Live Well and Prosper Michael Vick

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YoMick;3584377 said:
He is a hybrid. Reid should be gone too. Years ago as a matter of fact.

I just happen to agree with you there ...probably for different reasons though.
 

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PT, Haven't seen you in forever. Fear of being in the basement, I suppose. Now with a little glimmer of hope you are back to champion your support for Vick? The rest of the team is still not very good though. Good Luck.

On a side note, sometimes your threads remind me of good ol' Pittman4Two.
 

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SkinsandTerps;3584380 said:
PT, Haven't seen you in forever. Fear of being in the basement, I suppose. Now with a little glimmer of hope you are back to champion your support for Vick? The rest of the team is still not very good though. Good Luck.

On a side note, sometimes your threads remind me of good ol' Pittman4Two.

Hahaha! You are really in a position to talk with Hayesworth (while you may have forgotten, Cowboy fans haven't forgotten that video clip captured Haynesworth stomping the face of that Cowboys playing who was just doing his job).

Putting all that aside, I'd still like the chances your team has with Mcnabb. I just hope your OL can protect McNabb, because he is known to get injured.

I wish you the same type luck.

Sidebar: You'll have to explain the "good ol' Pittman4Two."
 

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Wrangler87;3584378 said:
I'm not happy he is back. The guy makes me sick and in a fair life, he would never be able to prosper again.

But, life is never fair.


Too gifted not to prosper...
 

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Phoenix-Talon;3584379 said:
I just happen to agree with you there ...probably for different reasons though.

Hey Phoenix. Haven't seen you in a long time. I may have missed it, but did you ever make an appearance here after the Dallas/Philly playoff game last year? Just curious because I know you were around pretty frequently prior to that ending for Philly. Wondering if we ever got a congrats from you or whatever.

Vick will keep Philly in games because of his mobility, but I think that team has too many holes along the OL and defense to do much this year. Just an honest assessment, not trash-talking.

As for Dallas, they can beat anybody but, unfortunately, that includes themselves (as we've seen). Coaching is a problem along with some stupid players. Dallas will probably get 9 or 10 wins and tease the fans enough to think they might pull it off in the end, but will do something stupid to piss it all away.
 

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I'm a dog trainer.

It would please me greatly to see Vick carted off the field, immobilized... and for one moment, I'd be just like an Eagle's fan taking a page out of their book and cheering like when Michael Irvin went down in Philadelphia.
 

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BIGDen;3584384 said:
Hey Phoenix. Haven't seen you in a long time. I may have missed it, but did you ever make an appearance here after the Dallas/Philly playoff game last year? Just curious because I know you were around pretty frequently prior to that ending for Philly. Wondering if we ever got a congrats from you or whatever.

Vick will keep Philly in games because of his mobility, but I think that team has too many holes along the OL and defense to do much this year. Just an honest assessment, not trash-talking.

As for Dallas, they can beat anybody but, unfortunately, that includes themselves (as we've seen). Coaching is a problem along with some stupid players. Dallas will probably get 9 or 10 wins and tease the fans enough to think they might pull it off in the end, but will do something stupid to piss it all away.

Hahaha ...it's always good to get a blast of hot air from the past. but this time I must confess, yes I was here and yes I ate big crow in congratulating your teams control over mine last year. While it was a very bitter pill to swollow, I meant every congratulatory word I said.

I wish your team well ...I'm not trying to raise any unnecessary temperatures, so I'll leave the Cowboys chances to Cowboy fans. That fair enough?
 

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Phoenix-Talon;3584389 said:
Hahaha ...it's always good to get a blast of hot air from the past. but this time I must confess, yes I was here and yes I ate big crow in congratulating your teams control over mine last year. While it was a very bitter pill to swollow, I meant every congratulatory word I said.

I wish your team well ...I'm not trying to raise any unnecessary temperatures, so I'll leave the Cowboys chances to Cowboy fans. That fair enough?

That's cool. I honestly wasn't sure if you came back after that game. I respect the fact that you did. You definitely didn't raise any temperature here.
 

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Juke99;3584386 said:
I'm a dog trainer.

It would please me greatly to see Vick carted off the field, immobilized... and for one moment, I'd be just like an Eagle's fan taking a page out of their book and cheering like when Michael Irvin went down in Philadelphia.
I'm a human trainer and I find this comment appalling!

In all seriousness though, what he did was terrible but wishing injury on another person isn't much better. Aren't we above that?
 

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tupperware;3584393 said:
I'm a human trainer and I find this comment appalling!

In all seriousness though, what he did was terrible but wishing injury on another person isn't much better. Aren't we above that?


OK....this is a guy who took small dogs, strays, and tossed them into small cages with fight trained pits in order to allow the pits to rip the smaller dogs apart, building a blood lust in them.

Then, when those very same pits were no longer of use to him, he personally drowned them...by hand. Just imagine the thrashing about a dog would be doing, especially one as strong as a pit, as it was being drowned.

Nah, sorry. I'm not all that interested in whether or not I'm better than him. It's one thing when someone makes a mistake in life. This is an example of human depravity that is beyond what we can comprehend.

And mark my words, a sociopath like this will one day, again make headlines...and not for his work on a football field.

Other than that, I think he's a swell guy.
 

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Phoenix-Talon;3584381 said:
Hahaha! You are really in a position to talk with Hayesworth (while you may have forgotten, Cowboy fans haven't forgotten that video clip captured Haynesworth stomping the face of that Cowboys playing who was just doing his job).

Putting all that aside, I'd still like the chances your team has with Mcnabb. I just hope your OL can protect McNabb, because he is known to get injured.

I wish you the same type luck.

Sidebar: You'll have to explain the "good ol' Pittman4Two."

Trust me I know they hate Haynesworth and I remember that stomp on Gurode too. I thought the same thing then as I do know about him. The guy is a beast, but an idiot.

The Commanders OL is not in as bad a shape as others seem to think. They will do a solid job. Not great mind you, but solid. Grossman is servicable, but clearly not on the level of McNabb. I hope McNabb stays healthy but I won't make excuses if he does go down, it's part of the game unfortunately.

Check out some of Pittman4Two's threads. They are classic.
http://new.cowboyszone.com/forums/search.php?searchid=759122

And these are just the ones on CZ. He starts them on lots of team boards.

This is one of my favorites. http://new.cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156746
 

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Juke99;3584399 said:
OK....this is a guy who took small dogs, strays, and tossed them into small cages with fight trained pits in order to allow the pits to rip the smaller dogs apart, building a blood lust in them.

Then, when those very same pits were no longer of use to him, he personally drowned them...by hand. Just imagine the thrashing about a dog would be doing, especially one as strong as a pit, as it was being drowned.

Nah, sorry. I'm not all that interested in whether or not I'm better than him. It's one thing when someone makes a mistake in life. This is an example of human depravity that is beyond what we can comprehend.

And mark my words, a sociopath like this will one day, again make headlines...and not for his work on a football field.

Other than that, I think he's a swell guy.


interesting how famous directors and football players get forgiven just about anything
 

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burmafrd;3584403 said:
interesting how famous directors and football players get forgiven just about anything

On the nosey.

This isn't a case of a guy making a mistake.

He repeatedly displayed sociopathic behavior no different than a serial killer. I guess his saving grace was he "only" serial killed dogs.

Guaranteed. He'll be in jail again someday.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3584408 said:
This Vick decision is the beginning of the end for Andy Reid.

I disagree, but if true, that would be 3 of the four NFCE coaches heads supposedly on the block.

If anything the McNabb decision would have been the turning point for Coach Reid.
 

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SkinsandTerps;3584411 said:
If anything the McNabb decision would have been the turning point for Coach Reid.
Well that's what I mean, if I'm understanding you correctly. This and the McNabb trade are all tied together. He basically sold it that they could trade McNabb because he had this young QB finally groomed and ready to play at a very high level -- and then he chooses a failed QB experiment and felon like Vick over Kolb. If it doesn't work, the fans will want his head. And it'll be even worse if McNabb plays well for you guys, which I think he will.

But Vick is perfect for Philly. Scum QB for scum fans.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3584422 said:
Well that's what I mean, if I'm understanding you correctly. This and the McNabb trade are all tied together. He basically sold it that they could trade McNabb because he had this young QB finally groomed and ready to play at a very high level -- and then he chooses a failed QB experiment and felon like Vick over Kolb. If it doesn't work, the fans will want his head. And it'll be even worse if McNabb plays well for you guys, which I think he will.

But Vick is perfect for Philly. Scum QB for scum fans.


Okay, we are on the same page. I thought you were simply saying benching Kolb for Vick. But the whole QB fiasco could be a problem for Reid. But I don't see a lot of guys out there that I would bring in to coach the Eagles at this point, unless they start from scratch.
 

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I'm in no way in support of what Vick did. But what are your thoughts on hunting for fun?

I'm all for being respectful of life but let's do it all the way around.
 

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Juke99;3584409 said:
On the nosey.

This isn't a case of a guy making a mistake.

He repeatedly displayed sociopathic behavior no different than a serial killer. I guess his saving grace was he "only" serial killed dogs.

Guaranteed. He'll be in jail again someday.

I agree with you totally Juke ,however how would you answer those who will argue :
he served his time for the crime ,and he deserve a second chance like everyone else
 
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