dstew60105
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Dumb thread. OP must be still drunk from the weekend....
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Looks like a bad year for Will McClay
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Dumb thread. OP must be still drunk from the weekend....
ScipioCowboy
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Daaaaaaaaang.
erod
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He said he got dominated against good defensive linemen in pass protection.
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Hey guys, McClay sucks, we dont draft 1st round talent in ever round. dood sux because i think so.
TheTruthIsOutThere
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While I understand you can't get hits on them all, if you are going to build solely through the draft you have to hit on most of them.
CouchCoach
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Too early to make the call on the last two drafts and what has changed since the 3 year rule in judging draft picks? The only thing that's changed are our expectations; it still takes time for lineman to develop and we get one OL to make All Pro, for the first time in 60 years, and the exception become the rule. Larry Allen needed time and he got rag dolled by Reggie White as part of his indoctrination.
That 3 year rule came into play before FA and most didn't even see the field in real games in year 1 but I think we can apply less time now except for one position, OL, other than LT. The spread offense in college was created out of necessity because of the lack of enough quality OL to go around. The reason Yosemite and Martin came in so ready was because their HC's at WIS and ND played a pro style O featuring the run. Conner Williams had to convert from OT to OG coming from the Big 12 plus bulk up to fit the position, he's definitely a 3 year evaluation. Look at La'el Collins progress since he came in and he was a 1st rounder.
The other thing we do is take year 1 as real too often as we did with Prescott and Gallup and both struggled in their 2nd year, just as we're seeing Mayfield struggle.
Hill is different, he was available in the 2nd for different reasons and that is becoming a problem.
A lot of college players can get by on their brawn but once they get to this level, their brawn is seldom that much of a difference. Now, they have to learn to use their brain and for some players that takes longer. Players like Kuechly and Lee are the exceptions.
That 3 year rule came into play before FA and most didn't even see the field in real games in year 1 but I think we can apply less time now except for one position, OL, other than LT. The spread offense in college was created out of necessity because of the lack of enough quality OL to go around. The reason Yosemite and Martin came in so ready was because their HC's at WIS and ND played a pro style O featuring the run. Conner Williams had to convert from OT to OG coming from the Big 12 plus bulk up to fit the position, he's definitely a 3 year evaluation. Look at La'el Collins progress since he came in and he was a 1st rounder.
The other thing we do is take year 1 as real too often as we did with Prescott and Gallup and both struggled in their 2nd year, just as we're seeing Mayfield struggle.
Hill is different, he was available in the 2nd for different reasons and that is becoming a problem.
A lot of college players can get by on their brawn but once they get to this level, their brawn is seldom that much of a difference. Now, they have to learn to use their brain and for some players that takes longer. Players like Kuechly and Lee are the exceptions.
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This is where I stopped reading. You can't be reasonable.
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Years of fantastic drafts?
Wut?
Wut?
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I think there is more than enough evidence at this point to at least opine that we may have made a mistake with Hill. He couldn't get active despite an opportunity at DT. He only then became active when Crawford got hurt. He logs limited minutes in games and then it turns out he may have some of those same issues off the field that he had at UCF that people were concerned with.
This thing is certainly not trending the right way.
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Your display picture is a Mcclay pick. Funny post
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CouchCoach
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We've even had venting posts about venting so that's out. Maybe we should have a "Guess the Vent" thread?
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Only a fool gives up on a draft pick Les than a year after being drafted in the 2nd round.
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Let me help you out. Dude is no prophet. lol, You hit the nail on the head with the alternative option.
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Bingo Rocky. You have that diagnosed exactly right.
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So when you said "Connor McGovern has a history of injuries, and might never see the field here. He wasn't beloved at Penn State at all."...
...^^^^This was just spelled wrong?
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Are you new here?