Let's try this again a little more PC this time

[Hostile]

only if larry allen helps me.

You talking haircut or spanking now Dad?

Wasn't Flo in on that too?

 

[Alexander]

actually I don't think Pettitti was "attacking" Tucker...

How could he possibly attack Tucker? For what?

Looks to me like he was using Tucker as a sounding board for frustration more than anything else. Given the night he had, I am sure that isn't hard to understand.

 

[Alexander]

agenda

This is the most overused word on this entire board.

 

[jksmith269]

against my better judgement i'm going to address this post.

first, i don't need to tell rob anything. he has given more of himself than i think he should. he has played injured this whole season without complaint. he had serious injuries in the detroit game and no substitute was sent in, not even for one play. he has practiced when he couldn't even walk because of a high ankle sprain, then played an entire game against denver and the rest of the season. ( see j. jones if you want to know about an high ankle sprain.)

as far as his conditioning, he works extremely hard at it. he knows what needs to be done and will be at it shortly. i believe he is the only rookie linemen to start every game and play every offensive play in season and most offensive plays preseason. that has taken a huge toll along with the various injuries.

as far as being worthy, he has earned that star on his helmet. he got no special treatment and asked for none. if he wasn't the best option at the time, he would have been out of the line up. i think there are many factors in running a successful offensive and to say one player could singularly be responsible for its success or failure is wrong.

as far as that clip goes, he was extremely frustrated by his play at that point. he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go. he lost his cool and allowed his frustration to show through. it has nothing to do with tucker.

You are 100% correct what ROB went thru this year as a Rookie will make him a better person and player IMO. I'm very glad we drafted him and thought from day 1 he would be a good T.

To add to your point Rob also had to change from LT to RT a job many many Vets couldn't do and he did it with out much time and he did a good job. Now imagine how much better he will be next year. People are to quick to critize and not look at the whole picture.

 

[Alexander]

he told me that the rams were holding him and the refs let it go.

They did hold him.

 

[trickblue]

This is the most overused word on this entire board.

It is also the prevalent reason for many off-the-wall posts on this board...

 

[pittdawg]

You talking haircut or spanking now Dad?

Wasn't Flo in on that too?

i think they both were invovled. one gave him the mohawk, then the other shaved his eyebrows after rob told them he liked the haircut.

 

[AbeBeta]

How could he possibly attack Tucker? For what?

Looks to me like he was using Tucker as a sounding board for frustration more than anything else. Given the night he had, I am sure that isn't hard to understand.

Me, I'm more concerned about Tucker -- he's looking like he doesn't care and wants to go home. Rob is showing some fire with 11 freaking seconds left in a meaningless game.

 

[RCowboyFan]

If you remember he also had a ref help him back to the huddle after getting his bell rung. I believe we learned later he had a concussion. Or am I remembering wrong?

I don't remember if it was same game. But I do remember distinctly first seeing Petiti really strugling to even walk, when he was trying to walk on sideline. Then Canty also seemed hobbled in the same game if I remember.

I didn't know at that time what the injuries were, but found out later he has ankle sprain or some kind of injury, both Rob and Chris Canty that is. I think Even Julius might have been injured in that game. Seems like Detroit game had lot of injuries, if you remember, Henry got his groin tear re-aggravated.

 

[RCowboyFan]

i think they both were invovled. one gave him the mohawk, then the other shaved his eyebrows after rob told them he liked the haircut.

 

[jterrell]

I wonder if the original poster here is just trying to harass PittDawg into not posting here so that poster who has what 4 posts now, can mosey back over to his own board and giggle with his 3 or 4 buddies??

PD, we thank you, I thank you, for being a class act and putting up with the childish antics of a few who probably have ulterior motives. I think every one involved wished Rob played a bit better. They all probably wish Roy Williams woulda not allowed Santana Moss deep twice as well but I am pretty sure no one is posting insults to RW's family and friends.

 

[jterrell]

Eyebrows are overrated, lol.

Now if they woulda shaved his legs or something, yikes, lol.

 

[jksmith269]

One last thing on this subject

Not only did Rob learn a new position as I mentioned before his biggest knock in the draft guides last year was he had trouble playing hurt and his commentment to FB which made him seem soft. I think with what PittDawg has said along with what we already knew I think he has cast aside that tag as Soft. IMO

 

[lcharles]

Pittdawg, thanks for the post. Everybody should stop complaining. Rob gave effort and worked hard even in bad circumstances.

His passion at the end of a meaningless game speaks volumes. tell him to keep his head up, go back to work and make the critics eat their words.

 

[Alexander]

I don't remember if it was same game. But I do remember distinctly first seeing Petiti really strugling to even walk, when he was trying to walk on sideline. Then Canty also seemed hobbled in the same game if I remember.

I didn't know at that time what the injuries were, but found out later he has ankle sprain or some kind of injury, both Rob and Chris Canty that is. I think Even Julius might have been injured in that game. Seems like Detroit game had lot of injuries, if you remember, Henry got his groin tear re-aggravated.

You speak of injuries, including Petitti's and others.

That begs the question: were the likes of Columbo, Brooks and Price so very bad that we could not even afford to give him a breather here and there?

 

[RCowboyFan]

One last thing on this subject

Not only did Rob learn a new position as I mentioned before his biggest knock in the draft guides last year was he had trouble playing hurt and his commentment to FB which made him seem soft. I think with what PittDawg has said along with what we already knew I think he has cast aside that tag as Soft. IMO

I am guessing, maybe thats was one his motivation too. Besides, Rob seems to be ready to run through the wall if BP tells him to. I still remember chuckling to biggest kiss the coach's rear end answer, when he was asked who would he liked to be stranded on an Island alone. His answer was Bill Parcells :laugh1:

That just evoked too many nasty images to me

 

[RCowboyFan]

You speak of injuries, including Petitti's and others.

That begs the question: were the likes of Columbo, Brooks and Price so very bad that we could not even afford to give him a breather here and there?

I guess not too good or good as Petiti would be my answer. I have always believed, the OL although not good, were in undue pressure, due to the QB being what he is.

Which just made matters worse for OL, since they had to work on Pass Protection more than they would need to, if they had a QB, who would setup and get rid of the ball quickly. I remember, Aikman pointing out, that for a Mobile QB, McNabb was in the league leading category of getting sacked ( but this was about two years ago, not sure if he did the same thing in 2004 etc.). He noted that because McNabb held onto the ball too long in the pocket, when he didn't scramble. Bottom line, no matter if you are immobile like Bledsoe or Mobile like McNabb, if you don't make quick decisions and get rid of the ball quickly, you are bound to get sacked more. Heck, thats why the most Immobile QB I ever saw, Dan Marino, seldom got sacked.

Anyway, not to get into QB debate here, but entire OL, was under pressure to give real good pass protection, which in my opinion, only made matters worse for the young tackles, who are not that good to begin with, not this year anyway.

 

[jterrell]

You speak of injuries, including Petitti's and others.

That begs the question: were the likes of Columbo, Brooks and Price so very bad that we could not even afford to give him a breather here and there?

The answer apparantly is yes.
We can't judge that but we can judge that they were all on the street free agents and BP didn't decide to give them a snap.

 

[Alexander]

I guess not too good or good as Petiti would be my answer. I have always believed, the OL although not good, were in undue pressure, due to the QB being what he is.

So the answer is they were really really bad then.

I am sure there were plenty of sacks that were Bledsoe's fault. After all, that is what many (myself included) were very concerned about when he was signed. But there are also an equal number of sacks allowed by these two tackles that nobody save Donovan McNabb could have made a play out of.

Which just made matters worse for OL, since they had to work on Pass Protection more than they would need to, if they had a QB, who would setup and get rid of the ball quickly. I remember, Aikman pointing out, that for a Mobile QB, McNabb was in the league leading category of getting sacked ( but this was about two years ago, not sure if he did the same thing in 2004 etc.). He noted that because McNabb held onto the ball too long in the pocket, when he didn't scramble. Bottom line, no matter if you are immobile like Bledsoe or Mobile like McNabb, if you don't make quick decisions and get rid of the ball quickly, you are bound to get sacked more. Heck, thats why the most Immobile QB I ever saw, Dan Marino, seldom got sacked.

We had the double whammy. We saved people for protection. Unless they execute, we wasted a body that could have been devoted as a safety valve. We wasted too many opportunities. Yet we continued to go max protection.

 

[RCowboyFan]

We had the double whammy. We saved people for protection. Unless they execute, we wasted a body that could have been devoted as a safety valve. We wasted too many opportunities. Yet we continued to go max protection.

Yep, completely agree there.