LOL! Ed Werder ON ESPN said Jerry Ripped Team in the locker Room...

Bach;2356714 said:
Nope. Some of us saw Jerry was reverting to his old self back when he first hired Wade. Actually, when he hired Garrett before Wade. Some are now finally seeing it for themselves. Some, like you are still blind, or just refuse to publicly acknowledge it.

:hammer:
 
BigDFan5;2356740 said:
and others like yourself blaming Jerry for players not making plays or coaches not coaching the team up are ridiculous. The man went and assembled what should be a great team. The coaches are failing him.

Minus all the character flaws.
 
Bach;2356714 said:
Nope. Some of us saw Jerry was reverting to his old self back when he first hired Wade. Actually, when he hired Garrett before Wade. Some are now finally seeing it for themselves. Some, like you are still blind, or just refuse to publicly acknowledge it.

:hammer: ditto!
 
BigDFan5;2356740 said:
and others like yourself blaming Jerry for players not making plays or coaches not coaching the team up are ridiculous. The man went and assembled what should be a great team. The coaches are failing him.


Soooo Jerry is great at assembling talented players but that same man assembled the failing coaching staff! Interesting!!
 
why is Jerry the problem? The problem is the players. They act like the world owes them this lap of luxury. They act like prima donnas.

Everything is given to them too easily and they dont really work for it....it isnt just Jerry, it is all pro sports today. With huge contracts you get huge egos. The players act like they are above everyone and can do as they please.

the only way to even come close to gaining control of them is for the entire league to considerably lower contracts across the board. of course the players association would never go for this. But with much lower wages, the players will have to bust their butts to reach the incentives they need to make more money.
 
Royal Laegotti;2356769 said:
Soooo Jerry is great at assembling talented players but that same man assembled the failing coaching staff! Interesting!!

At the time the hire was made Wade was the right choice for the right reasons. Hiring Norv would have been the obvious puppet move. He made the right choice at the time. Turns out bad now and will get rectified
 
BigDFan5;2356740 said:
and others like yourself blaming Jerry for players not making plays or coaches not coaching the team up are ridiculous. The man went and assembled what should be a great team. The coaches are failing him.

Ever the Jerry apologist. :laugh2:

Maybe if Jerry didn't revert back to hiring a soft, spineless HC we wouldn't be having these problems.

As for the players, quite a few of them were brought in here by BP and Ireland. And, it looks like we have more than a few who are quite overrated at that. I do think we had a good draft this past year, but Jerry's sorry coaching staff isnt' doing them any favors. But I'm sure none of that is Jerry's fault.
 
BigDFan5;2356813 said:
At the time the hire was made Wade was the right choice for the right reasons. Hiring Norv would have been the obvious puppet move. He made the right choice at the time. Turns out bad now and will get rectified

And why do you act like those are the only two choices we could've made? Neither was a good choice. And it didn't help matters for Jerry to hire the OC before the HC and basically let everyone know that he's grooming the OC to take over. Wade was a sorry hire from day one and a lameduck at that. Not really a recipe for success.
 
Bach;2356840 said:
Ever the Jerry apologist. :laugh2:

Maybe if Jerry didn't revert back to hiring a soft, spineless HC we wouldn't be having these problems.

As for the players, quite a few of them were brought in here by BP and Ireland. And, it looks like we have more than a few who are quite overrated at that. I do think we had a good draft this past year, but Jerry's sorry coaching staff isnt' doing them any favors. But I'm sure none of that is Jerry's fault.


truth hurt bud?


Hello did you even read my post? Its obvious now Wade was a mistake, but at the time the hire was made it was absolutely the right choice. Unfortunately there is no hindsight when it comes to football
 
Bach;2356852 said:
And why do you act like those are the only two choices we could've made? Neither was a good choice. And it didn't help matters for Jerry to hire the OC before the HC and basically let everyone know that he's grooming the OC to take over. Wade was a sorry hire from day one and a lameduck at that. Not really a recipe for success.


What other choices were there Bach tell me who was available that would get complete control and have made us a great team. Hell name the coach that would have just made us great
 
theebs;2355746 said:
I hope that isnt true.

If he is in there scolding the team then this thing is even more off the road than I even think it is.

I almost had respect for jerry again going into the 05 season, now that is long gone again.

the good thing is the fair weather fans will thin out.


Man, I hope he didn't do that, either. That is bad. That is Phillips' job.

I remember that qoute you put up, the Bradie James one. He said something about how they shouldn't be losing, because of all the talent in the room. I think some of the players may have an inflated view of the talent on the team for sure. I'm afraid some bought the hype. This team has problems in all three phases, and they have some coaching issues, too. However, they have some personnel issues as well.

This team should have played like its back was to the wall, and they didn't.
 
BigDFan5;2356855 said:
truth hurt bud?


Hello did you even read my post? Its obvious now Wade was a mistake, but at the time the hire was made it was absolutely the right choice. Unfortunately there is no hindsight when it comes to football

But obviously you can have SOME foresight, I mean many on this board including myself could see Wade was hired to be a dumplin' for the players after Bill's departure. To me that isn't the right reason to hire a certain coach.
 
BigDFan5;2356855 said:
truth hurt bud?

It must, hence why you still defend Jerry after all these years.


Hello did you even read my post? Its obvious now Wade was a mistake, but at the time the hire was made it was absolutely the right choice. Unfortunately there is no hindsight when it comes to football

What made Wade the right choice? The only way you could actually believe that is if you're under the false impression that we had to choose between Wade and Norv. But, we didn't have to, that's just the two options Jerry chose to choose from.
 
Royal Laegotti;2356888 said:
But obviously you can have SOME foresight, I mean many on this board including myself could see Wade was hired to be a dumplin' for the players after Bill's departure. To me that isn't the right reason to hire a certain coach.

That wasnt why he was hired and most people rightly believe he was hired because he had been putting up great defense in San Diego
 
Bach;2356889 said:
It must, hence why you still defend Jerry after all these years.




What made Wade the right choice? The only way you could actually believe that is if you're under the false impression that we had to choose between Wade and Norv. But, we didn't have to, that's just the two options Jerry chose to choose from.

Lets see we have alot invested in our defense we needed a strong defensive coach to try and get us over the top. Phillips ran one of the best 34 defenses in the league at the time. I believe his team had 60 sacks the season before we hired him.

As for the other choices, who was there that would have made us into a great team?
 
geez I am watching the score and they are showing the jerry interview in the locker room and galloway and jerry are nose to nose like boxers and galloway is challenging him with tough questions.

looked very uncomfortable. Like boxers!
 
theebs;2356908 said:
geez I am watching the score and they are showing the jerry interview in the locker room and galloway and jerry are nose to nose like boxers and galloway is challenging him with tough questions.

looked very uncomfortable. Like boxers!

Video link or it didn't happen.
 
Royal Laegotti;2356888 said:
But obviously you can have SOME foresight, I mean many on this board including myself could see Wade was hired to be a dumplin' for the players after Bill's departure. To me that isn't the right reason to hire a certain coach.


Was Wade the right choice, based on the last 4 weeks probably not. But at the time, Wade was the BEST choice.


Jerry wanted to implement a more aggressive more productive 3-4 defense. Wade was the architect of the most successful 3-4 D at time while DC of the Chargers.


What other coach was available at the time that met this criteria?
 
BigDFan5;2356897 said:
That wasnt why he was hired and most people rightly believe he was hired because he had been putting up great defense in San Diego

I won't disagree with that, that is true partly.

But I do remember rhetoric coming from the players and the owner about having a coach with a softer approach would be better for the team. Remember players talking crap about Parcells in the '07 training camp. It worked for about 3/4 of one season, so in all it didn't work if you want to win the Superbowl. They wanted a philosophical coaching change as Jerry would put it.
 

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