Recommended Loss Forensics: Romo vs. the League's Top QB

[DallasEast]

Post 621 should be copied-and-pasted into every future thread that's intentionally de-evolved into a Tony Romo bashfest.

 

[slomoxn]

I had to thank jnday. I now know why his logic is so messed up. I mean coming from an 80-90 year old dude, that is what I expected.

The Department of Veterans Affairs estimated that in 2011, 670 American World War II veterans died every day.[4] The median age for a World War II veteran in June 2011 was 92 years.[4]

But, he's still going strong, he has Kid Rock as his fan. lol

WOW bro! Respect to those that have served.... This us just pitiful.

 

[hairic]

My reference to being smarter than this , meant that I should know better than to get involved in a thread like this . It is a waste of time and effort. I have nothing but praise for KJJ for having the patience to continue the debate even though he was outnumbered.

KJJ resorts to a form of argumentum ad tldr. If this forum software supported banning users from individual threads, his first post in this thread should have locked him out.

 

[DanteEXT]

Favre has more yards and TD's than any QB who's ever played the game and there's many QB's including Staubach and Aikman who were better than him. Troy has been voted many times by independent sources as the best QB of the 90's which included Favre. Romo is a poor man's Brett Favre.

Which is why career passing yards is not a good stat to compare QB's with. ypg, ypa, td/int ratio, rating are much better stats to use.

 

[percyhoward]

When was the last time he posted stats that made Romo look bad?

Turnover %, in the OP of this thread.

 

[percyhoward]

You don't see people putting Joe Montana's stats out there.....

Montana had 13 consecutive Top 10 seasons in pass rating, a record which stood for almost 20 years until Manning passed him last year.

 

[Denim Chicken]

That's the reason you're ranking Staubach and Aikman ahead of Romo due to a statistical ranking? LOL Their championships played no part in your decision?

So I'm sure you would put Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Ken Stabler, and Doug Williams all above Romo, right?

 

[ufcrules1]

Turnover %, in the OP of this thread.

So coy. That doesn't work with people who see right through it. The stats you posted on this thread were done to make Romo look good which is typical of you. It'a no big deal, it's good info and appreciated, but let's not pretend they aren't posted to make Romo look good.

Also, as it has been pointed out, there are many things the stats hide that help complete the story. Some of which can be very critical to how good/bad a player is.

 

[jnday]

KJJ resorts to a form of argumentum ad tldr. If this forum software supported banning users from individual threads, his first post in this thread should have locked him out.

The man stood his ground for 40 pages against posters that were emotionally charged up due to the subject matter. I I de retold exactly where he was coming from. If he had argued for a pro-Romo stance , he would be a hero today .

 

[jnday]

So I'm sure you would put Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Ken Stabler, and Doug Williams all above Romo, right?

There is an argument for three of the four.

 

[iceberg]

My reference to being smarter than this , meant that I should know better than to get involved in a thread like this . It is a waste of time and effort. I have nothing but praise for KJJ for having the patience to continue the debate even though he was outnumbered.

Praise or just as "bullheaded"? You're not " smart"when you make up stats to use against a player, you've got an agenda.

Period.

 

[KJJ]

Which is why career passing yards is not a good stat to compare QB's with. ypg, ypa, td/int ratio, rating are much better stats to use.

A QB's TD to turnover ratio correlates to winning more than any other stat in the playoffs.

 

[KJJ]

So I'm sure you would put Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Ken Stabler, and Doug Williams all above Romo, right?

Roethlisberger and Eli are clearly above Romo. Both have a number of playoff appearances and wins and both have a couple of championships with Roethlisberger having led the Steelers to 3 SB's. Eli has a head to head edge over Romo and has beaten him in the playoffs and a season finale elimination game. Both Eli and Roethlisberger have an outside shot at the HOF if they can add a few more playoff wins or another championship. I would rank Stabler ahead of Romo . He won a playoff game in 5 consecutive years from 73 to 77 and led the Raiders to a championship in 1977 during a time when the Steelers were a dynasty and the Cowboys had great teams.

Although Doug Williams won a SB he wasn't close to the QB Romo is. Williams had one lucky year in 87 in which he led Washington to a championship. He didn't even start the season for Washington that year. He had a great performance in the SB and deserves credit but take away that one season and he had a very average career. I choose QB's according to playoff wins and SB's but they have to be consistent. One lucky season isn't going to cut it they have to have a solid "career."

 

[peplaw06]

A QB's TD to turnover ratio correlates to winning more than any other stat in the playoffs.

Prove it.

 

[DFWJC]

Montana had 13 consecutive Top 10 seasons in pass rating, a record which stood for almost 20 years until Manning passed him last year.

LOL

I guess that was solid reply

 

[KJJ]

Prove it.

Haven't you challenged me on this before? I've posted plenty of playoff/SB stats that proves that the QB who has the better TD to turnover ratio their team usually wins during the postseason. Naturally there's going to be a few exceptions to the rule but the last 5 SB winning QB's all had better TD to turnover ratio's than the losing QB. In Romo's 6 elimination game losses the opposing QB had the better TD to turnover ratio in 5 of the Cowboys losses.

 

[iceberg]

Haven't you challenged me on this before? I've posted plenty of playoff/SB stats that proves that the QB who has the better TD to turnover ratio their team usually wins during the postseason. Naturally there's going to be a few exceptions to the rule but the last 5 SB winning QB's all had better TD to turnover ratio's than the losing QB. In Romo's 6 elimination game losses the opposing QB had the better TD to turnover ratio in 5 of the Cowboys losses.

Name any other qb who's had the "elimination game" stat used for them.

Quit making **** up.

 

[KJJ]

Name any other qb who's had the "elimination game" stat used for them.

Quit making **** up.

Name any other QB who's played in more season finale elimination games than Romo since 2008? There's a reason the stat is used for him. By the way I thought you had me on ignore? A couple of weeks ago you said it was back to ignore for me. You say that to everyone. lol

 

[DFWJC]

Name any other qb who's had the "elimination game" stat used for them.

Quit making **** up.

It's comical.

Plus, if we are counting the other team's QB stats, that would have zero to do with our QB and everything to do with our defense.
And, if I'm not mistaken, this started as playoff wins and turnovers but evolved in that moronic elimination game thing.

This concept of football being a team game should not be so confusing to some, but somehow it is.

 

[iceberg]

Name any other QB who's played in more season finale elimination games than Romo since 2008? There's a reason the stat is used for him. By the way I thought you had me on ignore? A couple of weeks ago you said it was back to ignore for me. You say that to everyone. lol

Yes, sometimes I make the mistake of hitting show ignored content.

If you make up a stat to apply to a player that's agenda driven and useless cause you ignore every other universally accepted and applies stat so your made up one "works".

Its ********.