Machota: No more competition at LT

[gtb1943]

He's gotten plenty of practice and live game reps in his career already.

At some point, you are what you are.

There are other players who need reps too that are gated behind the reps he's been getting since he was drafted.

Once again you ignore how raw he was coming in
He is still getting down the basics that most tackles have in place before they hit the NFL
he was ALWAYS a developmental pick and should never have been expected to start right away
He needs to show substantial progress this year
it is clear that physically he has the tools; something Thomas never had so there was no real competition

 

[75boyz]

Team has been spoiled with excellent LT play for the better part of the last 3 decades. Bound to come back to earth eventually.

Good call.
The Smith, Martin, FredBeard, and Smith (Booker still TBD imo) success stories of the oline by the scouts/evaluators were due an eventually letdown.

 

[kskboys]

Once again you ignore how raw he was coming in
He is still getting down the basics that most tackles have in place before they hit the NFL
he was ALWAYS a developmental pick and should never have been expected to start right away
He needs to show substantial progress this year
it is clear that physically he has the tools; something Thomas never had so there was no real competition

Well said.

 

[kskboys]

He's gotten plenty of practice and live game reps in his career already.

At some point, you are what you are.

There are other players who need reps too that are gated behind the reps he's been getting since he was drafted.

100% true. And w/ raw/developmental players, that is around year 3/4. Sometimes longer if injuriews interfere.

Guyton actually played well for a few games before getting hurt again.

 

[Gambit]

Guyton's issue has always pretty much been a lack of reps to make fundamentals routine. When he loses, he's just thinking and slow.

He has to stay healthy.

 

[DarkVader33]

The average I just checked is about 24 million, if he has anywhere near a decent season he's going to ask for something we're all going to hate

He’s not going to be asking for anything. The fifth year option is set by the league.

 

[DarkVader33]

He's gotten plenty of practice and live game reps in his career already.

At some point, you are what you are.

There are other players who need reps too that are gated behind the reps he's been getting since he was drafted.

He only played LT for one year I believe. He was raw and gonna need plenty of time to develop. Maybe he will and maybe he won’t but his story isn’t written yet.

 

[ScotsCowboy]

See, this is my main concern with him. I have no problem with the fact that the guy came into the league raw and needing reps.

What I do have an issue with is that, knowing he needs every snap he can get, he just doesn’t seem to be able or willing to play through injury. The guy gets a bit of pain or discomfort, and he’s out.

A ‘sore elbow’ on Day 2 of padded practice, when there are rumours of him losing his place to a guard? Come on, man…

The most important ability is availability.

A player can have all the physical traits in the world, but without toughness, they aren’t going to count for much. He badly needs to develop a bit of grit - just every bit as much as (if not more than) his technique.

There’s a phrase we sometimes use in these parts: ‘all the gear and no idea’. I hope that isn’t true of Guyton.

 

[Gambit]

See, this is my main concern with him. I have no problem with the fact that the guy came into the league raw and needing reps.

What I do have an issue with is that, knowing he needs every snap he can get, he just doesn’t seem to be able or willing to play through injury. The guy gets a bit of pain or discomfort, and he’s out.

A ‘sore elbow’ on Day 2 of padded practice, when there are rumours of him losing his place to a guard? Come on, man…

The most important ability is availability.

A player can have all the physical traits in the world, but without toughness, they aren’t going to count for much. He badly needs to develop a bit of grit - just every bit as much as (if not more than) his technique.

There’s a phrase we sometimes use in these parts: ‘all the gear and no idea’. I hope that isn’t true of Guyton.

This early in camp ny guess is it was trainer/coaches decision

 

[gtb1943]

See, this is my main concern with him. I have no problem with the fact that the guy came into the league raw and needing reps.

What I do have an issue with is that, knowing he needs every snap he can get, he just doesn’t seem to be able or willing to play through injury. The guy gets a bit of pain or discomfort, and he’s out.

A ‘sore elbow’ on Day 2 of padded practice, when there are rumours of him losing his place to a guard? Come on, man…

The most important ability is availability.

A player can have all the physical traits in the world, but without toughness, they aren’t going to count for much. He badly needs to develop a bit of grit - just every bit as much as (if not more than) his technique.

There’s a phrase we sometimes use in these parts: ‘all the gear and no idea’. I hope that isn’t true of Guyton.

so you keep on going until the injury is serious?
that is stupid

 

[AbeBeta]

He's gotten plenty of practice and live game reps in his career already.

At some point, you are what you are.

There are other players who need reps too that are gated behind the reps he's been getting since he was drafted.

you literally run a discussion board about football. But possess little football knowledge.

I would be angry ... but I love irony

 

[Reality]

you literally run a discussion board about football. But possess little football knowledge.

I would be angry ... but I love irony

That is twice now you've resorted to personal insults when I never did.

I really thought you were better than that.

I stand by my opinion of Guyton as I have since he was drafted.

 

[AbeBeta]

That is twice now you've resorted to personal insults when I never did.

I really thought you were better than that.

I stand by my opinion of Guyton as I have since he was drafted.

That isn't an insult. It is a keen observation.

 

[Reality]

That isn't an insult. It is a keen observation.

As is my negative opinion of Guyton.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Guyton has always been about availability. He’s been dinged over and over with minor stuff every TC and misses so many good reps.

He is the future at RT. I think

 

[DeaconMoss]

If he plays well, of course. However, this is only Guyton's 3rd year. We have 2 more years to see how he turns out.

If he follows the Dak playbook he can get 8-10 more. Mediocre is just fine in Dallas

 

[kskboys]

He is the future at RT. I think

Why? Guyton's issue is not ability. If he cannot harness his ability to play OLT, then why would you think he could play at all?

Plus, the ORT is generally a good run blocker. That is not his strength.

Exactly what makes you say he should be moved?

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Smith, Martin, FredBeard, and Smith (Booker still TBD imo) success stories of the oline by the scouts/evaluators were due an eventually letdown.

That hasn't been proven yet.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[jrumann59]

With Guyton I think it was combination of things, he was raw, he played blindside tackle for a left handed QB in college, I think he was slow picking up the footwork flip he needed to play LT after playing Blindside RT in college, this is just a guess but I think he may have been more athletic than technique sound in college which is common, and he has had injury issues in the Pros. But hey Ronnie Stanley has turned a injury marred career into a lucrative deal with the Ravens.