RELEASED Lucky Whitehead Cut **merged**

[Stash]

The 'same crap we've experienced for years while the team keeps getting better as measured by winning more of their games,' you mean. I don't need to spin. I have the luxury of being right in this case.

Selective record selection, no doubt.

Which is probably why people seem to be agreeing with me and mostly ignoring you.

I don't check again, and if you can bear it, look outside Cowboys Central and see what's the real world thinks. You might learn something.

In any event, knock yourself out with your interesting "Lucky doesn't belong on the team but shouldn't have been cut" position here. I can tell we've reached the end of the fruitful part of the conversation on this topic.

I've said everything I've needed to say. And not one of the facts about this mess that I have stated has been refuted.

The truth hurts.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Show me where I've said that. I haven't.

What I have said is that the cut ultimately resulted from information proven to be false. And that's the truth of it. Anything else is attempted spin to help the team look less stupid.



Have at it, I welcome the discussion.



The "fake straw"? The one based on something the guy didn't actually do?

Again, by all means, make the case.

You are fixating on the outcome of the case and doing a lot of handwaving. It is what it is.

Ultimately, I see this as more of an issue of trust than an issue about the incident. When it was still up in the air it is pretty obvious that the team did not believe what Lucky was stating. That he ended up being right with this particular incident misses the point.

I suppose that in all of the missed meetings, flights, stolen dogs and whatever else we do not know about they may have good reason to not trust him. If they do not trust him then they should not keep him around.

 

[Beats_By_Zeke]

This is all TMZ fault.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Selective record selection, no doubt.



I don't check again, and if you can bear it, look outside Cowboys Central and see what's the real world thinks. You might learn something.



I've said everything I've needed to say. And not one of the facts about this mess that I have stated has been refuted.

The truth hurts.

Wins and losses is a pretty standard method of evaluation. Winning should be the #1 goal for an NFL franchise in my book.

 

[Stash]

You are fixating on the outcome of the case and doing a lot of handwaving. It is what it is.

A glaring screwup based on false information? Yes, it is what it is.

Ultimately, I see this as more of an issue of trust than an issue about the incident. When it was still up in the air it is pretty obvious that the team did not believe what Lucky was stating. That he ended up being right with this particular incident misses the point.

No, it's precisely the point.

I suppose that in all of the missed meetings, flights, stolen dogs and whatever else we do not know about they may have good reason to not trust him. If they do not trust him then they should not keep him around.

That's fine and I wouldn't blame them for that. But that's not what happened. They cut the guy under false information. That's the one true point.

And the one that nobody is going to wiggle off the hook about.

Again, not that they did it, but how they did it. Screwing up and basing a decision off of false information. No way around that.

 

[Alexander]

Blood is in the water, kids.

 

[Stash]

Wins and losses is a pretty standard method of evaluation. Winning should be the #1 goal for an NFL franchise in my book.

What years are we allowed to talk about?

And are "wins and losses" standard in 2915 too or is that different?

I'm betting there are qualifiers.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You are fixating on the outcome of the case and doing a lot of handwaving. It is what it is.

Ultimately, I see this as more of an issue of trust than an issue about the incident. When it was still up in the air it is pretty obvious that the team did not believe what Lucky was stating. That he ended up being right with this particular incident misses the point.

I suppose that in all of the missed meetings, flights, stolen dogs and whatever else we do not know about they may have good reason to not trust him. If they do not trust him then they should not keep him around.

It's like the boy that cried Wolf. You keep lying and goofing off and the one time you tell the truth nobody will believe you..

 

[Alexander]

This is all TMZ fault.

I am usually one of the last to club someone over the head with the "evil media" narrative, but in this case they kind of are the culpable party that nobody is talking about.

If they don't blast out a story that is a month old, based on bad information this probably does not happen.

 

[Idgit]

Blood is in the water, kids.

Lol. That's pretty great.

As for your blood in the water hot take...nobody will be talking about it in a week, and by week one, we'll all be in agreement that Lucky didn't belong on this roster anyway. The only difference is some people will hold onto the position that even though he shouldn't be on the final roster, he should have been cut at a different point. To which the rest of us will collectively say 'oh, who gives a ****?'

 

[Alexander]

As for your blood in the water hot take...nobody will be talking about it in a week, and by week one, we'll all be in agreement that Lucky didn't belong on this roster anyway.

You are probably right, in a week nobody will be talking about it.

It will undoubtedly get replaced by yet another dramatic interlude in the on-going circus and soap opera that follows this team around.

 

[Idgit]

It's like the boy that cried Wolf. You keep lying and goofing off and the one time you tell the truth nobody will believe you..

Yep. I don't know how much lying Lucky actually did, if any. But if you travel with a circus, you can't be too shocked when the bosses look at you when they hear circus music playing.

Either way, he's cut now, rather than getting cut in a few weeks. The distraction is over, and the debate about his wrongful termination is a tempest in a teapot. I care a lot more about how the team looks at this point than I do about the unfortunate escapades of Lucky Whitehead.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What years are we allowed to talk about?

And are "wins and losses" standard in 2915 too or is that different?

I'm betting there are qualifiers.

I think that over the Garrett era is a fair standard given the nature of programs and player development.

 

[Idgit]

You are probably right, in a week nobody will be talking about it.

It will undoubtedly get replaced by yet another dramatic interlude in the on-going circus and soap opera that follows this team around.

Welcome to being a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.

A few years ago, we were losing our lunches because we were sure Houston Nutt was being hired. 2015 it was the Dez Bryant video. Was it just last year we were freaking about Dez' cleaning deposit?

This team is a traveling circus. Letting go a bottom-roster WR over an accumulation of minor issues and a case of mistaken identity doesn't even register as a blip.

 

[Idgit]

I think that over the Garrett era is a fair standard given the nature of programs and player development.

Yep. I think there's a trend if you look closely.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A glaring screwup based on false information? Yes, it is what it is.



No, it's precisely the point.



That's fine and I wouldn't blame them for that. But that's not what happened. They cut the guy under false information. That's the one true point.

And the one that nobody is going to wiggle off the hook about.

Again, not that they did it, but how they did it. Screwing up and basing a decision off of false information. No way around that.

The Cowboys did not issue the warrant. Some municipality in VA did. Should the Cowboys have waited and seen? Maybe but that is again besides the point. Ultimately the Cowboys when asking him what happened found they did not trust him.

Should they have trusted him? I don't know but your narrative seems to miss the point.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Welcome to being a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.

A few years ago, we were losing our lunches because we were sure Houston Nutt. 2015 it was the Dez Bryant video. Was it just last year we were freaking about Dez' cleaning deposit?

This team is a traveling circus. Letting go a bottom-roster WR over an accumulation of minor issues and a case of mistaken identity doesn't even register as a blip.

This goes back decades. The Cowboys have always been a media sensation. The difference now is the internet and 24 hour sports channels.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am usually one of the last to club someone over the head with the "evil media" narrative, but in this case they kind of are the culpable party that nobody is talking about.

If they don't blast out a story that is a month old, based on bad information this probably does not happen.

Was it that long ago that TMZ, National Enquirer, and the like were not credible sources?

 

[Stash]

The Cowboys did not issue the warrant. Some municipality in VA did. Should the Cowboys have waited and seen? Maybe but that is again besides the point. Ultimately the Cowboys when asking him what happened found they did not trust him.

Should they have trusted him? I don't know but your narrative seems to miss the point.

No, your "narrative" misses the point.

That the Cowboys made a decision made on false information and a player paid the price for their screwup.

 

[Alexander]