Recommended Loss Forensics: Romo vs. the League's Top QB

[5Stars]

Okay so would you say he played excellent, that was the criteria. He turned the ball over on his own side of the field what do you expect from a bad injured defense?

Right! A bad injured defense. Had Romo had a defense that was not a bad injured defense, he may have not been put into the position to TRY and win the game. He threw the pick, the team lost. Time was running out, what did you expect the team to do? Just go ahead and wave the white flag? Not try and win the game with a minute or so to go?

Logic, dude...try it.

 

[Aurican]

Right! A bad injured defense. Had Romo had a defense that was not a bad injured defense, he may have not been put into the position to TRY and win the game. He threw the pick, the team lost. Time was running out, what did you expect the team to do? Just go ahead and wave the white flag? Not try and win the game with a minute or so to go?

Logic, dude...try it.

I was referring to the first interception when he was ahead the second one I can't say I blame him too much but it was possible to score in that situation. I take it you think he played excellent then?

 

[KJJ]

SPANKED!!!

In your dreams. LOL There's exceptions to every rule just like with the passer rating stat that percy claims correlates to winning more than any other stat. There's many games from last season including games with the Cowboys where the losing QB had a higher passer rating than the winning QB.

 

[gimmesix]

Okay you listed 3, Green Bay is debatable Romo wasn't excellent in that game throwing an interception with 2:58 left in the game from his own 30 yard line while being ahead 36-31. That led to a TD by Green Bay which made the game 37-36. Dallas got the ball back with 1:30 on the clock and Romo was intercepted again to end the game.

But here's where the team game comes in again. 1) Dallas led 29-10 with 6:03 left in the third quarter before the defense collapsed and the play-calling got stupid with four passes attempted out of five plays with 4:17 left and Dallas leading 36-31. 2) On Romo's first interception, he got immediate pressure from Clay Matthews and threw the ball behind Austin (Romo deserves the blame for not throwing it away.) 3) On Romo's second interception, he threw the ball to the sideline but Cole Beasley stopped his route (Beasley admitted he was wrong to make that adjustment from what he was expected to do).

There's just so much that goes into a player being a success and a team having success that placing either the blame or credit on that player is misguided.

 

[5Stars]

I was referring to the first interception when he was ahead the second one I can't say I blame him too much but it was possible to score in that situation. I take it you think he played excellent then?

Then you take it wrong. There is not a player in any team sport that plays excellent.

 

[5Stars]

But here's where the team game comes in again. 1) Dallas led 29-10 with 6:03 left in the third quarter. 2) On Romo's first interception, he got immediate pressure from Clay Matthews and threw the ball behind Austin (Romo deserves the blame for not throwing it away. 3) On Romo's second interception, he threw the ball to the sideline but Cole Beasley stopped his route (Beasley admitted he was wrong to make that adjustment from what he was expected to do).

There's just so much that goes into a player being a success and a team having success that placing either the blame or credit on that player is misguided.

Wow, that sounds like a team that made lots of mistakes to lose those games.

 

[peplaw06]

In your dreams. LOL There's exceptions to every rule just like with the passer rating stat that percy claims correlates to winning more than any other stat. There's many games from last season including games with the Cowboys where the losing QB had a higher passer rating than the winning QB.

In the case of your theory, over the most recent 11 games, it is the exception, not the rule.

 

[WhizKid]

In your dreams. LOL There's exceptions to every rule just like with the passer rating stat that percy claims correlates to winning more than any other stat. There's many games from last season including games with the Cowboys where the losing QB had a higher passer rating than the winning QB.

bruh, link.

 

[KJJ]

bruh, link.

You need a link for that??? LOL You call yourself da_whiz_kid so do some research there's plenty of games last season where the losing QB had a higher passer rating than the winning QB. Romo had a higher passer rating than Peyton Manning and the Cowboys lost. There's not any stat out there where there isn't plenty of exceptions to the rule.

 

[percyhoward]

...the passer rating stat that percy claims correlates to winning more than any other stat.

No way for anybody to verify this, of course.

 

[WhizKid]

You need a link for that??? LOL You call yourself da_whiz_kid so some research there's plenty of games last season where the losing QB had a higher passer rating than the winning QB. Romo had a higher passer rating than Peyton Manning and the Cowboys lost. There's not any stat out there where there isn't plenty of exceptions to the rule.

Your theory not mine. Provide your evidence. Just link it. 2 seconds.

 

[KJJ]

No way for anybody to verify this, of course.

How about posting my full quote? I said "There's exceptions to every rule just like with the passer rating stat that percy claims correlates to winning more than any other stat." You going to disagree there's not plenty of exceptions to that rule?

 

[KJJ]

Your theory not mine. Provide your evidence. Just link it. 2 seconds.

It's not a theory it's a fact there's plenty of games where the winning QB had a lower passer rating than the losing QB.

 

[Aurican]

But here's where the team game comes in again. 1) Dallas led 29-10 with 6:03 left in the third quarter before the defense collapsed and the play-calling got stupid with four passes attempted out of five plays with 4:17 left and Dallas leading 36-31. 2) On Romo's first interception, he got immediate pressure from Clay Matthews and threw the ball behind Austin (Romo deserves the blame for not throwing it away.) 3) On Romo's second interception, he threw the ball to the sideline but Cole Beasley stopped his route (Beasley admitted he was wrong to make that adjustment from what he was expected to do).

There's just so much that goes into a player being a success and a team having success that placing either the blame or credit on that player is misguided.

I agree a 100% that is my problem with the OP

 

[percyhoward]

How about posting my full quote? I said "There's exceptions to every rule just like with the passer rating stat that percy claims correlates to winning more than any other stat." You going to disagree there's not plenty of exceptions to that rule?

You act like these things can't be googled.

There's your full quote, btw.

 

[WhizKid]

It's not a theory it's a fact there's plenty of games where the winning QB had a lower passer rating than the losing QB.

First it's playoff games, then it's 5 sb's, now it's the season.

Link.

You say your argument is the rule for the last 5 Sb's. Percy counters and says lets look at the playoffs. It absolutely blows your little rant to shreds and you counter with, "there are plenty of examples of this during the season" and then don't provide any evidence of it.

Just provide the link to the work you said you did. It's literally the next step in your argument.

I am not arguing with your premise other than it is purely subjective unless proven otherwise. You have not put in the work to show this yet.

If what you are saying is the rule, show everyone it is the rule. That is all. Not disagreeing, but your argument holds no weight without it.

 

[percyhoward]

I agree a 100% that is my problem with the OP

Absolutely the QB doesn't do it alone.

From the OP: "The Dallas pass offense with Romo has been the league's best late in close losses. "

 

[KJJ]

You act like these things can't be googled.

There's your full quote, btw.

I know what can be googled but if you're going to quote me include my entire comment so as not to make it appear I'm agreeing with you.

 

[KJJ]

First it's playoff games, then it's 5 sb's, now it's the season.

I know exactly what I've said but like the other poster you're just looking to stir things up. If you don't like me or my opinions move on. I see where this is going with some of you and I'm not having any of it.

 

[gimmesix]

I agree a 100% that is my problem with the OP

I don't think his data conflicts with the fact that it's a team game and a lot goes into winning and losing. I think his data reflects that by showing that the team should be winning, like other teams are, with the stats that Romo is putting up. The fact that the team isn't means that we should pay closer attention to why it's happening instead of just blaming Romo.

That's not saying he isn't sometimes part of the problem, but most of the time there have been so many other variables that obscured Romo's play that would have been good enough to win with a better defense, better running game and certainly better play-calling at times. Things that teams that usually go far in the playoffs and win Super Bowls get on a regular basis in games where their quarterbacks perform well and sometimes in games where they don't.