RELEASED Lucky Whitehead Cut **merged**

[Stash]

This is really funny, the FWST just posted a basically verbatim transcript of Jason Garrett being asked a dozen stupid questions about this over and over again.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article163542098.html

Looks to me - and most of the outside world - that it was the answers and not the questions that look "stupid".

 

[Stash]

Your argument has devolved into pure ad hominem and ridicule. Perhaps you should consider how that makes you look, holmes.

There was a valid arrest warrant out for Lucky and when asked for explanation the team found they did not trust what he was saying based on multiple past incidents.

Sure it looks bad to the knee jerk reaction but overall I don't think it is stupid or unfounded.

The move was what was "kneejerk" and "unfounded".

Keep looking bad trying to defend it, just like Garrett did.

 

[Stash]

It was definitely a PR hiccup. But that's the only place it hurts us. I really thought Lucky was going to be better, however hes not and I was wrong. No harm on the football field for this decision.

Never claimed that was the case. Nor that the guy didn't deserve to get cut.

Only that he didn't deserve to get cut based on false information.

And he didn't. No matter what any of the forum spin doctors might try to say.

 

[Kaiser]

A warrant based on having zero proof of ID other than some guy's word for it?

The warrant was issued on the suspect providing his full name, birth date and social security number. All of those corresponded to the same person. It was identity theft and later corrected, but blaming the FO for accepting something out of the national law enforcement databases is complaining for the sake of complaining. \

Lucky could have been cut five minutes after we drafted Switzer and the effect on the franchise would be exactly the same.

 

[Cmac]

....Now an innocent man is thrown to the wolves.....not a good look for JG & Organization, if jail breaks and mayhem is occurring without punitive action. Doesn't look good for Cowboy internal jurisprudence. Lucky should lose his spot from performance, not mistakes from others. If there's a Personal Conduct Policy.....what about a "Told ya, It wasn't me" Policy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I see .558.

Enough for some people to crow about I guess.

But not everyone has high standards.

And a few minutes ago, wins and losses was the standard.

Anyone else see how that changes?

Now look at the records for the NFL over its history. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/

That was Idj's standard and he was looking at the progression of yearly records. If you believe that 2015 was an aberration due to the availability of Romo, Dez, and Murray then it is a very compelling standard IMO.

Personally, I evaluate based on a team's ability to draft and develop talent. Outside of Gregory and Escobar they have been money.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The move was what was "kneejerk" and "unfounded".

Keep looking bad trying to defend it, just like Garrett did.

You saw that the warrant was based on identity theft and knee jerked. In isolation it looks bad.

When you consider the car accident, the dog theft, missed meetings and flights, and several snapchat snafus and I can understand why they decided to move on regardless of how it turned out.

Garrett did not defend it. He avoided it. Your repeating this ridicule despite this same rebuttal is pretty dishonorable, holmes.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Never claimed that was the case. Nor that the guy didn't deserve to get cut.

Only that he didn't deserve to get cut based on false information.

And he didn't. No matter what any of the forum spin doctors might try to say.

You really think that the warrant was the only thing they considered when they cut him?

 

[Stash]

Now look at the records for the NFL over its history. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/

That was Idj's standard and he was looking at the progression of yearly records. If you believe that 2015 was an aberration due to the availability of Romo, Dez, and Murray then it is a very compelling standard IMO.

Personally, I evaluate based on a team's ability to draft and develop talent. Outside of Gregory and Escobar they have been money.

10 minutes ago, it was "wins and losses".

You don't even see it, do you?

 

[DK30]

This is really funny, the FWST just posted a basically verbatim transcript of Jason Garrett being asked a dozen stupid questions about this over and over again.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article163542098.html

Jason Garrett is a Grade A clown. Pathetic.

 

[Stash]

You saw that the warrant was based on identity theft and knee jerked. In isolation it looks bad.

When you consider the car accident, the dog theft, missed meetings and flights, and several snapchat snafus and I can understand why they decided to move on regardless of how it turned out.

Garrett did not defend it. He avoided it. Your repeating this ridicule despite this same rebuttal is pretty dishonorable, holmes.

I'm comfortable with the side of the argument I'm standing on.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

You saw that the warrant was based on identity theft and knee jerked. In isolation it looks bad.

When you consider the car accident, the dog theft, missed meetings and flights, and several snapchat snafus and I can understand why they decided to move on regardless of how it turned out.

Garrett did not defend it. He avoided it. Your repeating this ridicule despite this same rebuttal is pretty dishonorable, holmes.

Do you have any concept of how utterly ridiculous this sounds considering the rap sheets of some of the guys still on our roster?

 

[Stash]

You really think that the warrant was the only thing they considered when they cut him?

At that point? It absolutely was. Nothing else was enough for him to not remain on the team and not fly out to Oxnard and not get on the field.

The "last straw" wasn't true.

But keep spinning.

 

[Kaiser]

Do you have any concept of how utterly ridiculous this sounds considering the rap sheets of some of the guys still on our roster?

You mean the ones who can play?

Here is a handy reference guide:

20 year old All Pro RB with a big guaranteed contract = Long Leash, Lots of Patience

Fumble prone KR who hasn't learned to play WR after a year in the league = Short Leash.

 

[Kaiser]

At that point? It absolutely was. Nothing else was enough for him to not remain on the team and not fly out to Oxnard and not get on the field.

The "last straw" wasn't true.
.

Not according to most of the beat reporters who are around the team all the time.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

You mean the ones who can play?

Here is a handy reference guide:

20 year old All Pro RB with a big guaranteed contract = Long Leash, Lots of Patience

Fumble prone KR who hasn't learned to play WR after a year in the league = Short Leash.

Exactly. So let's stop reading off his laundry list of non-crimes and pretending like there's any real merit to his release other than the fact that Garrett wanted to flex his muscles on a talent he felt was expendable.

You can get away with whatever you want if you're a starter. That's the lesson learned here.

 

[Big D]

You mean the ones who can play?

Here is a handy reference guide:

20 year old All Pro RB with a big guaranteed contract = Long Leash, Lots of Patience

Fumble prone KR who hasn't learned to play WR after a year in the league = Short Leash.

Bingo it's not like we're cutting Deion Sanders in his prime here

 

[Tabascocat]

I called Lucky a moron yesterday and said he should be cut immediately. Well, that is what occurred and some things changed shortly after. Garrett(Dallas) made the right call to cut him of what info was out there. This was not a rumor from media sources out there, it was an actual, legal warrant. Blame the police, not the Dallas Cowboys or TMZ.

Less than 24 hours later, things reversed. With that said, in no way should Dallas ask Whitehead back just to save some face. Things could have been handled better today, maybe something like "We, as an organization, are sorry of what happened to Lucky Whitehead and these unfortunate circumstances. However, this was not an isolated incident with him and he was already on thin ice as a player. We felt it necessary to move on from him and this last incident had minimal bearing on that decision. We wish him well in future endeavors."

 

[LocimusPrime]

Bingo it's not like we're cutting Deion Sanders in his prime here

You called? Prime reporting for duty

 

[erod]

....Now an innocent man is thrown to the wolves.....not a good look for JG & Organization, if jail breaks and mayhem is occurring without punitive action. Doesn't look good for Cowboy internal jurisprudence. Lucky should lose his spot from performance, not mistakes from others. If there's a Personal Conduct Policy.....what about a "Told ya, It wasn't me" Policy.

Lucky committed a thousand sins before this.