Luepke > Vaughn

[VaqueroTD]

If nothing else, just give Luepke more shots in the red zone to see if he can be consistent in that role. Do it Tampa Bay style when they had the smaller Warrick Dunn get yards in the middle of the field and turned it over to big Mike Alstott to fight for the rest.

 

[sbark]

I think you're missing what Mike McCarthy 's doing during all these blowouts he's putting deuce Vaughn as a regular running back not putting any special plays in and this is what he wants the rest of the league to see one of these days it's gonna automatically you're gonna see deuce bond being used properly he's going to have some plays that are actually gonna be successful and how can it be a bad selection at what 6th rounder or what are you kidding me Oh yeah the total waste man we get so many great players in that slot I mean I don't even know what to do... But I promise you he's toying using these games because we're up so much as scrimmages he's messing with plays using guys at a place just trying to show his hand and then when it comes to a game where they put deuce fawn in and then teams think that's what's coming something else is about to come from the other hand I think deuce bond can be used like kevonte Turpin and he's not being and there's a reason for it and it's gonna happen down the road.. We didn't need a thread that said that you think that hunter is better than Vaughn because it really doesn't matter we're going to find out after 17 games that they're all Dallas Cowboys with stars on their helmet and I don't care where they were picked or how much they were used but I want to talk about it after the season....

Yes right now hunter might look like a better choice but dude that can change in a heartbeat and I'm excited to see them all succeed in some way or another... In other words you're overreacting just like the other threads about mazzy and the other rookies were four games in and you think your eyes are seeing one thing and I think Mike McCarthy 's doing this on purpose that's the feeling I'm getting watching what he's doing and all these blowouts I'm seeing him bringing and running plays with guys I don't think they're gonna be running those plays when they get serious there's wrinkles coming off every one of those formations with those packages of players and it's gonna be completely different than what you just saw...

A good coach will put both of them in position to succeed while being conscious of the depth chart. It’s a process.

 

[sbark]

If nothing else, just give Luepke more shots in the red zone to see if he can be consistent in that role. Do it Tampa Bay style when they had the smaller Warrick Dunn get yards in the middle of the field and turned it over to big Mike Alstott to fight for the rest.

Establishing a short yardage actual threat, moves defenders into the box, leaving play action open to others

 

[blueblood70]

A good coach will put both of them in position to succeed while being conscious of the depth chart. It’s a process.

A good coach will also allow other teams to have film using them the wrong way so that way later on they come back with the same formation the same players and all of a sudden you see something completely opposite that is what good coaches do they used this 108 to 13 lopsided net scoring metric to their advantage because they've been throwing out plays like they've been in scrimmages not real games but they get to play against real live players using formations and using player packages NA all what you're gonna see when it's really really used when they want it to succeed they're playing with the eyes of a lot of defensive coordinators late in these games like the entire second-half we've been up by so much they've been these are glorified practices they're literally bringing guys normally wouldn't get much playing time and they ain't being brought in to show plays that they're gonna show later on...

If you guys haven't noticed that you haven't been watching he's playing with these packages in these players has scrimmages against these teams to get this on film because that's not how he's gonna use them down the road that to me is a fact unless my eyes are broke this is what Mike McCarthy's been doing he's been playing with certain packages certain formations certain players and then he's going to end up using them in a different way with the same formations the same players but a whole different play is going to be ran out of it... In my opinion do spawn given he's so much like kevonte Turpin in my opinion is going to be used like that down the road but right now they're not showing those plays for good reason use Vaughan like he's Tony Pollard and they're doing it on purpose again they're putting this on film and they're going to give the okie doke later...

 

[buybuydandavis]

Vaughn damn near killed Dak and only averaged two yards a carry.

Luepke is a beast and can give opposing defenses pause on the goaline. He mans up and can keep Dak clean..

I never liked the Vaughn selection and it looks like a failure. Practice squad at best.

IMO, Deuce needs to and can be developed as a receiver. Until then, and w/o returns, he just doesn't make sense to be on the roster.

I was surprised Deuce made the roster. I think it was just because RoJo was a NoGo. They skimped out too much at RB. Should have brought in veteran competition for Rojo.

Luepke was the guy who made the most sense for the roster. Fills a needed role that is hard to fill. Dowdle and Davis are generic PS level players, though Dowdle has pushed hard in the snaps he's gotten to rise above his talent level.

 

[GMO415]

I wouldn't draw any conclusions based on what we've seen so far. Vaughn has mostly been in the game when we've had a big lead and the defense expects us to try to run the ball. He's also been in when some of our best linemen have been on the sidelines because it's a blowout. Circumstances always play a role.

I believe one of the few times he's gotten the ball in a competitive game (before the late third of fourth quarter with the team having an insurmountable lead), he had a 13-yard run followed by a 11-yard screen pass. That was against the Jets, so I could be wrong about it being competitive at the time, but I do believe it came with the entire offense still out there and when we weren't just trying to run out the clock.

The Jets game they made a horrible mistake and put Vaughn in the second possession. Complete failure. There wasn't a "big lead" in the second possession.

 

[plasticman]

There is a place for Deuce's skill set but I wonder if it's worth an active roster spot.

I hope Deuce has a really good game soon because I just can't help but root for him. However, the bottom line is putting the best players possible in the game to win.

 

[Captain-Crash]

they could run him to the left, and dak could hit him with a pass dak is usually low on passes to the left so it would be a perfect pass.
He would be out in space and could use his size.

 

[DC Cowboy]

Vaughn damn near killed Dak and only averaged two yards a carry.

Luepke is a beast and can give opposing defenses pause on the goaline. He mans up and can keep Dak clean..

I never liked the Vaughn selection and it looks like a failure. Practice squad at best.

i disagree with practice squad BUT Luepke would be RB2 for me. Thunder and Lightening

 

[Established1971]

Vaugh looked very good on one series vs the Jets (very good) defense.

 

[GMO415]

There is a place for Deuce's skill set but I wonder if it's worth an active roster spot.

I hope Deuce has a really good game soon because I just can't help but root for him. However, the bottom line is putting the best players possible in the game to win.

He's a gadget player. He shouldn't be on the 53.

 

[gimmesix]

The Jets game they made a horrible mistake and put Vaughn in the second possession. Complete failure. There wasn't a "big lead" in the second possession.

In the Jets game, Vaughn averaged 5.3 per carry and caught 3 passes for 16 yards. I think you need to pick a different example. Yes, most of those yards came on two plays, but that's often how it is for backs. For example, Pollard averaged 5 yards per carry against the Giants, but take away a 25-yard run and he rushed for 45 yards on 13 carries (3.4). Of if you want to use the Patriots game, Pollard averaged 4.3, but take away a 16-yard carry and it's 2.8.

 

[HappyOnions]

Seems like Deuce only gets carries when the game is out of reach for the other team.

 

[Davidlee1973]

It’s not looking good for Vaughn, he’s very limited as to what he can do. He can’t block and isn’t very effective running between the tackles. Dowdle could be out for a while, and Vaughn isn’t even being mentioned to replace him. We’re hearing Luepke and Malik Davis. So far Vaughn has been a wasted roster spot. He’s had 17 carries for only 33 yards, averaging 1.1.

No **** he can’t block. The guy is literally 5’4. Idk whoever thought the midget belonged on an nfl roster needs to be fired.

 

[KJJ]

No **** he can’t block. The guy is literally 5’4. Idk whoever thought the midget belonged on an nfl roster needs to be fired.

I’m not upset that he’s on the roster, but he does have limitations due to his size. He’s not a blocker, and he’s not going do well running between the tackles. He has to be used a certain way to be effective, and we’re not doing that. We have to find ways to get him out in space so he has some room to maneuver, and that would be in the passing game. He’s not going to succeed using him the way we have so far.

 

[Gremell12]

been saying give me fournette for 5 touches a game. He’ll come.