Looks like another year of cheap/injured/washed up Free Agents for us

[CATCH17]

Exactly.

Anybody who celebrated us resigning Dak has no business complaining that we don't get high-profile free agents.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You guys chose Dak. Suck it up and deal with it now.

Lol... They still want to be able to say what if Dak had a defense while also being ok with way overpaying him..

 

[JoeKing]

It's really not apples and oranges. It's a simple analogy to show that recent results, in almost every walk of life, tends to carry more weight as time goes on than results way in the past. It's why coaches get fired eventually even if they have early success. It's why GMs get fired eventually even if they have early success.

You are conflating things here as well because you struggle to admit Jerry has been a poor steward of the football operations in recent years. Separate Jerry the business owner of the Cowboys from Jerry the director of football operations. Jerry is clearly a shrewd business person, having made money in a variety of industries. He's also a master marketer having had the ability to tap into the popularity and culture of the Cowboys. There is no question that he's a fantastic owner from a business sense. It's why he's in the Hall of Fame. You could argue no owner has shaped the business side of the NFL more than Jerry over the last 30 years.

He's most certainly not in the Hall of Fame for his GM skills, however. Jerry Jones (and his kid) have run football operations since Jimmy left. Since the last SB with a team Jerry and Jimmy built, 25 years have gone by and over that period, they have 4 playoff wins total. Yes, you read that right. In 25 years since their last SB, they have won only 4 playoff games. They are one of like 6-8 teams in the entire NFL who have not even played in a conference title game over that same period. What GM in the NFL would survive that kind of run? No one would.

You made this statement:



It's really not the last couple of years. It's been 25 years as I noted above. The franchise has not won a thing since 1995. He's had sole control of all things on the football side of the franchise over that period. Further, the Cowboys lack of any sound, rational plan in FA other than be real cheap has come into play more in recent years as Stephen as become more involved. There was a time when Jerry might throw a dumb contract at a FA but he no longer does that largely because Stephen has sold him on the idea that spending in FA doesn't work. This has been evident since the Brandon Carr contract.

The problem is these have operated on the edges. They went from Jerry spending like an idiot in FA to Jerry not spending any real money. There is a huge gap between spending like a fool in FA and not spending much at all and the Cowboys seem intent on ignoring it.

And it shows in their recent results. For while they draft better than average, their teams are clearly flawed year to year because they simply fail to acknowledge holes or overvalue their ability to find cheap options to fill those holes adequately. Look back at their free agent signings over the last 5 years. Very few, if any, have really made any real impact. And it shows on the field as the team has continually underperformed and been let down by clear holes that they refused to try to fill (mostly on defense over the years) with good players.

PS - Where did you pull this idea that he's one of the most respected GMs in football?

tldr - we aren't writing books here. It shouldn't take so many words to make your point.

 

[Sydla]

tldr - we aren't writing books here. It shouldn't take so many words to make your point.

I'll summarize:

4.

That's the number of playoff wins the Cowboys have over the last quarter century. All 25 of those years since their last SB win in 1995, Jerry Jones has had control over all aspects of the football operations - hiring coaches, draft, free agency, scouting, etc.

Now tell me, what GM in this league would survive and keep his job if he built a team that won only 4 playoff games total in 25 years? No rational human being can look at that kind of run over 25 years and say, "Man, that Jerry Jones, hell of a GM run right there.........."

 

[CyberB0b]

Exactly.

Anybody who celebrated us resigning Dak has no business complaining that we don't get high-profile free agents.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You guys chose Dak. Suck it up and deal with it now.

The extension opened up more cap space than if we franchised him.

 

[Big_D]

It continues to surprise me how confused many of our posters can be when it comes to how the NFL works

Some of you guys are like the kid you see in the grocery store, constantly picking stuff up off the shelf and saying “mommy, can I have this?” and then being told “no baby, put that back.”

Hate to break it to you but mommy has a grocery budget and you can’t have a new toy every time she goes for diapers and bread.

“But, but ... I want it!”

I would agree, but sometimes you do spend. Some times you do go high end instead of cutting corners, or bargain hunting. Free Agency is a necessary tool to improve your team. Everyone talks about how well they draft which is pretty ridiculous since there are absolutely no results to show for it. Why? Because they suck when it's time to help the roster during a vital period every year. The track record screams terrible, yet we paint it like the waiting game will obviously pay off some day. They just don't make smart decisions which is exactly why they're in this same position year after year. But I'm sure this time they get it right? lol

 

[jnday]

People will complain about anything

This is a legit criticism and it has been since Stephen implemented his tight-wad ways.

 

[Robbieac]

The extension opened up more cap space than if we franchised him.

For 2021 you are right. But most high-profile good free agents sign contracts for longer than just 1 year.

So how does having a cap hit of $33 million in 2022, $44 million in 2023, and $47 million in 2024 help us to sign good free agents?

 

[CyberB0b]

For 2021 you are right. But most high-profile good free agents sign contracts for longer than just 1 year.

So how does having a cap hit of $33 million in 2022, $44 million in 2023, and $47 million in 2024 help us to sign good free agents?

Free agents sign long term contracts spread out. They have plenty of means to get more space, through restructures and what not. They've never had a problem with cap space, they're just cheap skates. The other alternative is to save the space, cut Dak, and roll with a scrub like Nick Foles, Andy Dalton, or Fitzpatrick and pray you hit on a draft pick.

 

[JoeKing]

I'll summarize:

4.

That's the number of playoff wins the Cowboys have over the last quarter century. All 25 of those years since their last SB win in 1995, Jerry Jones has had control over all aspects of the football operations - hiring coaches, draft, free agency, scouting, etc.

Now tell me, what GM in this league would survive and keep his job if he built a team that won only 4 playoff games total in 25 years? No rational human being can look at that kind of run over 25 years and say, "Man, that Jerry Jones, hell of a GM run right there.........."

Again, you cherry-pick what you critique. Jerry Jones has owned the Cowboys since 1989 but you only concern yourself with what's happened since 1996. Nevermind he won 3 Super Bowls in the time period you want to dismiss. Your analysis is not fair nor complete. Until you stop cherry-picking the man's performance to just the bad years, it is invalid hogwash.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

I can just see it etched on both of their headstones, "We like our guys".

 

[Sydla]

Again, you cherry-pick what you critique. Jerry Jones has owned the Cowboys since 1989 but you only concern yourself with what's happened since 1996. Nevermind he won 3 Super Bowls in the time period you want to dismiss. Your analysis is not fair nor complete. Until you stop cherry-picking the man's performance to just the bad years, it is invalid hogwash.

The bad years? LOL.

It’s not like we won a SB 4 years ago and just had three bad seasons.

His teams haven’t made a conference championship game appearance in 25 years. Not 3 or 4 or even 7. We are talking about 25 years here, not some small sample.

His teams have four playoff wins TOTAL in 25 years.

LOL. Dude.

Again, would any other GM in football survive a 25 year run with only four playoff wins?

 

[JoeKing]

The bad years? LOL.

It’s not like we won a SB 4 years ago and just had three bad seasons.

His teams haven’t made a conference championship game appearance in 25 years. Not 3 or 4 or even 7. 25 years.

His teams have four playoff wins TOTAL in 25 years.

LOL. Dude.

We should have won it all in 2016. I had it all planned out... Dak gets us to the NFCC game gets hurt and Romo finishes the job. That would have been a great way for Romo to end his career.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Not when it comes to free agency in Dallas.....Thanos. Jerry loves those blue light special free agents

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Look who they are interested in...


The player is either cheap, old, injured or str8 up washed up, nothing has changed...
This organization will never learn.....

Too bad cause there is/was some good players out there who will help some teams win

These are the wages of sin, A $40-million cap sin.

 

[IceStar-D7]

I'll summarize:

4.

That's the number of playoff wins the Cowboys have over the last quarter century. All 25 of those years since their last SB win in 1995, Jerry Jones has had control over all aspects of the football operations - hiring coaches, draft, free agency, scouting, etc.

Now tell me, what GM in this league would survive and keep his job if he built a team that won only 4 playoff games total in 25 years? No rational human being can look at that kind of run over 25 years and say, "Man, that Jerry Jones, hell of a GM run right there.........."

It's sad the Dallas Cowboy fans haven't ran him out of town on a rail. Any other job from McDonalds to President. Jones would be considered a laughable failure.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Nevermind he won 3 Super Bowls in the time period you want to dismiss. Your analysis is not fair nor complete. Until you stop cherry-picking the man's performance to just the bad years, it is invalid hogwash.

Pretty fair to see the 26-year trend as a negative performance though. That's like saying Blockbuster is still a great company because it was great in 2004. Years of consistent failure is a fairly obvious sign.

 

[JoeKing]

Pretty fair to see the 26-year trend as a negative performance though. That's like saying Blockbuster is still a great company because it was great in 2004. Years of consistent failure is a fairly obvious sign.

26 years of failure yet still the owner and GM of the most winningest team in NFL history. 2007 & 2016 we should have won it all but if you want to dismiss those years as a failure, sure, I see what you mean.

 

[fivetwos]

26 years of failure yet still the owner and GM of the most winningest team in NFL history. 2007 & 2016 we should have won it all but if you want to dismiss those years as a failure, sure, I see what you mean.

Should have??

The teams they played in the playoffs SHOULD HAVE laid down for them?

They choked BOTH times as a one seed.

Those years were worse than the losing ones.

And yet again you want to credit this buffoon with what Landry accomplished.

Ridiculous

 

[Blackspider214]

We should have won it all in 2016. I had it all planned out... Dak gets us to the NFCC game gets hurt and Romo finishes the job. That would have been a great way for Romo to end his career.

Lmao. Romo would have gotten broke in half the second any defender got near him. He was washed up damaged goods by then. Only Dallas fans have some romanticized memory of what he really was. A injury prone regular season QB who choked in the playoffs.

 

[Blackspider214]

26 years of failure yet still the owner and GM of the most winningest team in NFL history. 2007 & 2016 we should have won it all but if you want to dismiss those years as a failure, sure, I see what you mean.

Ummmm those years were 100% failures. How were they not? #1 seed both times and both times, lost at home to opponents they dominated in the regular season. Oh but hey, just because you say we should have won, well then, that makes it a success! Riiiiiight.

How can a team who didn't even win a playoff game in those years should have won it all? You act like we had a fluke heartbreaking Super Bowl loss. Both of those years were disasters when it mattered most. Typical Jerry teams as the GM. In the 25 years he has been GM, this team has never been past the divisional round. In a league that begs for parity. Dallas under his GM duties, is nothing more than a junk .500 team.