Look no further then the Eagles free agents this yr and see why we cannot compete!

[Hawkeye0202]

THey have cap space and no one with 60m cap hits.

Dak's cap hits the next 4 years:
2025 - 90m
2026 - 68m
2027 - 62m
2028 - 72m

Burrow's highest cap hit during this period is $53.5m. Love's is no more than $45m until 2028 when it is $76m. Lawrence no more than $47m. Dak's contract is beyond obscene.

Brown just was redone....he would be a huge hit this year unless someone takes on his contract. The Eagles have $19m in space with him. Barkley's cap number can be reduced with an extension. The loss of Kellen won't be a big deal, they will just plug someone else in.

Wishful thinking that the Eagles are gonna fall off a cliff soon.

Nope...don't expect them to fall off the cliff ( too much talent ) but every season has its challenges. Good point about Dak's cap hit vs other QBs but why? What is Stephen doing wrong? As for Brown........he and Vrabel are very close. Vrabel will try and trade for him according to a few nuggets. But knowing Howie, he will make that trade and replace him with a better player......lol.

 

[SuperBowlz]

They’re going to be challenged deciding who they can re-sign, Williams or Sweat. The Eagles are held to the same salary cap parameters as the other 31 teams. They’re not going to sign Myles Garrett.

They'd let Sweat walk if they got Garrett and can't resign Milton Williams anyway because someone will over pay for him and they can't afford to give a backup DT big money. He's gone even if they don't get Miles... but I just feel it happening. Watch

 

[Bobhaze]

Eagles signed:

-Barkley-having a legitimate mvp type of season
-Baun-is in contention for defensive player of the year.
-CJ Garner Johnson-key member of their secondary
-Becton-has solidified their OL when they converted him to Guard

All they lost was Reddick and they got a 2nd rd pick for him.

We signed Kendricks and lost players like Pollard, Fowler (had a tremendous yr), Armstrong, Gilmore, Tyron Smith. Got nothing but late rd comp picks.

The Cowboys Model of just drafting, developing and signing their own just doesn't work in this current landscape. Until they change, expect similar results. This was the reason why I was pushing BB and Saban since our blow out loss to the Lions as they had the clout/hardware to try to convince the Jones Family changes were needed. Now they hire another puppet and we can expect a good team, but never a legitimate super bowl contender.

True. And take this in when realizing what clowns we have running our salary cap….
Trey Lance had a bigger cap hit this year than Saquon Barkley. After adjusting his contract numbers this year, Barkley’s actual cap hit was $3.8 mil. Lance had a $5.1 mil overall cap hit.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Eagles signed:

-Barkley-having a legitimate mvp type of season
-Baun-is in contention for defensive player of the year.
-CJ Garner Johnson-key member of their secondary
-Becton-has solidified their OL when they converted him to Guard

All they lost was Reddick and they got a 2nd rd pick for him.

We signed Kendricks and lost players like Pollard, Fowler (had a tremendous yr), Armstrong, Gilmore, Tyron Smith. Got nothing but late rd comp picks.

The Cowboys Model of just drafting, developing and signing their own just doesn't work in this current landscape. Until they change, expect similar results. This was the reason why I was pushing BB and Saban since our blow out loss to the Lions as they had the clout/hardware to try to convince the Jones Family changes were needed. Now they hire another puppet and we can expect a good team, but never a legitimate super bowl contender.

I have trouble when we start comparing ourselves to the Eagles, because its pretty much EVERYTHING we do is done differently. Its interesting you point to FA (which some fans have picked up on and gone down the 'see we need FA's').
They base their internal development and strategy on objected performance, not Jerry's commercial/star name.

The pertinent question and starting point is whether we would of traded Reddick? The moral of the story.....dont hold-out on Roseman, or he'll move your @rse. We add, we never reinvest. Jerry has a 'hoarding disorder' based on not just liking his own, but an inability to evaluate progressive output and value for money.....there are numerous platforms to help that, but Jerry's stuck in the past....adding overpaid extensions to players that arent performing.

The other difference is....after the GB game, and knowing we we'rent going to compete (to a serious/high level) in 2024 would Roseman of kept: J-Lew, Osa, Martin, Dlaw .....the answer's probably 'no'... he'd probably consider a proper reset to facilitate a rebuild.

 

[Sarge]

Sad.

 

[Coogiguy03]

It starts at the top

How many times are we going to discuss this

 

[DZSierra]

To your point, both Bechton and Braun were marginal players, at best, and in one year because stars. If I were in their shoes, I would thank my lucky stars and not try for a massive payday in Jacksonville or wherever, but that's me.

Agree 100%.

That said, you also need a QB who is working with the organization pay wise to free up some money to surround himself with better players.

Someone here said Philly was in cap hell from here on out.

I sincerely question that statement.

Why didn't Wentz cripple the organization back in 2017? For whatever reason, Philly seems to wheel and deal, and know when to cut their losses as they did with Wentz. The only QB who won them their only SB was let go because he wanted and got more money in Jacksonville, and guess what, he got no argument from Philly for doing so. Remember when Hurts was the highest paid QB "at the time"? Hasn't seemed to cripple Philly one bit. Look at the chiefs or the Bills or the Ravens. I really haven't heard their owners complain about the cap.

Then you have the Browns and now the Cowboys with their QB issues and cap issues LOL

 

[Cowboyny]

True. And take this in when realizing what clowns we have running our salary cap….
Trey Lance had a bigger cap hit this year than Saquon Barkley. After adjusting his contract numbers this year, Barkley’s actual cap hit was $3.8 mil. Lance had a $5.1 mil overall cap hit.

Then can create more cap space if they want to and go out and spend just the same, but they rather maintain cap flexibility. In any business, if you don’t take any chances you will never achieve success. It seems their past mistakes have made them gun shy so to speak

 

[CowboyoWales]

it works as long as you successfully replenish the pool. but when you have two bad years in a row and don't dip into FA, then you are screwed.

We are screwed. The problem is you're seeing some kind of window (possibly around Dak's next 4 years), many of us say that with:
-Jerry,
-Dak's contract (and shortcomings ie- inability to claw back deficits),
- the mega deals coming to Tyler and especially Micah,
- the extremely thin roster both in quantity and quality and
- the fact for the next three years we're potentially looking at a high of getting 6th seed in the play-offs (with Comms/Eagles fighting for the division).

Many of us think there is no window and adding one or two FA's isnt tipping us over any edge..... many of us can see that the only way forward is Post Jerry and the only way he'll cede total control is if we're embarrassed on the field and he accepts help by way of a proper GM.

 

[Cmac]

This franchise siging washed-up Zeke and thinking we were good at RB to me symbolizes everything wrong with Jerry and why we are now the laughing stock of the league.

.....it became arrogance and then desperation......don't forget about Dalvin Cook and our WR group. The visually impaired saw it

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Until JJ gets rid of his coveting of comp picks, nothing will change in free agency with this team.

 

[KingCorcoran]

They'd let Sweat walk if they got Garrett and can't resign Milton Williams anyway because someone will over pay for him and they can't afford to give a backup DT big money. He's gone even if they don't get Miles... but I just feel it happening. Watch

The point is like every other team in the NFL the Eagles must make the most prudent decisions on personnel and compensation. They may not re-sign Sweat or Williams. That does not mean they’re going to even show interest in signing Myles Garrett. Obviously they’ve figured out they can win the NFC without him. The fact they do manage the salary cap well does not mean they’re going to chase down every high priced free agent.

 

[mote]

The point is like every other team in the NFL the Eagles must make the most prudent decisions on personnel and compensation. They may not re-sign Sweat or Williams. That does not mean they’re going to even show interest in signing Myles Garrett. Obviously they’ve figured out they can win the NFC without him. The fact they do manage the salary cap well does not mean they’re going to chase down every high priced free agent.

And past experiences with signing the big name, high priced guys were not great. That "Dream Team" was anything but.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I know these players have short careers, and that of course they're motivated to make as much money as possible in that window, but I wonder how much (some) players are willing to concede for being in the right environment, and for the amazing coaching and opportunities they received to get that newfound success. To your point, both Bechton and Braun were marginal players, at best, and in one year because stars. If I were in their shoes, I would thank my lucky stars and not try for a massive payday in Jacksonville or wherever, but that's me.

Hard to say.... it's kinda easy for us to say "what's so big a difference between 35 million and 40 million"

But I imagine for me....once I started thinking about it a whole, that 5 million would seem bigger and bigger.

You could hand that extra 5 million to your grandkids one day. Set generations up for life.

Guess it also depends on ur age: if ur 23, yeah the best situation is probably worth leaving $ on the table, because I might make you MORE money down the line.

But if you're 29, or 30? Your next contract will likely be ur last, so probably best to take largest signing bonus /guaranteed money you can get....even with a krappy team

 

[DB_Cooper]

How Roseman can flip an average quarterback every few years for two number one picks bothers me… The Bradford trade helped them win their first superbowl and the Wentz trade has positioned them to do it again after already returning.

 

[gimmesix]

THey have cap space and no one with 60m cap hits.

Dak's cap hits the next 4 years:
2025 - 90m
2026 - 68m
2027 - 62m
2028 - 72m

Burrow's highest cap hit during this period is $53.5m. Love's is no more than $45m until 2028 when it is $76m. Lawrence no more than $47m. Dak's contract is beyond obscene.

Brown just was redone....he would be a huge hit this year unless someone takes on his contract. The Eagles have $19m in space with him. Barkley's cap number can be reduced with an extension. The loss of Kellen won't be a big deal, they will just plug someone else in.

Wishful thinking that the Eagles are gonna fall off a cliff soon.

I hope they have to replace Kellen. It isn't that I think he's a great OC, I just like any disruptions we can get. The last time they had to replace an OC after a Super Bowl, it didn't go that well for them the next year.

 

[Clove]

All you have to do is read the link below to see how savvy the eagles were and in contrast how inept Jerry & family are. They had Carson Wentz, a top draft pick and still drafted Jalen Hurts. Then had the balls to trade their top draft pick, although they'd recently signed him, and garnered a 1st & 3rd for him. And turned that with the help of that 3rd round pick for DeVonta Smith. They also traded for Slay and cleared out plenty of cap room from the Carson trade to be dominate in free agency.

These are boss moves, meanwhile. the Cowboys are holding on to a stiff in Dak, a guy with a weak arm and takes sacks. A team that is relying on only draft picks to build their sorry team, while hosting coaches who's coaching staff is made up of pieces mainly Jerry picked.
Eagles = winners
Cowboys = losers

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...arson-wentz-aj-brown/r4e4dgugbarm4ayclaiwsd0k

 

[KingCorcoran]

I hope they have to replace Kellen. It isn't that I think he's a great OC, I just like any disruptions we can get. The last time they had to replace an OC after a Super Bowl, it didn't go that well for them the next year.

If that happens that would mean 4 OCs in 5 years for Hurts. It doesn’t seem to make much of a difference to him.

 

[gimmesix]

If that happens that would mean 4 OCs in 5 years for Hurts. It doesn’t seem to make much of a difference to him.

I don't know. Last year, the Eagles got off to a strong start, but cracks began to show on offense and derailed them.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I don't know. Last year, the Eagles got off to a strong start, but cracks began to show on offense and derailed them.

They ended with 11 wins and in the playoffs. Like the Cowboys they were eliminated in the wild card round, although the Eagles did not lose at home. We all see how both franchises responded. If Moore gets Saints job it will be the third Sirianni coordinator to get a Head Coach position, he’s only in his 4th year as a head coach.

Needless to say, being that kind of launching pad and with that roster the list of guys wanting to be the Eagles’ next offensive coordinator will be long and distinguished.