Limit for Da ron Payne?

[raven55]

it's terrible when you over pay a qb and a running back isn't it

 

[Flamma]

How much would you pay him? He’d make our defense the best in the league. I wouldn’t over pay though, we still need to resign parsons. He’s thst good that I’d sign him even if it meant losing Diggs.

His market value is 20M. That's about 18.5 million more than what we normally spend on free agents.

 

[big dog cowboy]

How much would you pay him? He’d make our defense the best in the league. I wouldn’t over pay though, we still need to resign parsons. He’s thst good that I’d sign him even if it meant losing Diggs.

Doesn't matter. He isn't leaving NY.

 

[exciter]

They tried to sign Von Miller.

Uh yeah, that’s when they thought like most reasonable people that his entire contract would be 55m and heavily backloaded. Then Buffalo came in and gave him that in just the guaranteed!

 

[rambo2]

Uh yeah, that’s when they thought like most reasonable people that his entire contract would be 55m and heavily backloaded. Then Buffalo came in and gave him that in just the guaranteed!

Buffalo screwed up bigtime.

 

[rambo2]

it's terrible when you over pay a qb and a running back isn't it

Or a free agent like Von Miller.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The 2nd tier options of Dalvin Tomlin and Javon Hargrave are great “fall back” options. Even the 3rd tier options of A’Shon Robinson and Andrew Billings would represent significant upgrades to our 1 tech situation.

The "nice" thing about the situation is that given how bad we are at DT, anyone with significant rotation on another team is likely to be an upgrade.
DT has been the low hanging fruit for improving the team for a while, and probably even moreso this year. Last year there was at least some reason to believe that Gallimore, and maybe even Hill, might give us something. That's over now.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I came to bring the pain
Hardcore in the brain
But with Cap boy's purse
We aint getting D Payne

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

Payne would put an end to hurts running on us. Micah would end up with 20 sacks. Teams won’t run as well which would give us more pass rushing downs.

 

[ghst187]

Will take two firsts and 25m per year since Wash will franchise

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They tried to sign Von Miller.

They say that….but I feel if they truly tried he’d be a Cowboy.

But I’m also thankful they didn’t sign him. That’s one thing I’ll stand by. I would stay away paying 33 year olds big money. Daron Payne is young so he’s a different case.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Washington isn't letting him get away.

Mostly like not, but they did draft Mathis in the top 50. Something to keep in mind

 

[Carson]

I’m not paying Diggs 22 million/y
Trade Diggs and sign Payne at 20 million

Problem is Bears, have about 100+ million in cap. They can offer him a blank check

 

[CowboyoWales]

They won't but how much money do you invest in DT? That franchise tag is going to be a grip and they are already paying Allen a lot.

So here we come to the CAP HELL argument and those fans who blindly say....the CAP money's gone up. Well indeed it has, but all that means is that EVERY team has more money, it's not so much how much money we've got, it's how much we have in comparison to others.
We arent in the top end FA market.

 

[gtb1943]

They say that….but I feel if they truly tried he’d be a Cowboy.

But I’m also thankful they didn’t sign him. That’s one thing I’ll stand by. I would stay away paying 33 year olds big money. Daron Payne is young so he’s a different case.

EXACTLY. IT was all a PR scam. Buffalo was KNOWN to be making Von Miller the priority; no one else was going to get him. The Clown show played everyone - making people believe they were really going to do something big in FA. Never was going to happen.

 

[Carson]

So here we come to the CAP HELL argument and those fans who blindly say....the CAP money's gone up. Well indeed it has, but all that means is that EVERY team has more money, it's not so much how much money we've got, it's how much we have in comparison to others.
We arent in the top end FA market.

It won’t be cheap for sure

Extending Payne at an expected $20 million per year, with DT Jonathan Allen set to count $21 million against the cap, would have Washington at over $40 million for its two starting tackles if they re-sign Payne. Franchising Payne would cost the Commanders $18 million.

 

[doomsday9084]

Don't mean to be a debbie downer but any amount of capspace the Cowboys can free up will be used to retain some of their free agents. Even then, you can expect to lose several guys.

Just as a reminder, Dallas is already at the cap and has these free agents: Wilson, LVE, Pollard, Steele, McGovern, Rush, Watkins and Schultz. That's not even getting into the recent pick ups like Hilton, Hankins, Peters, etc. or the lesser guys like Goodwin, Brown, etc.

I realize that teams can move money around but that ability isn't infinite. Dallas has a lot of big contracts and guaranteed money on the books that they just can't ignore.

I just hope they address DT in the draft. Its a GLARING issue.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Anyone see Cowboys spending 100 million on defensive tackle? Because I don't. And is that his price? I'd be for it if it especially if we think we are a defensive tackle away.....

Id be all for it. He would be the anchor that our defence needs. With the players we have on defence, he'd make us the best defence in the league. Parsons would have a field day with him on the team. With him on the team, Parsons would return to being a QB's worst nightmare.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Payne would put an end to hurts running on us. Micah would end up with 20 sacks. Teams won’t run as well which would give us more pass rushing downs.

Exactly, and, when we know teams are passing, our defence this season was almost impossible to move the ball against. If it got to 3rd and 10+, teams were usually better off punting on 3rd down.

 

[CowboyoWales]

It won’t be cheap for sure

Extending Payne at an expected $20 million per year, with DT Jonathan Allen set to count $21 million against the cap, would have Washington at over $40 million for its two starting tackles if they re-sign Payne. Franchising Payne would cost the Commanders $18 million.

Yep and if he hit FA, there are at least 10 teams that could out bid him for his services. Some of these threads dont take into account the near future and how much Dak's, Micah's and CeeDee's extensions are going to cost with the massively inflated CAP Space ALL teams will receive over the next two years.