Looking back: Was it a mistake not to go back to Romo

[pete026]

Yeah no. The difference between you and me is I research, so when I say something I know it’s true. You rely on other people to do your research, so when they are wrong not only are you wrong, you have no idea that you are. Next time you call somebody stupid you better be looking in a mirror. You’re not on my level when it comes to discussing this stuff.
First of all the 2011 Green Bay Packers have given up the most passing yards in a season in NFL history. Yes, the 15-1 Green Bay Packers. That was true then and they still hold the record today.
Second, the idea that the most passing yards given up is the measure of the “worst” passing defense is laughable. As if a team could go 15-1 and still have the worst pass defense ever. All passing yards tells you is that a team played in a lot of high possession games. A far better measure would be opponent passer rating or yards per attempt, and we can see that in 2015 the Giants ranked 21st in opponent passer rating, not good but not especially bad and certainly not historic. A quick glance at their schedule does indicate they played in a lot of shootout type games with both the offense and defense scoring a lot of points and creating a lot of possessions. There was nothing especially bad about their defense on a per play basis.

I apologize, the NFL stats were right but the article was wrong. The 2011 Packers gave up 13 more yards passing than the 2015 Giants. And total yards is not the best stat to determine the performance of a defense.

But a passing defense which performed, at best, at the mediocre level of the Giants should have easily been dissected by the Cowboys. 2 FGs in the first half? But players and teams have slow starts and the Cowboys have been prone to them, especially against lesser opponents. I believe I pointed that out to you a few years back. So where does that leave us......... the original sidebar was Romo's level of play in 2015 and whether that would indicate a better outcome for the Cowboys in 2016. I would say it is inconclusive but you are free to argue the point.

 

[Aviano90]

Romo had a 103 QB rating against the Giants, he had a game winning drive in the last minute of the game, I don’t know what else can I say, as far as losing records, it was the first game of the season so...

Against the Eagles they were leading 13-0 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd Q, with the ball at the eagles 30 yard line, that’s when he got injured, he was playing well.

Anyway, to each his own I guess

He had a 103 rating thanks to 2 late 4th quarter touchdowns, dinking and dunking the ball down the field. Up until that point the offense had put up 13 points and struggled. Romo was inaccurate this game and had it not been for the Giants trying to milk clock instead of scoring late in the game only to have Eli throw the ball away to stop the clock on 3rd down, we lose that game.

As for the Eagles game, we were leading 13-0 but 7 of those points were from the special teams. Romo only had a 87.7 rating this game with a fumble on the play he got injured. Brandon Weeden came in and went 7/7 and a TD for a 149.7 rating after replacing him as a comparison.

The Giants were the worst pass defense in the league. Philly was the 5th worst pass defense.

Yeah, Romo struggled, especially compared to the high praise his fans bestow upon him and compared to the harsh criticism Dak receives because he is not Romo. Dak gets shredded on this board for blowing out teams with losing records and bad defenses. Another double standard.

 

[Aviano90]

Ok then, 3 TD’s, 103 QB rating, completed 36 of 45 passes, 360 yards but I guess ROMO SUCKED BIG TIME. Lol.

If that is how you feel, I’d bet you think Dak sucks too because half his TD’s in 2019 were against the Commanders and Giants, 2 of the 3 worst teams in the league and he’a record against playoff teams was awful. Smh.

Romo sucks if he is compared to the same standard Dak is held to by diehard Romo fans. Not sure if they figured it out but when they come up with reasons why Dak sucks, we can take those same reasons and show how they apply to Romo as well. They actually make Romo look worse by trying to defend him with the crap they pull out of their ***.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

If Romo has a long and impactful career on TV, he might get in that way

 

[Jake]

Revisionist history is great. It always turns out the way you like it.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Revisionist history is great. It always turns out the way you like it.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Romo blew his chance in 2014 when he had a better supporting cast, yet put up less points against the Packers.

 

[BigD_95]

I wonder how things would have played out in 2016 if Romo got his job back once he became healthy.

Perhaps he could have taken the team all the way to the Superbowl like he almost did in 2014.

Perhaps Romo could have played one more season and Dak would only have 2018 and 2019 as being a starter for this team. His value would most likely be worth less because 2017 was a down year for Dak.

Perhaps he could've got re-injured and Dak would've stepped back in only further proving Romo's durability issues.

But to this day I still think Garrett and Jones did Romo dirty by not giving him his starting job back.

Jason Garrett.....*shivers*

yes it was a mistake. You should not lose your job to injury. Not when you are a good QB. Its pathetic how they treated Romo at the end. Disrespectful.

and now look how Dak is treating the Cowboys organization. Demanding a 4 year deal. Romo would have never done this.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

yes it was a mistake. You should not lose your job to injury. Not when you are a good QB. Its pathetic how they treated Romo at the end. Disrespectful.

and now look how Dak is treating the Cowboys organization. Demanding a 4 year deal. Romo would have never done this.

lmaoOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE GOT TO BE TROLLING

 

[Diehardblues]

I think the bigger question now is:
Would it have served us better letting him spend another year or two behind Romo?

At the time we were afraid benching Dak might have prevented more success but turns out we didn’t have any more success.

Can’t help but wonder what Romo could have done with that supporting cast if he could stay healthy. Couldn’t have been much worse than what we had with Dak.

 

[aikemirv]

Romo blew his chance in 2014 when he had a better supporting cast, yet put up less points against the Packers.

HIghest QB rating to ever lose a playoff game but Romo blew it - that is a special kind of stupid.

Talk to Demarco Murray the fumbler!

 

[Aviano90]

HIghest QB rating to ever lose a playoff game but Romo blew it - that is a special kind of stupid.

Talk to Demarco Murray the fumbler!

Yeah, that fumble did hurt. Romo's 2 fumbles that day didn't help either.

 

[aikemirv]

Yeah, that fumble did hurt. Romo's 2 fumbles that day didn't help either.

Oh so now we talk about fumbles that were not even lost.

One on a sack which he recovered -no effect

2nd - he fumbled and recovered and passed the ball downfield..

Like I said - this is a special kind of stupid!

 

[Aviano90]

Oh so now we talk about fumbles that were not even lost.

One on a sack which he recovered -no effect

2nd - he fumbled and recovered and passed the ball downfield..

Like I said - this is a special kind of stupid!

Of course, they helped stall drives. On the first sack he could have dumped the ball off to Murray who probably would have gotten the first down to keep our first drive alive. The 2nd fumble caused a blown play and while he threw the ball away downfield quickly, the play never had a chance of succeeding. Those stalled drives hurt us just like Murray's lost fumble did.

Quit trying to protect a player. All mistakes contribute to a loss, not just the one Murray fumble. That's a special kind of stupid.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Oh so now we talk about fumbles that were not even lost.

One on a sack which he recovered -no effect

2nd - he fumbled and recovered and passed the ball downfield..

Like I said - this is a special kind of stupid!

Lol, so now we are choosing which fumbles are bad?

Like I said, special kind of stupid!

 

[aikemirv]

Of course, they helped stall drives. On the first sack he could have dumped the ball off to Murray who probably would have gotten the first down to keep our first drive alive. The 2nd fumble caused a blown play and while he threw the ball away downfield quickly, the play never had a chance of succeeding. Those stalled drives hurt us just like Murray's lost fumble did.

Quit trying to protect a player. All mistakes contribute to a loss, not just the one Murray fumble. That's a special kind of stupid.

Nice argument change - the fumble while getting sacked and recovering it is a non factor end of story. Don't change it to - he could have avoided the sack with a dump-off since I called you on it.

I don't recall the other so I can't comment on the effect itself.

Murrays fumble completely changed the game - that is fact! Your other nonsense is just that!

 

[aikemirv]

Lol, so now we are choosing which fumbles are bad?

Like I said, special kind of stupid!

Well obviously lost fumbles are a big deal in case you don't quite understand!

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Well obviously lost fumbles are a big deal in case you don't quite understand!

All fumbles are bad, if you don't understand that we can't help you.

The luck of who ends up falling on it doesn't matter when talking about performance, which is what we were debating.

Special kind of stupid!

 

[CowboysRule]

I keep hearing that Romo would have done better in 2016 with an elite RB, but his best season was 2014 with Murray who had the best season a Dallas RB ever had.

And Romo put up better numbers than Rodgers that year (who won MVP).

 

[Aviano90]

Nice argument change - the fumble while getting sacked and recovering it is a non factor end of story. Don't change it to - he could have avoided the sack with a dump-off since I called you on itc

I don't recall the other so I can't comment on the effect itself.

Murrays fumble completely changed the game - that is fact! Your other nonsense is just that!

I'll grant you, the fumble in and of itself wouldn't have made a difference since he was sacked on 3rd down. Taking the unnecessary sack was the bigger issue. He did that several times that day.

Murray's fumble was a big game changer, but that doesn't erase all the other mistakes (including Romo's) that cost us to lose that game. Why Romo fans continue to overlook his mistakes and focus solely on someone else all the time is the nonsense you talk about. It's like you guys think there can only be one reason the team loses and that reason can never be Romo.