LVE's ceiling = Dan Connor, Cam Lawrence, Andrew Gachkar

[BourbonBalz]

Thanks, knew he was from Michigan, and thought he was a DT after I posted that.
But still Landry and Schramm and Brandt had their screw ups. Billy Cannon Jr was another.

Cannon didn't play because of an injury.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I just don't trust it. He played against lower talent at boise state. 1 year starter and relied on his athleticism to be able to cut off angles and make tackles. Still struggled to get off blocks despite size. Might be great one day, but no thanks. Rashaan Evans is a better player.

Ware played at Troy. Romo played at Eastern Illinois. Too Tall Jones played at Tenn. St. I could go on and on. Eric Williams. Leon Lett. Larry Allen. Walter Payton. Jerry Rice. There are literally a thousand examples of great players that played against "lesser competition".

 

[DoctorChicken]

Haha! Cut him some slack. After all, he is a millennial.

Um excuse me? So am I and I’ve only taken 17 selfies this week.

Lay off the hate.

 

[Fletch]

Um excuse me? So am I and I’ve only taken 17 selfies this week.

Lay off the hate.

 

[speedkilz88]

Keuchly was drafted very high. Top 5 or so.

Kuechly was 9th the year the Cowboys traded up from 14 to 6 and drafted Claiborne.

 

[millennial_legend]

Kuechly was 9th the year the Cowboys traded up from 14 to 6 and drafted Claiborne.

And nobody would have been upset by now if we had had Kuechly instead.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Thanks, knew he was from Michigan, and thought he was a DT after I posted that.
But still Landry and Schramm and Brandt had their screw ups. Billy Cannon Jr was another.

Cannon, if I remember correctly got hurt almost right at the beginning of his career, Remember Robert Shaw, a C from Tennessee and a 1st round pic?, I think he blew a knee out and never played much after that

 

[Hennessy_King]

Talent > Competition.

We learned this with Carson Wentz. Your opponents talent means nothing.

Vander Esch destroyed Oregon too.

Yeh we learned his team doesn't need him to win a SB that's what I learned about Wentz. Wentz dominated lesser competition. LVE didn't dominate.

 

[cowboyec]

my preference are the bama kids...Ridley,Payne or Evans.

but LVE is a damn good player.
Im gonna give him a chance before I torch'em...and he may not make it to 19.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Ware played at Troy. Romo played at Eastern Illinois. Too Tall Jones played at Tenn. St. I could go on and on. Eric Williams. Leon Lett. Larry Allen. Walter Payton. Jerry Rice. There are literally a thousand examples of great players that played against "lesser competition".

Players that dominate lesser competition I am ok with. I dont think LVE "dominated" at boise state. Romo was not a "Great" player. And back in the day doesn't count it is not like it is nowadays with recruiting and everything.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeh we learned his team doesn't need him to win a SB that's what I learned about Wentz. Wentz dominated lesser competition. LVE didn't dominate.

LVE did dominate.

 

[Hayseed]

Lawrence came out of Boise State. Last I checked he was doing pretty good for us....LOL

 

[jazzcat22]

Cannon didn't play because of an injury.

right but it still ended up being a wasted pick.

 

[Hayseed]

Urlacher came out of what,... New Mexico State ? He did pretty well too. To say the least.

 

[Hennessy_King]

LVE did dominate.

Against the Run. PFF graded him 6th best LB in the country. I think on another team he may have a high ceiling. I just don't see it with our team. We need playmakers on defense that create turnovers not another person who has tons of tackles. Evans is a playmaker, and can line up anywhere and be effective.

 

[Cap12]

I like at LVE at 19. He could man the middle until Lee goes. Then you move him to Will and push Jaylon to Mike from Sam.

 

[speedkilz88]

Yeh we learned his team doesn't need him to win a SB that's what I learned about Wentz. Wentz dominated lesser competition. LVE didn't dominate.

Let's just make stuff up now.

 

[CATCH17]

Against the Run. PFF graded him 6th best LB in the country. I think on another team he may have a high ceiling. I just don't see it with our team. We need playmakers on defense that create turnovers not another person who has tons of tackles. Evans is a playmaker, and can line up anywhere and be effective.

Vander Esch picked off some passes. He showed the ability to cover in the middle of the field.

 

[Cap12]

Against the Run. PFF graded him 6th best LB in the country. I think on another team he may have a high ceiling. I just don't see it with our team. We need playmakers on defense that create turnovers not another person who has tons of tackles. Evans is a playmaker, and can line up anywhere and be effective.

I'd just like to stop the run this season. Last year we looked pathetic in patches. Evans right now is not an every down player. He was not asked to do much in coverage and he would only likely be effective at Wil (where we have an All-Pro caliber player already). I don't see Evans as a 4-3 Mike... at least at this point in his career (too light and short). I like LVE better in this regard.

 

[Hayseed]

Right now as it sits we have NO Middle linebacker. Jaylon is being moved outside to join Lee where he should have been all along. LVE will fit in nicely in the middle of that defense.