without complaint. he had serious injuries in the detroit game and no substitute was sent in, not even for one play. he has practiced when he couldn't even walk because of a high ankle sprain, then played an entire game against denver and the rest of the season. ( see j. jones if you want to know about an high ankle sprain.)

as far as his conditioning, he works extremely hard at it. he knows what needs to be done and will be at it shortly. i believe he is the only rookie linemen to start every game and play every offensive play in season and most offensive plays preseason. that has taken a huge toll along with the various injuries.

as far as being worthy, he has earned that star on his helmet. he got no special treatment and asked for none. if he wasn't the best option at the time, he would have been out of the line up. i think there are many factors in running a successful offensive and to say one player could singularly be responsible for its success or failure is wrong.

as far as that clip goes, he was extremely frustrated by his play at that point. he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go. he lost his cool and allowed his frustration to show through. it has nothing to do with tucker.

Thanks for the posting that here. I think most of us here have no idea of the true realities of professional football.
 

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zrinkill said:
That was the classiest post I have ever seen ......... You had to be angry by what was said, yet you didn't show anything or lash out. No wonder Rob is such a classy guy with you as a role model, I am sure he will have a long carreer as a Cowboy.
Hey, I thought we were in your rear view mirror?

:wink2:
 

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As always, Pittdawg brings class, information, and a balanced analysis. A welcome respite from the know nothings increasingly ruining this board.
 

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You know, thats what I was thinking, why there was no news about his injury after he almost couldn't go for a game? Oh, forgot to add this, I can attest to the fact, about injuries in Detroit game. I saw Petiti visibly hobbling on sideline, since I was at that game and wondered something must be really wrong. I was surprised when he came back.

That explains more of his drop off in his play later part of the season. And then having to protect a QB, that needs lot of protection, doesn't help the matters either.

I still believe he will be a totally different type of Player next season than this season. I heard Marco Riviera on Radio recently saying so too. Co-Incidently, I believe Marco Riviera not playing to his standards is due to his Back Injury never healing. Should be interesting to see how both Riviera and Rob play next season. If they improve as I hope they will, the Right should not be weakness.
If you remember he also had a ref help him back to the huddle after getting his bell rung. I believe we learned later he had a concussion. Or am I remembering wrong?
 
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