Listening to Talking Cowboys and Micky and Broaddus Calling Out Garrett

[BoysFan4ever]

Jerry's orders to Mickey this morning: Get the heat off me!

I've noticed after a bad loss Jerry does a lot more talking. They need to do this. We need this to happen.

Jerry wants to coach so badly.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

2 words..........David Shaw.

Probably going to the Texans I've heard.

 

[visionary]

Fellas...lets not act like Jason has ANYTHING to do with Kiffin being here. Jerry brought Kiffin here...so I don't think we should lay this defense at the feet of Garrett. And Garrett did not give Carr 50m. Garrett did not trade a #2 and use the #6 pick on Claiborne. I am not the biggest Garrett fan. But Jerry has his hands all over this defense...and he should not get a free pass.

wait, i thought that garrett is now involved in the 'decision making' and that is why 'our recent drafts have been better'

say it aint so

 

[StarWiz2]

Ok, I'm done with JG. I gave it all I had for him, but the love affair is over. I keep waiting for the light to go on with JG, but after the Chicago game, I finally realized what the problem was. He's missing a lightbulb! Upon further review, and this right after listening to JJ today, I concluded JJ is in permanent blackout mode along with his son. As for Romo, he at least plays with a lightbulb. Unfortunately, it goes off and on a lot. I guess it could be worse. Kiffin doesn't even have a receptacle for one.

Well, what does this mean down the road? Well, I'm no swami, but I heard it takes at least 4 to screw in a lightbulb. My candidates to do that are, Marinelli, Bailey, Murray, and . . . and . . . and . . . I give up. We're doomed.

Yes, I know we're 7-6, and still in the playoff hunt, so why am I throwing in the towel. Those 7 gaudy, impressive wins were against the Rams, Commanders, Giants(2), Vikings(last second win), Eagles, and Raiders. The six losses were to a majority of winning teams, like Denver, Kansas City, New Orleans, Chicago(qb'd by Joe Montana Jr), San Diego, and who could forget the mighty Lions of Detroit.

Therefore, I'm inspired to say, and with greater confidence I might add, that the Dallas Cowboys are coached by a circus of clowns. I really thought JG would learn from his mistakes. My bad. And as down on Romo as I've been, even I know he's being led to the slaughter by incompetency left, right, front and center. Guess who's leading the charge? Right. General George Custer, aka, General Jerry Jones . . . annnd Son.

This tent needs to fold now. We haven't won against a winning team, and since the playoffs generally include teams that are winning, and with highly paid players who actually get out on the field and play no matter what, imho it would be better to have lost, than not to have lost at all.

 

[TwoDeep3]

There is an old poker expression. You cannot play with scared money.

Garrett has not shown in seven years that he has the gonads to bet the house on a team. That translates into two distinct messages.

1. He is scared.

2. The team never sees him by his actions suggest he thinks they can accomplish it.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yeah I was not pleased in the least that they punted there. There was no reason at all to not go for it. Garrett seems to still be lost when it comes to situational football. I know some people love him and I'm one of those people who doesn't like him but he just doesn't seem to be doing any better and this team doesn't appear to be any better overall to me.

They improved in some areas but stayed the same, or got worse, in to many other areas.

 

[visionary]

There is an old poker expression. You cannot play with scared money.

Garrett has not shown in seven years that he has the gonads to bet the house on a team. That translates into two distinct messages.

1. He is scared.

2. The team never sees him by his actions suggest he thinks they can accomplish it.

you gain confidence by knowing you are great at what you do and actually succeeding

show me one place garrett has succeeded in his career

he is not confident and scared becasue he knows this

real tangible results should trump this blind worship of garrett

unfortunately, romo is the loser because of this

 

[Alexander]

Seriously. Mickey is the head cheerleader for the status quo in Dallas. You know things are bad if he's calling out the coach.

He will stop short of calling out the man who really matters, the "man in the mirror".

 

[Alexander]

Guys...serious question. After Jerry came out and said Garrett will be head coach next year...How do you think he will spin it if he actually does fire Garrett?

Do you think it really matters? The man is a habitual liar and a fool to boot. In fact, he even is a great liar to himself, which is about the worst anyone can be.

 

[TwoDeep3]

you gain confidence by knowing you are great at what you do and actually succeeding

show me one place garrett has succeeded in his career

he is not confident and scared becasue he knows this

real tangible results should trump this blind worship of garrett

unfortunately, romo is the loser because of this

What really surprises me, visionary, is that he has the stamp of approval from Jerry-atric. He can do what he likes and be as bold as a stick-up man with a Satruday night special.

Yet he plays scared.

Think back to the 49ers NFC Championship game in 92. Dallas had just given up a TD to Rice and the game was now within 3. Norv called down to Jimmy before the kick-off and asked him what he wanted to do. Pass or run.

Jimmy said pass.

No hesitation, no regrets.

Harper runs 70 yards and the game and momentum changes. It would never have happened if Johnson didn't sack up.

Garrett was on the sidelines that game. He saw what a coach would do at the riskiest time of his pro career, with all the chips in the center of the table.

They say when you pass three things can happen and two of them are bad. However, the third is kicking the shate out of the 49ers.

It can't get any worse.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Actually Garrett didn't get to the team until 1993... But playing for Jimmy 100 years wouldn't mean he absorbed any of Jimmy's personality or talent.

 

[Stash]

I'm not a fan of Garrett, I never quite had the feeling that he was the right guy for the job -- as much as I wanted to have that feeling. That being said, more than anything, I kinda feel sorry for him. It's one thing to fail in your first shot at a head job -- it's another entirely to fail while also being seen as a guy with no authority or vision, as someone who was willing to go along with the firing of a Defensive Coordinator for whom he'd very recently voiced support. Who allows himself to be put in the position of acting like he went to camp with the Bucs in 2005 so he could study Kiffin, so that the guy's hiring can be seen as something he wanted all along. I was rooting for him to just quit during the offseason -- he'd have gained far more respect from people around the league, and the media, and the fans, if he'd done that. (And yes, I completely admit that's pure speculation -- for all I know, folks around the league think the world of him. But I'd be surprised if that were the case, after the last few years.) It's sad, because you have to wonder if his career ever really rebounds from what right now appears to be an impending dismissal. The only kind of coach that can possibly have any success with Jerry around is someone like Parcells, someone who has enough stature to negotiate a certain level of control and who will be seen by everyone as THE guy.

I'm ashamed to admit that lately I sometimes find myself thinking that the only real hope for this franchise's future is for us to lose as many games as possible this year, by as wide a margin as possible, so that Jones is forced (if such a thing is possible) to bring in someone whose profile eclipses his own...a la Parcells. Who knows if anyone like that is even available. Who knows if Jones would hire that person for any reason whatsoever. But simply firing Kiffin, or firing Garrett and bringing in a lower profile coach will accomplish nothing. There needs to be someone who will galvanize the organization and imprint his philosophy upon it.

I live in NY. I went to every Giants-Cowboys game at the Meadowlands between 1978 and 2003 (plus intermittently after that); I used to travel to Dallas once a year for a game; I was lucky enough to go to Super Bowl XXX. I've probably spent the equivalent of several years worth of salary following the team, but I can't bring myself to do it anymore. Not until I feel like I can feel like I'm doing my own tiny little part to contribute towards success, instead of rewarding ineptitude.

Sorry to ramble.

Well said, great post.

You should post more often.

And for the record, I'm right there with you. This team needs fundamental change in the way they do business, and I fear only big losses will be enough to inspire that change.

I'm also on the financial boycott bandwagon as I refuse to buy junk.

 

[Stash]

Jerry has Mickeys ear so you know something may be brewing with the RHG because mickeys lips have been firmly attached to Garret....so this is telling in how Mickey is talking.

It really is.

He's a nice guy, but he's the biggest shill for the team that there is.

You know it's bad if he's not pumping sunshine.

Welcome aboard Mick, we've got jackets!

 

[khiladi]

I don't feel sorry for Garrett at all, considering the Wade era. Plus, Garrett never takes any blame. Plus, Garrett has never been hamstrung. Jerry gave him whatever he needed to work with. It's only because of JGs incompetence that this team had to go out and get 'experienced' HCs and consultants. Jason Garrett's brother as brought it as TE coach and he mosed up to PASSING GAME COORDINATOR. If anybody thinks Jason Garrett was hamstrung, he's fooling himself.

I feel sorry for Wade.

 

[khiladi]

Actually Garrett didn't get to the team until 1993... But playing for Jimmy 100 years wouldn't mean he absorbed any of Jimmy's personality or talent.

Exactly.. And he also had one year under Norv Turner riding the pine as the 3rd string QB, just brought over from the arean league. I guess he's a 'disciple'.

 

[dstovall5]

Mickey just said it was the first game in the history of the Bears franchise that they did not punt or have a turnover...........................he said this defense belongs in the Arena league.

How dare he insult Arena Football like that, even those guys can play better D then allas. Our defense would probably even have trouble stopping 5-A Texas football teams, they're a complete joke.

 

[Alexander]

The fourth down statistic is an interesting one to note. At times it can show the players that you have faith in what you are doing and above all, they themselves.

Here is Garrett's percentages over the years:

2007 - 10/14; 71.4% conversion rate; 4th in efficiency; 21st in overall attempts
2008 - 7/12; 58.3% conversion rate; 9th in efficiency; 23rd in overall attempts
2009 - 4/11; 36.4% conversion rate; 28th in efficiency; 29th in overall attempts
2010 - 13/22; 59.1% conversion rate; 9th in efficiency; 5th in overall attempts
2011 - 5/10; 50.0% conversion rate; 11th in efficiency; 26th in overall attempts
2012 - 8/11; 72.7% conversion rate; 2nd in efficiency; 8th in overall attempts
2013 - 1/2; 50% conversion rate; 14th in efficiency; 32nd in overall attempts

It is interesting to see the only spike in overall attempts was in 2010, where he was coincidentally coaching for the chance to be the head coach.

The rest has been extremely conservative for the most part, a far cry from coaches like Belichick and Payton, who are historically right at the top in attempts each season.

 

[Stash]

Mickey still managed to piss me off by trying to defend the team for depending on Ware, Hatcher, Ratliff, and Spencer.

Sorry, but the team deserves all the criticism they get for that.

 

[Teague31]

Agreed. In the game thread I was calling for an onside kick. Who cares about field position when your defense is putrid?

 

[Beast_from_East]

The fourth down statistic is an interesting one to note. At times it can show the players that you have faith in what you are doing and above all, they themselves.

Here is Garrett's percentages over the years:

2007 - 10/14; 71.4% conversion rate; 4th in efficiency; 21st in overall attempts
2008 - 7/12; 58.3% conversion rate; 9th in efficiency; 23rd in overall attempts
2009 - 4/11; 36.4% conversion rate; 28th in efficiency; 29th in overall attempts
2010 - 13/22; 59.1% conversion rate; 9th in efficiency; 5th in overall attempts
2011 - 5/10; 50.0% conversion rate; 11th in efficiency; 26th in overall attempts
2012 - 8/11; 72.7% conversion rate; 2nd in efficiency; 8th in overall attempts
2013 - 1/2; 50% conversion rate; 14th in efficiency; 32nd in overall attempts

It is interesting to see the only spike in overall attempts was in 2010, where he was coincidentally coaching for the chance to be the head coach.

The rest has been extremely conservative for the most part, a far cry from coaches like Belichick and Payton, who are historically right at the top in attempts each season.

Shouldnt this be reversed?

I mean, if you have the worst defense in the history of the NFL............why are you not going for it on virtually every 4th down?

To have the worst defense in the league and be dead last in 4th down attempts makes no freaking sense at all.

I am right about this?