Lost all faith in "Goose"

[Yakuza Rich]

Guys:

Listened to "Goose" on ESPN radio, he made the following statements:

"You don't franchise safties and the Cowboys should have franchised their LT(Adams)". Said he was unimpressed with the Cowboys this off season.

He seemed unaware it would cost the Cowboys over $9M to franchise Adams and only $4M something to franchise the safety.

That's the problem I have with a lot of the so called "Football experts". They don't seem to know as much about an individual team as the guys on the Forum.

JR

Goose is notoriously horrendous, especially when it comes to Dallas. But despite being illogical and misinformed, he'll then hide behind "I'm not paid to be a fan by the Cowboys" which isn't the point as he's not paid not to be illogical or misinformed.

Not only does Goose not apparently understand the cap hit numbers if we francished Flo over Hamlin, but apparently he forgets that Dallas can still re-do Hamlin to a long term deal which would eliminate the franchise tag hit.

Of course what do you expect from a writer who claimed earlier this year that Romo wasn't a franchise QB because he hasn't started in a Pro Bowl or a Super Bowl, yet Carson Palmer was a franchise QB. And this is the same writer who also stated that basically he picks the home team to win each week.

His work on the draft is his saving grace, which is probably due to having great sources, because if he couldn't do the draft very well he'd easily be one of the worst sports writers I've ever read.

Which would make him about the 3rd football writer in the Dallas area. :bang2:




YAKUZA

 

[jazzcat22]

Goose is right on the money about this one. the cowboys have done nothing this offseason.sometimes the truth hurts. and getting mad about it wont change the facts.

Goose is a straight shooter, and your right. Fans will get mad if they don't foolow the "home" team. The part I disagree with is, why is he unimpressed, because we made no BIG WOW player splashes.

I am impressed that we didn't make any splashes. Perhaps because we don't need to. But sometimes Goose will make statements, we wonder where he is coming from, but find out he is usually right. But to make this statement is off the wall a bit.

Still got to love his draft coverage and mocks.

 

[cowboyrock]

I've said it for years...he does a good job with NFL draft stuff, but he is an absolutely atrocious NFL writer

David

Question? How many playoff games have we won by keeping our own players?this idea that Jerry is doing the right thing by just keeping our players is just silly. newsflash.Flozell adams is not that good folks. the 13 pro-bowlers stuff does not work either. is there anyone who really believes Roy williams was a pro bowler this year? get real people.

 

[dbair1967]

Question? How many playoff games have we won by keeping our own players?this idea that Jerry is doing the right thing by just keeping our players is just silly. newsflash.Flozell adams is not that good folks. the 13 pro-bowlers stuff does not work either. is there anyone who really believes Roy williams was a pro bowler this year? get real people.

you wont find anyone who agrees with your assesment of Adams...the guy blocks the heck out of pass rushing RDE's

as for Williams, he definitely didnt deserve to go, but other than him they all pretty much deserved it...it wasnt an accident that this team won 13 games...you dont get better by letting excellent core players like Adams, Barber and Canty go, and Hamlin played the best all around FS we've had in several seasons

its unfortunate Romo and Owens got hurt at the wrong times, otherwise we'd have at the least advanced to the super bowl IMO

David

 

[CATCH17]

Roy Williams = 3-4 OLB

Roy Williams = 1 more year in Dallas

 

[theogt]

Roy Williams = 1 more year in Dallas

This thread is about Goose's stupidity. Please don't derail it.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Goose seems to believe he is a expert sometimes.

 

[cowboyrock]

This thread is about Goose's stupidity. Please don't derail it.

You may hate Goose and he may be terrible. but the guy is right on the money about this. for all who are posting here saying we should just stand pat because we won 13 games. i want to see you back here next year when we lose in the playoffs again. this team still has many needs. dont fool yourself people.

 

[theogt]

You may hate Goose and he may be terrible. but the guy is right on the money about this. for all who are posting here saying we should just stand pat because we won 13 games. i want to see you back here next year when we lose in the playoffs again. this team still has many needs. dont fool yourself people.

Did you even read the OP? The point of the thread was that Goose said it was stupid to franchise Hamlin instead of Flozell. There was nothing about not signing a bunch of free agents or "standing pat," etc.

 

[sago1]

Agree that Goss is always more critical of the Cowboys then other teams. Have noticed his draft grades are constantly lower then just about anybody else. Like most of us, I though we'd franchise Flozel but also realized it would limit our FA activity. The reason we ended up franchising Hamlin makes good sense to me. I just don't see how we could have done much in FA given the outlandish sums which are being paid out this year.

We wanted Javon Walker if he's healthy and comes cheap but sure don't blame the guy for taking the Raiders' offer; it sets him up for life cause he'll be 30 & likely this his last big money contract. I haven't seen any player I would have wanted at the price they got.

 

[Dallas]

Goose is right on the money about this one. the cowboys have done nothing this offseason.sometimes the truth hurts. and getting mad about it wont change the facts.

Where did you go? We are ripping into this post by you. Please come back and debate how terrible Dallas has been this offseason.

Dont leave Margarette. :laugh2:

 

[zrinkill]

You may hate Goose and he may be terrible. but the guy is right on the money about this. for all who are posting here saying we should just stand pat because we won 13 games. i want to see you back here next year when we lose in the playoffs again. this team still has many needs. dont fool yourself people.

What FA did you want Jerry to overpay for?

Please answer that or shut up.

 

[Rockytop6]

Guys:

Listened to "Goose" on ESPN radio, he made the following statements:

"You don't franchise safties and the Cowboys should have franchised their LT(Adams)". Said he was unimpressed with the Cowboys this off season.

He seemed unaware it would cost the Cowboys over $9M to franchise Adams and only $4M something to franchise the safety.

That's the problem I have with a lot of the so called "Football experts". They don't seem to know as much about an individual team as the guys on the Forum.

JR

I haven't lost faith in Goose. You can't lose what you don't have. Tell me ONE article where Goose gave an intelligent opinion? Just because he gathers info about the draft a few days before the draft from his sources doesn't mean he is an expert football guy. He is good at repeating what he hears. He isn't good when he has to give a football opinion.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Goose couldn't be more wrong about this. Flo would have cost a lot more to franchise and we probably would have lost Hamlin. I can't see how Goose could make this statement, especially after we have already re-signed Flo and still have the rights to Hamlin. It looks to me like it turned out pretty good.

How can you say the Cowboys have done nothing this offseason? Did you miss the fact that we re-signed a 4 time pro bowl left tackle that is responsible for your 67 million dollar franchise quarterback's blindside.

Did you miss the fact that we franchised a pro bowl safety (Hamlin) that insures we have him next year, while we work out a long term extension?

We also tendered another pro bowl player with a 1st and 3rd round tender that assures us that we can keep MB3 while we work out a long term extension with him also.

Chris Canty was also tendered with a 1st round tender that keeps him in Dallas.

On top of all of the above, we signed a 7 time pro bowler in Zach Thomas to a multi year deal. I know he is coming back from an injury, but if he doesn't work out, it going to be a low cost 1 year deal.

The facts are, we haven't lost any of our pro bowlers and have not overpaid for over hyped players on the FA market. Jerry could be grossly overpaying players like the Raiders are doing this year and like the Commanders usually do. (If he were to do this, it would make it harder to re-sign Newman and Ware in the coming years, IMO.) But he is doing exactly what he should be doing. He's waiting for the FA market to settle and pick up a good player, like Hamlin last year, at a bargain price.

It looks like a pretty good offseason to me.

Goose is a ******, I dont even pay attention to his dribble anymore.

If is very apparent that he does not understand the complexities of the salary cap, most on this board are more knowledgeable than Goose.

:bang2:

 

[Beast_from_East]

Question? How many playoff games have we won by keeping our own players?this idea that Jerry is doing the right thing by just keeping our players is just silly. newsflash.Flozell adams is not that good folks. the 13 pro-bowlers stuff does not work either. is there anyone who really believes Roy williams was a pro bowler this year? get real people.

Get real?

Who exactly were we supposed to go sign that would make you happy?

Javon Walker and his jacked up knee, you wanted to pay Bernard Berrin TO type money, You wanted to get Samuel for a small fortune to be our #3, you wanted to give Drayton Florence starter money, you wanted to pay JuJo $3 per year, you wanted to pay Reeves $20 mill, you wanted to pay Michal Turner $37 mill?

What exactly do you expect that meets your approval if our own guys are not good enough for you?

Keep in mind when you answer that we have under $4 mill currently, little something called a salary cap that most in the media are clueless about. Kinda like when you hear trade Roy and Carpenter, most fail to realize that Roy is $7 mill cap hit and Carp is $4.5 cap hit. Analyst dont think about those things.

 

[jobberone]

my only complaint is that we didn't get more for Ferguson, I was hoping for at least a 5th.....

but at least we got something....the top pick in the 6th round this year and a 6th next year.....so my complaint is minimal.

I am not upset that Thomas was our only FA signing. I would have hoped for someone in the secondary, but the prices were outrageous for what you get in return.

I would like to trade Ayodele for possibly a 4th. I know he won't be happy to sit behind Thomas and James. I would rather accomadate him with a trade, than have his sour grapes in the lockerroom.

.....snip

We aren't going to get anything for Akin IMO. If Fergy only brought two sixes then Akin is bringing zip.

I was upset about Fergy, too. I was upset over letting him go period. He is a force inside. I guess they think Tank and Ratliff are at least a wash. That's the positive of it but I still don't trust Tank yet. I actually think he'll do well and I suspect we will even get more out of them than Ratliff/Fergy. But I'm wrong about speculation a lot as are most people. Two sixes were actually more than we probably should have gotten for him in reality.

 

[big dog cowboy]

"You don't franchise safties and the Cowboys should have franchised their LT(Adams)". Said he was unimpressed with the Cowboys this off season.

He seemed unaware it would cost the Cowboys over $9M to franchise Adams and only $4M something to franchise the safety.

Meh. He is wrong again. So what.

 

[Hostile]

Guys:

Listened to "Goose" on ESPN radio, he made the following statements:

"You don't franchise safties and the Cowboys should have franchised their LT(Adams)". Said he was unimpressed with the Cowboys this off season.

He seemed unaware it would cost the Cowboys over $9M to franchise Adams and only $4M something to franchise the safety.

That's the problem I have with a lot of the so called "Football experts". They don't seem to know as much about an individual team as the guys on the Forum.

JR

There's no seeming to know about it. There are very few journalists who really love the team enough to put the time into it to know these types of ins and outs. They may know the roster, they may read a story and think they can do it better than the other author, but by and large they are not plugged into the team.

 

[Hostile]

You may hate Goose and he may be terrible. but the guy is right on the money about this. for all who are posting here saying we should just stand pat because we won 13 games. i want to see you back here next year when we lose in the playoffs again. this team still has many needs. dont fool yourself people.

So let's see, if we had franchised Flozell he would have made more this year than he will make for the restructured new deal we did give him. You see that as a good thing?

If we had not franchised Ken Hamlin we could have lost him via Free Agency. You see that as a good thing?

Seriously?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Is the off-season over?! Geez, I missed it I guess.

Why can't people just be patient and wait until the off-season is completed before they judge it's apparent failure or success? Why is that so hard?

I understand discussing the moves, (or lack thereof), made so far by the Cowboys and other teams, but to judge it as a failure when it's just starting makes no sense whatsoever.