Look no further then the Eagles free agents this yr and see why we cannot compete!

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Apologies if this has been mentioned . The DC GM gifted Quinn 6 FA starters on D . Among the 6 LB Luvu & Wagner DL Fowler & Armstrong ( ring a bell ) plus Chinn and one other in the secondary . Quinn didn’t suddenly become a coaching magician and Kingsbury ran the offense .

Quinn had to decide to go for 2 on TD’s and if the offense stayed on the field for 4th down . Glad him and MM are now both gone . The Eagles embarrassed them the way GB chewed up and spit out Dallas .
 

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Cowboys fire head coach! Yay!

Bill Belichick is available! Yay!

Cowboys instead hire OC from staff of HC they just fired?? Booooooooooo
 

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How Roseman can flip an average quarterback every few years for two number one picks bothers me… The Bradford trade helped them win their first superbowl and the Wentz trade has positioned them to do it again after already returning.
Yep, Roseman's not running his team based on commercial activities and he's able to project value, which allows him to be pro-active rather than running down every contract.
The amount of deals they make (inc during the draft) is just light year's away from Jerry's thinking.
It's like 21th Century management Vrs Prehistoric.
 

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Eagles signed:

-Barkley-having a legitimate mvp type of season
-Baun-is in contention for defensive player of the year.
-CJ Garner Johnson-key member of their secondary
-Becton-has solidified their OL when they converted him to Guard

All they lost was Reddick and they got a 2nd rd pick for him.

We signed Kendricks and lost players like Pollard, Fowler (had a tremendous yr), Armstrong, Gilmore, Tyron Smith. Got nothing but late rd comp picks.

The Cowboys Model of just drafting, developing and signing their own just doesn't work in this current landscape. Until they change, expect similar results. This was the reason why I was pushing BB and Saban since our blow out loss to the Lions as they had the clout/hardware to try to convince the Jones Family changes were needed. Now they hire another puppet and we can expect a good team, but never a legitimate super bowl contender.
The Cowboys model would work....but the problem is we don't follow through with resigning their own players. And that falls on Stephen for being an idiot....since he controls the cap. He does a horrible job when it comes to manipulating the cap. It's all phony numbers...and he doesn't know how to get a contract done...then move money around years later...by turning hard numbers into signing bonuses...that doesn't effect the cap.
 

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The Cowboys model would work....but the problem is we don't follow through with resigning their own players. And that falls on Stephen for being an idiot....since he controls the cap. He does a horrible job when it comes to manipulating the cap. It's all phony numbers...and he doesn't know how to get a contract done...then move money around years later...by turning hard numbers into signing bonuses...that doesn't effect the cap.
That's an interesting discussion point. It could be argued that we didn't lose much 'starting' talent pre-2024 (if we take that Tyron can't really go through a whole season).
The problem with the 'model', or any model that's so rigid is that its open to abuse by the agents (eg France), it also means you're leaving yourself open to vastly overpaying your own to stop them hitting the market....and you end up paying them, on familiarity grounds (and past performance) rather than projection.
The other issue is that you end up with an insular roster that have no outside experience....the gene pool is diluted and players feel comfortable.
 

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In 2023 the Eagles barely beat us at home and then we blew them out in Dallas to end the season. Now they look like a juggernaut and we look like a meddling team hoping to get a wildcard. What the heck happened?
 

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In 2023 the Eagles barely beat us at home and then we blew them out in Dallas to end the season. Now they look like a juggernaut and we look like a meddling team hoping to get a wildcard. What the heck happened?
A lot of the Eagles' core players improved (i.e. Dean, Carter, Davis), a smart draft landed multiple defensive starters and of course FA additions like Baun and Barkley. Plus, changing OCs led to better schemes and performance.
 

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A lot of the Eagles' core players improved (i.e. Dean, Carter, Davis), a smart draft landed multiple defensive starters and of course FA additions like Baun and Barkley. Plus, changing OCs led to better schemes and performance.
It’s like they hit a homerun on 9/10 of their offseason moves. While the Cowboys went 0/10 with 10 strikeouts.:facepalm:
 

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In 2023 the Eagles barely beat us at home and then we blew them out in Dallas to end the season. Now they look like a juggernaut and we look like a meddling team hoping to get a wildcard. What the heck happened?
Yeah this eagle talks getting old, people keep leaving out the fact that they just played our backups Washington and Philly both got to play the Dallas practice squad mostly all backups not all I know it doesn't sound like in nothing but an excuse but that's the truth we had the most injuries in the entire NFL and they were a lot to keep players at one position or another it was almost completely destroyed playing with practice squad players as starters it's tough to win in this league especially against a team loaded like the eagles but Washington struggled to beat us so the gaps are not as big as people wanna make because the injuries matter yes they matter they may not be an excuse to some but they are real factual reasons there was an appearance that the eagles were more dominant I'm sorry but I've seen healthy Cowboys versus healthy eagles and it's typically a split the rest of the NFC can't even compete with Dallas when they're fully healthy...

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to take away anything the eagles have done this year kudos to them but we're exaggerating here I know that they put together a better roster but history says otherwise between Dallas and the eagles we've owned this division I'm not that worried about Washington we'll see and they may have had the best year in 2024 but they did not see our best and I know we're going through a big transition but I always see this as a year to year league and I don't worry about last year or this year but if you wanna keep bringing up the past and have to ask it was injuries this year it was injuries in 2020 to both the eagles and the Cowboys that allowed Washington to win the division at below 500...

It happens and again the eagles had a great year this year I hope they get curb stomped by the chiefs that would be my preference and we all suit up and play them twice next year and I gotta hope that we're at full capacity literally history says the eagles and Cowboys no matter what the rosters have looked like are very competitive and the rest of the NFC East Dallas typically dominates we did not just fall off a Cliff if you can't see that we had the most injuries in the NFL and that is more the reason why Washington and the eagles had a little bit better record this year because they did not have to compete against a fully healthy Cowboys team well then you just wanna see the eagles is better and that's why I don't like it I'm tired of hearing about the eagles..​
Yes howdy roseman's a better GM than Jerry but The funny thing is we beat them for the division twice in the last four years I mean that is a fact that we're compete with them even if we're not having as good a offseason just imagine if Jerry does just a little bit more and they help schottenheimer a little bit more this year the eagles may still be slightly better than the Cowboys on paper which they are but that doesn't mean the Cowboys can't compete with them...​
 

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I don't need to look any further than the eagles so to the original poster and anybody on here that keeps slobbering over the green drool over the siegel's then I have to tell you I'd rather look at what Kansas city's doing you're the team that's been a dynasty they're the ones winning all the Super bowls they're the ones that seven straight years have had success and to me seven straight years each year they've had to get rid of talent they tried to work around the salary and they are the least biggest players as far as if you look at all the most successful teams go look at their moves in the offseason I don't remember any big moves I remember more subtractions and additions they are doing great work with the draft they are also working in more budget minded free agents nothing huge they getting guys like are you kidding me you're telling me that the Kansas City Chiefs picking up Kareem hunt off the trash heap he wasn't even on a practice squad he's not much better than Rico and yet they found a way to utilize him better than our coaching staff that's the point I'm getting to but Hopkins is not a great player he's been traded or cut like 4 times in the last four years and yet he's doing pretty well I mean most of what I've seen is them keep retain the players they think are the most important of their own and then they feel fine ways to utilize what's out there to the best I've seen in the NFL to do more with less and it's mostly to do with their coaching staff..

So yes they're GM and their coaching staff is much more impressive than the eagles because they didn't need to go all in to keep getting back to the Super bowl they've been doing less and they are the king of the hill right now so yes I'm not giving the eagles any credit even though yes they deserve to be called the best in the NFC this year they were the winners in the NFC East this year but they don't get to be the blueprint because a lot of teams that go all in and spend that kind of money and are that aggressive are supposed to get there, and when they don't it's a failure ,like last year when they fell on their face the last eight games ,

but when the Kansas City Chiefs do it the way they do it they need the flowers and they did this in new england as well and they were both dynasties.

So why don't all you capologists that are drooling over the eagles go look at the last three off seasons for the Kansas City Chiefs and you break them down and then compare them to a little bit to the Cowboys it will probably be eye opening.

Would it be nice for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys to be a little bit more aggressive have a better offseason yes we would love that but most teams like the chiefs do it more like the Cowboys but they do it better than the Cowboys because again their coaching staff scouting department and GM are better than us that's made the difference more than spending the most money on free agents. Think about it say ,Barkley versus Kareem hunt ,that's what they had look at their skill players versus the eagles I mean it's just looks like they shouldn't even be in the Super bowl when you just look at it on paper that's impressive..
 

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Jerry and Stephen. We can whine about players till our faces turn blue and purple. It's those two who pull all the strings at the end of the day. I really don't wast energy complaining about the product anymore because Jerry and Son will just continue to run this franchise like a circus until they sell the team.
You just did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Those 2 DT's keep Braun clean, lets him flow to the ball,

In addition they are not just space eaters, they are very disruptive no matter down distance

A Eberfus DC would be more of the lightwt d.line....O.Lines to athletic ....size matters but with speed.
Oh, absolutely!!

Funny how Baun was an afterthought in NO, comes to a team w/ topnotch DT's, and suddenly is a stud.

It cannot be overstated how important the DL is to the LBs. And not just medium DT's, need top of the league types. The DT position affects every other position on D. There is no other position on D that you can say that about. There has never been a top D w/o top DT's.
 

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When Philly adds another trophy next week I wonder if Stephen will see that as “not sustainable.”

As if they will have to give it back if they have cap problems in five years.
 

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If that happens that would mean 4 OCs in 5 years for Hurts. It doesn’t seem to make much of a difference to him.
Might be the easiest OC job in the league. Here, give the ball to Saquon. Okay, run when you see an opening. Pass? Brown, Smith, Goedart...someone will catch it. LOL.
 

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This franchise siging washed-up Zeke and thinking we were good at RB to me symbolizes everything wrong with Jerry and why we are now the laughing stock of the league.
Then Jerry doubled down and forced Big Mike to give him more snaps when Zeke was complaining
 

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It helps to have a competent GM that can evaluate talent and pull the trigger. Jerry cares more about ratings and marketing to fill seats. This should be painfully obvious.
It is not that he cares more. It is because marketing and selling is all he is "qualified" to do. It go back to his days dressing in curls and singing and dancing t his Father's store

He is inept at evaluating talent
 

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I know it doesn't really matter but it appears that Jerry is the one wanting to spend and Stephen is stopping him at every opportunity. That doesn't bode well for the long term future certainly.
Stephen will be ran out of town when Jerry croaks. Especially if he tries to do "Business" as "Usual" the Media will be relentless

Stephen will hire. GM and all these shenanigans will be a thing of the past
 

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Might be the easiest OC job in the league. Here, give the ball to Saquon. Okay, run when you see an opening. Pass? Brown, Smith, Goedart...someone will catch it. LOL.
Yep, but the key is….sign Saquon in the first place.

Our front office loses us games constantly.

Ezekiel Elliott? Seriously Jerry?

And they get up there and figure it to be a given that they are qualified to do this and are the best people for the job.

Pure delusion driven by ego.
 
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