Looks Like We Have 10 Roster Spots to Fill

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
Messages
62,482
Reaction score
67,294
Jerry will get right on this right after his "Romo project" is completed......however, he may have to extend Romo's contract to have enough time to facilitate a trade at the rate he's going.

I can't help but wonder if that has had an impact on "the plan", whatever on earth it was.
 

JoeKing

Diehard
Messages
36,645
Reaction score
31,939
Come on man. The secondary was the best part of the D last season. Blowing up the best part of your defense doesn't sound like a winning formula.

Now, going into the draft, the secondary because even more of a priority than DL.
:lmao2:Now that was hilarious.

Let's look at the facts and see what that tells us about the validity of your comment about the secondary?

Our defense gave up the 5th least points last season, so someone was doing something right. Can we find some evidence whether it was the D-line or the secondary that more greatly attributed to that ranking? Hell yes we can...
The Cowboys defense was ranked #1 versus the run. That means the secondary was our weak link on the defense. But let's not let the facts get in the way... you have a "winning formula".
 

haleyrules

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,060
Reaction score
42,877
That would ease some anxiety, that is for sure. But I think that idea is just about as dream worthy as thinking we will get a bunch of picks for Tony Romo.
Just need to give myself some hope. Man, what a weird off season. Yeah, l don't see any GM offering too much for Tony.
 

cowboy_ron

You Can't Fix Stupid
Messages
15,361
Reaction score
24,303
I can't help but wonder if that has had an impact on "the plan", whatever on earth it was.
Yea, kind of like he's spent the last 20 plus years trying to prove he's a qualified GM, he's trying to save face on a Romo trade, but he don't realize that the face saving ended a week ago...............let it go Jerry, neglecting the rest of the team while trying to prove you can get a 7th rd pick is a waste of valuable time.
 

Broges74

JerryJonesMustGo
Messages
1,793
Reaction score
1,676
:lmao2:Now that was hilarious.

Let's look at the facts and see what that tells us about the validity of your comment about the secondary?

Our defense gave up the 5th least points last season, so someone was doing something right. Can we find some evidence whether it was the D-line or the secondary that more greatly attributed to that ranking? Hell yes we can...
The Cowboys defense was ranked #1 versus the run. That means the secondary was our weak link on the defense. But let's not let the facts get in the way... you have a "winning formula".
Oh please.. Cherry picking 'facts' is always the best way to get a beat down online. Are you certain you want to go there?

Dallas was 13th in YPR last season. The reason why we were #1 was a matter of possession time by our offense and our offensive scoring per drive.

Weak arguments followed by laughing emojis shows your ignorance.
 

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
Messages
62,482
Reaction score
67,294
Yea, kind of like he's spent the last 20 plus years trying to prove he's a qualified GM, he's trying to save face on a Romo trade, but he don't realize that the face saving ended a week ago...............let it go Jerry, neglecting the rest of the team while trying to prove you can get a 7th rd pick is a waste of valuable time.

Both of the Joneses have been eerily quiet since free agency kicked off.

That could mean one of two things, they have some idea brewing or things haven't gone exactly to plan.
 

JoeKing

Diehard
Messages
36,645
Reaction score
31,939
Oh please.. Cherry picking 'facts' is always the best way to get a beat down online. Are you certain you want to go there?

Dallas was 13th in YPR last season. The reason why we were #1 was a matter of possession time by our offense and our offensive scoring per drive.

Weak arguments followed by laughing emojis shows your ignorance.
WRONG.... the reason a #1 ranked run defense is on a 13th ranked over-all defense is because the secondary sucked that bad. Go find some crayons and go play in the corner.
 

haleyrules

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,060
Reaction score
42,877
WRONG.... the reason a #1 ranked run defense is on a 13th ranked over-all defense is because the secondary sucked that bad. Go find some crayons and go play in the corner.
That could be part of the reason most of the secondary is playing somewhere else! Although, some pressure on the enemy QB's might have helped that secondary.
 

Manwiththeplan

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,268
Reaction score
7,763
Lost or ain't coming back:
Carr, Mo, Wilcox, Church, McClain, Leary, Dunbar, Free, Escobar, Sanchez, Gachkar, Romo, J Crawford.

Gained: Carrol, Moore, Paea

That's 10 spots to fill 7 draft picks and UDFA here we come. This team is getting younger and younger.

Most of those guys will actually be replaced by players that finished the year on IR, or they were on IR themselves.

Romo/Sanchez- Back up QB market is still alive. McCown is still available and we still have Kellen Moore. Really only need to replace one anyway.
Wilcox/Church- Really just need to replace one.
McClain- is replaced by Paea
Leary- is replaced by Cooper.
Dunbar- replaced by McFadden, who missed most of last season
Free- needs to be addressed by
Escobar- replaced by Hanna
Gachkar- replaced by Jaylon Smith
JCrawford- replaced by CTapper
Carr/MO- Carrol replaces McFadden really, so this is high on the list (still behind DE and possibly RT) but we really only need to replace Carr, Mo missed half the season
 

TheCount

Pixel Pusher
Messages
25,523
Reaction score
8,849
I keep seeing this narrative repeated over and over.

Take a look at this list and you tell me what is left that we would A) afford and B) even want.

http://nfltraderumors.co/top-2017-nfl-free-agents-list/

Keep in mind how much we seem to be allergic to veterans as well.

Narrative?

The key qualifier that you just added is "A) afford".

The fact that you can't afford a guy doesn't mean that all that's left on the market is trash that the buzzards are picking at.

There are a number of guys on that list, including Poe – whom I mentioned initially as just being taken off the list, that would be fine additions.
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
You think the team is going to spend any more serious money.
No way.
They are squeezing the money from the cap and hiding it from the fans.

The team claims poverty and good financial planning.
The free agent market is overpriced...

The team is stressing value, but what they mean is profits.
They say long term, but what they mean is hiding profits long term.
Of course, fans would be angry if they see $100 million of cap unused.
How are they going to hide that from the fans?
It is quite simple - in the name of long term stability.

The team has been restructuring about 20-30 million dollars per year.
By systematically turning off the restructuring, you can hide about 50 million profits from the fans.
In fact, they can make their cap space look tight with this mirage in 2018,
in 2019, the savings are so huge (67million) that 32 million still shows.
in 2020, the savings are even large (92 million) that 47 million still shows.
how to hide that, they can change the standard contracting structure - essentially front loading contracts.
the drop in profits in 2021 is from the massive contracts given to resigning the class of 2016 - takes an extra year or 2 for massive cap hit to show up. actually after 2020, the model is not even relevant as there will be a new TV contract.

With the traditional 20 million of restructuring:
2017----- 2018----- 2019----- 2020----- 2021
$ 3.20---$ 28.66---$ 67.91--$ 92.72---$ 72.23

To hide the profits from the fans, with 20 million of restructuring turned off:
2017----- 2018----- 2019----- 2020----- 2021
$ 3.20---$ 8.66-----$ 32.91---$ 47.72--$ 22.23

These calculations have assumed:
1. continue to sign 3 free agents per year - 1 at 2m aav, 1 at 3m aav, 1 at 4m aav
2. resigning own free agents - martin, collins, jones and most of the class of 2016 as good starters or stars, resigning class of 2017 as decent starters (assuming draft results are not as good)

For those who want to question the financial model, I would be happy to email the model to you.
A more detailed report of the model will be posted on BTB.
 

dallasfan4lizife

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,535
Reaction score
4,224
This front office is still rebuilding.

Think about this for a second, we've been rebuilding for nearly a decade. We spent half of Romo's career rebuilding.

This is a just a built in excuse for a horrible front office. They've struck gold on about 6 or 7 draft picks in the last 5-6 years (1 of them being at the most important position in football). The rest have been dog **** from the get go.

EDIT: If it was not for Dak, we would be in absolute purgatory. Re 1998-2005.
 

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
Messages
62,482
Reaction score
67,294
The fact that you can't afford a guy doesn't mean that all that's left on the market is trash that the buzzards are picking at.

What is left that is cheap or desperate enough for this team to get up and bother to sign is awful.

So who on that list, that is still available, would be an upgrade or even status quo?

Right now, what is left are a bunch of bodies. Free agency sailed right on by while we were figuring out what to do.
 

Mr Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,612
Reaction score
32,654
WRONG.... the reason a #1 ranked run defense is on a 13th ranked over-all defense is because the secondary sucked that bad. Go find some crayons and go play in the corner.
No doubt the secondary was bad, but so was the pass rush, and it has been for the past 5 years. But letting the best of a poor defensive back field, without a plan to replace them with better players is not exactly blowing up the bad defense. Spin it however you want, but talent is the main ingredient in building a team, and the little to bad talent we had is gone and replaced by worse talent. You're not going to get 7 walk in starters on defense in the draft.

Jerry and company has always had the problem of not being able to build a complete team, this will be another one of those teams. From having 7 1st round picks on defense, while playing OL who didn't even start on their college team, to having 5 1st round picks on offense with Home Depot day laborers manning the defense. Marrinelli is a great coach, but not a miracle worker.

But for the 5th + year feel good about the Cowboys mantra of "you can't build a defense in one off season!"
 
Top