MacMahon: Cowboys considering cutting Adams

[odog422]

It makes zero sense.

This is not a monetary issue. It is not even a performance one.

He is still capable, and at least as capable, right now, than what we have or are likely to acquire in the draft.

If you are worried about him being a "progress stopper", open up his job in camp or bench him. This is nothing like the Ellis and Owens issues last season where we had exciting talent ready to push out and the veteran was a disruption to boot. Free looks good, but we have nothing else at either tackle spot.

Cutting him would be a completely irresponsible manuever at one of the more crucial positions on the football team.

I fail to see the positive.

Exactly. Completely agree. Cut Flo, put in Free and the backup LT is....who?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

They wont do this unless they have more options other than Doug Free.



Also by cutting Flozell that would just give the Commanders a quality Left Tackle. Something they don't have.

One that D-Ware would absolutely abuse.

Thats the biggest issue for Flo now, and has been for a couple of years, is any good speed rushers.

Flo having to try and block D-Ware in Washington would be a disaster for the poor guy.



I'm torn on this. I really like Flo. Always have. I think he's been a great LT for us and we certainly missed him badly against Minny.

Unless the team is 110% certain they have an option at LT that will be as good, or better, going into this next year then I'd be very careful about getting rid of Flo.

 

[Dodger]

It's not about age, and it's not about money.

This is about confidence. Do the Cowboys feel confident that Free can start at LT and perform as well or better than Adams this coming season?

If they aren't sure, then cutting Adams would be a mistake and a huge risk.

I have no problem with letting go of aging vets and making sure that the young players have an opportunity to play and develop, and believe me, I'm hardly a fan of Adams, but before they let him go, they better be at least reasonably sure that Free can handle the job.

 

[Eskimo]

It makes zero sense.

This is not a monetary issue. It is not even a performance one.

He is still capable, and at least as capable, right now, than what we have or are likely to acquire in the draft.

If you are worried about him being a "progress stopper", open up his job in camp or bench him. This is nothing like the Ellis and Owens issues last season where we had exciting talent ready to push out and the veteran was a disruption to boot. Free looks good, but we have nothing else at either tackle spot.

Cutting him would be a completely irresponsible manuever at one of the more crucial positions on the football team.

I fail to see the positive.

I agree with the above. Colombo wasn't looking so hot last time we saw him so I see no justification for cutting Adams when we may have only one starter at OT (Free).

Bring them both into camp plus whatever draft picks/FA we sign and let them battle it out. It is not like there is a salary cap or some big roster bonus to pay.

 

[Hostile]

where was the part about them considering cutting Flo? I mean i'm sure they're weighing there options but that article had no quotes or even a "a source close to the Cowboys told me" talking about releasing Flo. But if they do I guess Doug Free it is.

That is my question as well.

 

[Chief]

I'm not a big Flozell fan, but this would be a borderline crazy, ballsy move for a team that thinks it can be in the Super Bowl next season.

 

[bbgun]

where was the part about them considering cutting Flo? I mean i'm sure they're weighing there options but that article had no quotes or even a "a source close to the Cowboys told me" talking about releasing Flo. But if they do I guess Doug Free it is.

"Jones said finances would not be considered when determining whether to cut the Cowboys' longest-tenured active player."

Since Jerry didn't outright dismiss the notion of cutting Adams, that means he's at least considering it. The only thing he did dismiss was financial considerations.

 

[TheSport78]

I'd rather cut Colombo over Flozell. At least Flozell could slide over to RT if they really wanted Free at LT. If Jerry isn't taking financial considerations into account, then Flozell's contract over Colombo's should not matter.

 

[burmafrd]

You do not cut a guy until you are sure you have his replacement ready to go when you are talking a position as vital as LT. And even if Free is ready for LT, we still end up with only 2 tackles that can play. You need at LEAST 3; and unless we get one in FA any replacement would be a ROOKIE.

 

[JBond]

Come on, Jerrah.. I applaude you for coming around to a logical way of thinking, but THE only reason why would FLO should be cut is exactly that, finances.

It's not because you can't afford him now, but because you know very well there will likely NOT be a lock out year next year, that there will likely be a TOUGHER salary cap when the new CBA is signed, and that contracts like FLO's are going to be an albatross on the team. You deserves kudos for this way of thinking, but be a bit more honest. If he was making 3 million dollars a year, with very little oringal bonus figure, this wouldn't even be an issue. All you have to say is that finances is only a factor amongst many others and you'd be fine.

By the way, I expect Hamlin and Barber to come into this equation at some point or another.

and, once again, don't discount the possibility of T-new's contract being looked over. His is actually THE biggest problem over the next 3 to 4 years the Cowboys will have to address if the salary cap tightens in the next CBA.

Why would Jerry lie about this? Why do you believe the exact opposite of what Jerry said? Strange.

By the way, almost every expert I have listened to discussing the CBA says there will be a lockout. The union and the owners are worlds apart right now.

 

[JBond]

I think Adams has become vastly underrated by virtue of so many throwing him under the bus for so long, and I like the fact that Jerry acknowledges Flozell's level of play this season was very good.

I also like the fact he seems to be looking ahead and asking himself whether we can expect that same level of production from an aging tackle. It's a legitimate question. Jerry has typically blindly avoided such questions in the past. I like that he's not afraid to ask it now.

Flo is the only capable LT on the team. This pie in the sky stuff about Free is crazy talk. He may eventually be a Ok player but I do not want to trust Romo's blind side to a unproven player. The guy got lit up at LT and had to have massive help when he played RT. I do not understand all the Free love and Flo hate.

 

[Nightshade]

The guy got lit up at LT and had to have massive help when he played RT.

blatantly incorrect information.

He was not lit up and he didn't need massive help.

Actually Free performed very well.

 

[jazzcat22]

If the money is not part of the consideration in keeping him. Then keep him. If he is not what they want or hoped for. Then cut him during the season. He still gets his money, plus his salary. And the Cowboys have their answer, and not wondering they did the right or wrong thing, if they cut him now.

 

[NeonNinja]

I'm not a big Flozell fan, but this would be a borderline crazy, ballsy move for a team that thinks it can be in the Super Bowl next season.

I tend to agree with that. It may be the smart move for the future but it would hurt the team for the upcoming season and one that they feel could be a super bowl run.

 

[Randy White]

Why should dallas be concerned about the year after the uncapped year for a player already under contract? I'm not understanding that point. You keep him and get one more year out of him. If his contract is an issue next year then cut him or make him take a pay cut.

Ahh, because like some others in here, you have tunnel vision. Don't look beyond a certain point and keep missing the big picture.

Cutting FLO right now cost the Cowboys nothing. Zero. Nada. Cutting FLO next year, or two years from now, will probably cost the Cowboys salary cap space.

Because you're not thinking outside the box, one message you guys are missing from Jerrah is that there will probably be a new CBA and a new, tougher, salary cap by this time next year.

To those who think finances is not the reason, think again. There's NO other reason to cut FLO but finances. For all intended purposes he had a solid season last year ( average for a PRO BOWLER, but solid nevertheless ). The Cowboys are a superbowl contender and the last thing they'd want to do is get rid of experience UNLESS that experience will become too costly in the future.

So asking him to come off the bench at the downside of his career is disrespectful but cutting him isnt? That makes no sense.

Makes 100% sense. Get your NFL history book out and learn about Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett, Larry Allen, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, just to name a few. Learn how their original team, out of respect for them, cut them instead of insulting their careers by asking them to be back ups.

FLO has been nothing but a true Cowboys warrior during his career. He's been one of the best tackles that's ever play for the team and that's a mouthful considering the list at that position is impressive. The only thing missing in his resume is a ring, but that's not his fault.

Asking a player like that to be a back up is demeaning and disrespectful. Cut him and let him finish his career as a starter somewhere else, if that's what he wishes for. Make it HIS decisions, not the team's. He's earned it.

 

[Randy White]

Exactly. Completely agree. Cut Flo, put in Free and the backup LT is....who?

Who was the " back up LT " entering last season before Free had his break out games ?

 

[JBond]

blatantly incorrect information.

He was not lit up and he didn't need massive help.

Actually Free performed very well.

Someone posted all of his plays back to back last month. He was pushed around by every guy he went against. We had to keep a TE in to help him on almost half the snaps. The guy is a OK backup. At this point he is not a starting LT for a Super Bowl contending team. If he ends up starting at LT he will get Romo killed and our season will be down the drain.

I'm surprised you consider getting tossed around like a rag doll a good performance. He has quick feet but lacks the strength to contend with the power rushers. He also looks completely lost during blitz's.

Are you completely sure he is the guy to be protecting Romo?

My money is on Flo playing one more season while his real replacement (from the draft or FA) is being groomed.

We will just have to disagree on this one.

 

[Randy White]

Why would Jerry lie about this? Why do you believe the exact opposite of what Jerry said? Strange.

A) he's not lying

B) Because those who've been a Cowboys fan at least since 1989 are used to " Jerrah speak " by now.

By the way, almost every expert I have listened to discussing the CBA says there will be a lockout. The union and the owners are worlds apart right now.

Almost every expert you've listened to is not named Jerry Jones and when it comes to labor issue, there isn't a bigger expert than him. Look, listen, to what Jerrah is saying beyond the words reporters are printing.

There might well be a lockout, it's not 100% guaranteed that there will NOT be one. However, when Jerrah starts throwing out nuggets like this out to the public, it's time to start thinking ahead of the curb.

For almost a year I kept saying that we should wait to see what the Cowboys are going to do this off-season when it comes to contracts like FLO, Hamlin, Barbarian..etc.. What the Cowboys will do with those contracts will be a big indication on how strict the next CBA is going to be. This article is just the first shot across the bow. It wouldn't shock me if others like this follow in the upcoming weeks, after the new NFL year starts on March 5th.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A) he's not lying

B) Because those who've been a Cowboys fan at least since 1989 are used to " Jerrah speak " by now.



Almost every expert you've listened to is not named Jerry Jones and when it comes to labor issue, there isn't a bigger expert than him. Look, listen, to what Jerrah is saying beyond the words reporters are printing.

There might well be a lockout, it's not 100% guaranteed that there will NOT be one. However, when Jerrah starts throwing out nuggets like this out to the public, it's time to start thinking ahead of the curb.

For almost a year I kept saying that we should wait to see what the Cowboys are going to do this off-season when it comes to contracts like FLO, Hamlin, Barbarian..etc.. What the Cowboys will do with those contracts will be a big indication on how strict the next CBA is going to be. This article is just the first shot across the bow. It wouldn't shock me if others like this follow in the upcoming weeks, after the new NFL year starts on March 5th.

The only times Jerry is coy is with trades and the draft. He does not mince words about players contracts.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If true, then bravo.

This team is the worst when it comes to hanging on to players past their prime and production levels.

Many teams waive players left and right but for jerra, who has a big heart, it is like pulling teeth to git him to put players out to pasture.

Clean house, Jerra, get the aged and past-their-primes and the prima donas out of here and get some more youthful blood in there.

Barber has value and Flo has value.
Git something for them while you can.
Brooking and Hamlin I dunno what you'd get from them.
Newman is another who is long in the tooth and next year might be the year he slows down a lot.
Spencer has to step up a lot or say goodbye. Roy has to swallow his pride and contract down the road and be a No. 3 or git out.

Oh, and how can one forgit Patrick Watkins, Mr. Potential?

Don't be afraid to clean house, Jerra. It is a cycle that all teams have to go through. Don't let your heart do your thinking for you, and for oncet use yer brain.